Biddybot wrote:ANYHOO, back on topic… Considering how many poor human bystanders must’ve been smashed, crushed, maimed, and otherwise killed and injured by assorted Transformer activities over the course of the three movies, any guess on the number of new human support groups and hate sites and lawsuits pending which are going to spring up after the end of DOTM? Seriously, there have got to be tons of grieving family members and loved ones and mangled survivors out there by now. Yes, some of it could even be somewhat justified—sorry, your husband was collateral damage incurred during some necessary fighting to protect the freedom of our planet—but there was plenty of questionable destruction going on even before the Transformers’ existence on Earth became common knowledge. Will the human survivors of such escapades and sympathetic supporters form MART chapters—Mothers Against Rampaging Transformers? Do people picket against the Autobots? Write nasty letters to their governments? Demand retribution? I mean, I love fantasizing about having Autobots running about our planet right now for real. I might not feel quite so warm and cuddly towards them if one of them accidently smushed my kid while punching out a Decepticon.
See, I'm getting various spontaneous ideas popping inside my head, thinking of the possibilities of the paths TF4's plot might take. Let's pretend that Micheal Bay won't be returning to the TF franchise, and we get another, darker, director for the fourth installment.
Things might have pretty much gone to SNOOFENGLOOP on Earth after DOTM--as you said, many lives have been lost, and the presence of Cybertronians on Earth has brought us nothing but trouble. With hate towards TF's continually escalating, the UN might put pressure on the Autobots to bring their war with the 'Cons elsewhere, just like in ROTF, except this time they're threatening with guns in their hands. In a worst case scenario, clandestine government agencies might even launch covert attacks on both Autobots and 'Cons in order to just wipe them off the planet once and for all. Unlikely, but you never know.
And then there's vigilantes who might even try targeting random TF's to avenge the deaths of their loved ones. As DOTM has shown, a well-placed bomb on the foot and sniping the eyes is actually good enough to take down a car-sized Cybertronian before finishing them off, so it doesn't necessarily take a bombing raid to kill them.
OP would be caught between a rock and a hard place, with Autobots pressuring him to leave, and Decepticons maybe even attempting a truce to fight back against the humans, perhaps led by a charismatic, newly arrived Decepticon leader named Galvatron...
In short, I see the Autobots having to fight for survival against the very people [humans] they're trying to protect, while the Decepticons are offering an increasingly tempting truce or even armistice that might finally put to rest the eons-long feud between them. But at the cost of eradicating the humans.
Naturally, Sam and Bee would be caught in between like a "bromance" version of Romeo and Juliet. Or would they pair a different couple, since Shia said he wouldn't return?
Biddybot wrote:Another thing to think about and something I need help with… I know some of you fans have come up with quasi-plausible timelines linking the three movies together, so please give this a shot: IF Megatron’s and Sentinel’s scheme had gone exactly as planned, IF the Ark had gotten away cleanly and Megatron had been able to sneak off whenever and rendezvoused with Sentinel wherever it was they were planning to meet, what time era then would it have been when they arrived on Earth? This goes back to RhA’s point that Sentinel might’ve been pissed just by watching his former Autobot brothers and humans amiably interact. It makes me wonder about what level of humanity Sentinel and Megatron were originally expecting to enslave, about whether they were counting on us having evolved into nothing beyond a fearful, easily exploited, grunting tribal society and whether it mightn’t have been something of a shock to Sentinel’s senses to ‘wake up’ and discover that—gads!—humans had actually advanced far beyond expectations and developed various technologies to boot, some of them capable of harming Transformers! In short, were the slaves they needed only going to be required to move the Cybertronian equivalent of pyramid rocks or would a slave force of lesser—or greater—intellect do? This is one of those ‘what if?’ scenarios I’m not real sure of, and thinking about any sort of timelines to do with Transformers just makes my head hurt.
That's a very interesting point.
Personally though, I think the very basis of DOTM's plot is rather flawed. In the field of construction, size and strength are the most important aspects. Given that humans are far weaker and less durable than Cybertronians, how on Earth do they plan on using them to reconstruct Cybertron? It's like getting a bunch of trained gerbils to build your house. No matter how many of them there are, they'll never do it as fast or efficiently as larger, stronger construction workers.
Honestly, I think they should have just stuck to asking for all of Earth's resources. That would have made much more sense. Yes, having them try to enslave the human race puts more at stake in the story, but at the cost of destroying credibility.
To put more at stake, instead of enslaving human, just have them lie to the UN about only taking a reasonable amount of resource in exchange for the Autobots' exile. In truth, they'd need every ounce of the Earth's resource to rebuild Cybertron, leaving our already ailing planet dead and dry, and obviously, unfit for humans to live in.
I mean, have you seen the size of that planet relative to Earth?