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Would have to see better picks, but looks Starscream would make a halfway decent Terrorsaur repaint. Also, he comes with Inferno's gun for some reason.

Dear Hasbro design team, thank you for unwittingly saving me a whole lot of money with this crappy, gimmick filled, huge abomination of a series/toy line. You give me and plenty of others great reason to give our money to third party developers who actually make TF's that spark our interests.

Yeah, it's sad that the most serious and well-done cartoon we've ever had has to go this direction. (ie. more aimed at kids) I'm really hoping the show can hold its momentum and tone while feathering in a few beast characters. That's going to be tough seeing the toys and characters. I'm heavily invested in these classic characters and voices... won't be the case with a bunch of new monster characters.

I think best case scenario, the show has a few one-off shows where they catch or kill some random baddie Predacon by the end of the show... and any other permanent characters added are along the lines of Grimlock, other dinobots, or insecticons. I wouldn't mind a Ravage, either. But if the show just turns into a sudden animal circus... or medieval festival o' dragons... then I'm going to be the first to call it "jumping the shark" at end of season two.

Here's hoping that's not the case.

Rated X wrote:Beast Hunters seems to be destined to fail. The whole "beast" concept wasnt liked by everyone back in the 1990's. I think bringing it back will slow down the momentum of the TF franchise.

I don't think a single iteration of Transformers has been "liked by everyone," so that's an empty statement. Beast Wars saved the franchise, after all. And let me say, if my kid self from 1996 got transported to the present day, I would gobble Beast Hunters up. I think it'll do fine.

Yeah, I think the toys will sell fine... but I think CHANGING a show from fairly G1 in nature INTO a beast wars show midstream is a huge mistake. That's why I hope it's done very carefully and delicately. I hope the show characters retain their original designs. I think that one thing would help a lot in maintaining the look and style established so far.

I suppose it's at LEAST a step. I think Hasbro/Takara learned you can't put out three movies (or three seasons) of the same show with the same identical toys. At least we're getting SOME sort of change/upgrade. LOL. Not sure why they can't do a nice color swap like the car brothers in RID. It didn't bother me getting that blue flaming car in red, or the police car Prowl in two colors, etc. Those looked great both ways.

Aaaand, I wish they'd just make Bee talk. I think that would keep him from getting sidelined like he has been by Smokescreen. You can only do so much with an R2D2 character. You get an "awww cute"... and then where do you go from there?

holy hell how ugly! pass. hope the show models dont look like this.

Looks good, but picking up characters that have already been released isn't on the top of my list.

Doubledealer93 wrote:holy hell how ugly! pass. hope the show models dont look like this.

I don't think you're allowed a vote on what's ugly... with that sig pic.

gothsaurus wrote:

Doubledealer93 wrote:holy hell how ugly! pass. hope the show models dont look like this.

I don't think you're allowed a vote on what's ugly... with that sig pic.

Oh. Snap.

PrymeStriker wrote:

gothsaurus wrote:

Doubledealer93 wrote:holy hell how ugly! pass. hope the show models dont look like this.

I don't think you're allowed a vote on what's ugly... with that sig pic.

Oh. Snap.

not sure i follow. but from what im gathering you are calling my photo uglier than this starscream toy. and i was not voting on whats ugly, i was stating my opinion on a toy that i think is ugly.

Hey again. I'm TOTALLY just kidding. I actually completely agree with you.

Mind you, I also think that Wheeljack retool is pretty wacky looking, though I picked him up. He looks like a Scooby Doo villain.

PrymeStriker wrote:

gothsaurus wrote:

Doubledealer93 wrote:holy hell how ugly! pass. hope the show models dont look like this.

I don't think you're allowed a vote on what's ugly... with that sig pic.

Oh. Snap.

Need some ice for that burn?

I actually really like his signature. Optimus, Sunstreaker, and Jazz dancing disco style? Cookie for you, sir!

UltraPrimal wrote:Would have to see better picks, but looks Starscream would make a halfway decent Terrorsaur repaint. Also, he comes with Inferno's gun for some reason.

