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I'm not the biggest fan of Superman, but I do think he's always got enough pull to make a movie work. The problem is, at least as I see it, how do you present a believable enemy to a guy who's basically unbeatable?
As for the Justice League, I've heard they can't use Super/Batman in it becuase of the film rights being scattered among different film studios. What I've heard on the JL movie is that they'd basically try to make it with second tier characters, and I'm not sure how well that will play Peoria. The good thing about team movies is that there's always a bunch of people to choose from, but without the main ones, how good will it really be?

Dagon wrote:I'm not the biggest fan of Superman, but I do think he's always got enough pull to make a movie work. The problem is, at least as I see it, how do you present a believable enemy to a guy who's basically unbeatable?

Easily: He's not unbeatable. Just very, very difficult to beat. Darkseid, Mongul, and Doomsday have all handled him in a straight-up fight. All you really need is to give his opponents a subtle boost in power and we got a villain. Hell, give Luthor his suit (He IS basically Evil Tony Stark) and even he could believably hold his own against Superman.

Dagon wrote:As for the Justice League, I've heard they can't use Super/Batman in it becuase of the film rights being scattered among different film studios. What I've heard on the JL movie is that they'd basically try to make it with second tier characters, and I'm not sure how well that will play Peoria. The good thing about team movies is that there's always a bunch of people to choose from, but without the main ones, how good will it really be?

Well, it's the same studio, for both series. Even so, Warner Bros. owns the rights. (Not to mention DC itself)

Shadowman wrote:

Dagon wrote:I'm not the biggest fan of Superman, but I do think he's always got enough pull to make a movie work. The problem is, at least as I see it, how do you present a believable enemy to a guy who's basically unbeatable?

Easily: He's not unbeatable. Just very, very difficult to beat. Darkseid, Mongul, and Doomsday have all handled him in a straight-up fight. All you really need is to give his opponents a subtle boost in power and we got a villain. Hell, give Luthor his suit (He IS basically Evil Tony Stark) and even he could believably hold his own against Superman.

Dagon wrote:As for the Justice League, I've heard they can't use Super/Batman in it becuase of the film rights being scattered among different film studios. What I've heard on the JL movie is that they'd basically try to make it with second tier characters, and I'm not sure how well that will play Peoria. The good thing about team movies is that there's always a bunch of people to choose from, but without the main ones, how good will it really be?

Well, it's the same studio, for both series. Even so, Warner Bros. owns the rights. (Not to mention DC itself)

while I would rather see doomsday, darkseid would be awesome as well.

what about bizzaro?

Well, the teaser trailer has been released. Of course, it doesn't show a lot, but it got me hyped up.

Edit: I tried embedding the video but I'll admit I have no idea how to embed a YouTube video here.

OptiMagnus wrote:Well, the teaser trailer has been released. Of course, it doesn't show a lot, but it got me hyped up.

Edit: I tried embedding the video but I'll admit I have no idea how to embed a YouTube video here.

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Geez ... for over half that trailer I was thinking "Oh hey, an Aquaman movie!"

Burn wrote:Geez ... for over half that trailer I was thinking "Oh hey, an Aquaman movie!"

I was actually thinking it was a Deadliest Catch Movie, when I saw Clark crab fishing.

"Hey, we should make Superman darker!"
"Great idea, let's use a dusk palette!"


Is what I thought during the trailer. Serious amounts of grey in there.

That was a good ass trailer. Dude, I am stoked with a capital STOKED! But I agree with everyone here. We just need good villains for Superman so that it shows that Superman is limited in some ways. Yeah Lex Luthor could throw in some kryptonite or use a red sunlight machine. And there could also be Darkseid or Zod, someone to match his strength. But how about Felix Faust or Circe to show that Supermans third weekness (but they'll probably save them for a Wonder Woman movie or something). Because not everybody knows about magic, or even the red sunlight. And does anybody really see how he could beat someone who could just throw spells at him left and right? That's why I think it would be interesting.

Can't really gather much from the trailer, but it does seem to address the question of "Who are you, Superman?", so that's a good start.