Biddybot wrote:SKYWARPED 128: Not off-topic at all! Anti-Transformers sentiment amongst humans is what this threads about, after all.
I too noted that Lennox referred to the Autobots as ‘things’ when speaking to Mearing during that one scene and found it not so much jarring myself as just kind of sad. Sad, because I quite like Lennox as a character—I wish they’d done more with him—and because I believe that it reveals that, despite all his experience with the Autobots, he just doesn’t have the imagination and/or knowledge to overcome his subconscious human egocentricity and fully accept that intelligent beings could evolve and exist within radically different bodily designs than his own. I suspect that most humans would be like that if Cybertronians really did live amongst us…not intending to be demeaning with their word choices, perhaps, but still… It’s hard enough for many of us to accept strangers even if they’re just other people made of flesh and blood, let alone if they were people made of alien amorphous alloys.
The phrase ‘that thing’ in reference to Sentinel didn’t bug me as much since its use there seemed deliberately (and understandably) demeaning. It’s something I’ve heard applied to our own worst mass murderers and depraved thrill killers often enough—“monster”, “sub-human”, “thing”—in an attempt to divorce them from humanity, so I suppose you could argue that in a weird way Sentinel was being granted equal status with our own species’ worst at that particular moment!
Like you, though, I would have preferred hearing Sentinel referred to as “that bastard” or, better yet, “that backstabbing bastard”. And I really do wish that Lennox had said that “these people run on energon”.
Yeah, come to think of it, it's pretty sad that after all they've been through, Lennox still regards them as less than equals.
That said, I do wonder if it's just a product of bad or just lazy dialogue.
As for Sentinel, you've got a good point there. It's just that the choice of the word seems awkward. IMO, words like "monster" or "thing" or even "animal" are used more by the printed media like newspapers or prose in novels to depict inhumane people. When spoken, people tend to use curse words or derogatory terms more often, such as calling the German soldiers in WWII "Nazi motherf@#kers" or "those f%#king Kr@uts."
If the humans had made a derogatory term for Cybertronians, it might be more natural to use it to refer to Sentinel that way.
Either way, calling Sentinel "thing" just doesn't sound right to the ears.