That's what I thought when I first saw him. He'd make a pretty good Prime/Classics Terrorsaur in my eyes. Didn't notice the similarity to Beast Wars Inferno's weapon until you brought it up.

Oh. No, I was talking about his avatar of Dead End's monster face.

gothsaurus wrote:Oh. No, I was talking about his avatar of Dead End's monster face.

That would be his avatar, not his sig pic.

Um, guys? We already saw the animation model for Starscream and Soundwave for the Beast Hunters season. They looked nothing like their Beast Hunters figures and exactly like their 1st/2nd season selves. I don't see why people are getting bent out of shape about it.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Um, guys? We already saw the animation model for Starscream and Soundwave for the Beast Hunters season. They looked nothing like their Beast Hunters figures and exactly like their 1st/2nd season selves. I don't see why people are getting bent out of shape about it.

But that's probably one of the first scenes of the season. They don't need to upgrade right away for no reason.

Hello Prime Acid Storm!

Gearslide wrote:Hello Prime Acid Storm!

i would love the hell out of that repaint. or if it were skywarp or thundercracker

Also, doesn't this mean that Wave 2 is entirely new molds? Not bad considering Wave 1 had 3/4 retools of old molds.

True there. I'd love to get a full line of seekers before we start seeing moar Starscream repaints/retools.

What have we seen stateside? (I tend to get mixed up with all the waves of Hasbro and Takara bots flying past.)

Seems like we've had a couple Starscreams in the main line, but no TC or Skywarp... and Takara has seen Starscream in both sizes, plus AM Skywarp and AM Thundercracker.

Anyone able to confirm or deny?

gothsaurus wrote:True there. I'd love to get a full line of seekers before we start seeing moar Starscream repaints/retools.

What have we seen stateside? (I tend to get mixed up with all the waves of Hasbro and Takara bots flying past.)

Seems like we've had a couple Starscreams in the main line, but no TC or Skywarp... and Takara has seen Starscream in both sizes, plus AM Skywarp and AM Thundercracker.

Anyone able to confirm or deny?

Name wise, we've only seen Starscream in the Hasbro line. However, "Dark Energon Starscream" highly resembles Skywarp.

gothsaurus wrote:Seems like we've had a couple Starscreams in the main line, but no TC or Skywarp... and Takara has seen Starscream in both sizes, plus AM Skywarp and AM Thundercracker.

Anyone able to confirm or deny?

No stateside Thundercrackers or Skywarps; that's all in Japan. Here in the U.S, we have:

* First Edition Deluxe Starscream
* Cyberverse Commander Starscream
* PRiD Voyager Starscream
* Dark Energon Deluxe Starscream
* Beast Hunters Deluxe Starscream

Boy, based on this thread, I feel like adding Beast Hunters to the TFWiki "Ruined FOREVER" page.

It's like the early-to-mid 90's alt.toys.transfomers all over again. I'm surprised no one's yelled "TRUKK NOT MUNKY" or something derogatory to that ring yet.

As for this Starscream, if he gets that new body in the show, SOLD!

He looks cool and I like it more than his normal design.

But why those colors :/

It look so much better with show accurate colors

Hmm. I don't watch the cartoon so accuracy is not really important to me, as I'd probably use them as different characters anyway (I have my own personal continuity that changes according to my collection). Smokescreen looks good, and I love the crossbow, it's really nice to see Transformers returning to the days where all the characters have their own, universally compatible weapons. Ripclaw is meh, I need to see what he turns into before I pass judgement. Bulkhead looks cool, especially his buzzsaw weapon. Starscream looks like he'd make a great drone or army builder, I don't know why, he just has a cool, mass produced look about him.

In honesty though I wouldn't buy any of them straight from the store, like I did with Unit 01-sorry, Soundwave, who really grabbed me. I'm probably gonna conserve my cash and get some more Figmas or the Soul of Chogokin SPEC Evangelion figures.

Also, who else would like to see a reboot of the Transformers Revoltech line? I demand a Revoltech Devastator!