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Stuartmaximus wrote:it canny be any worse than that Routh pish! + Chris Nolan(The Dark Knight Rises) is helping direct it, so it canny be all that bad

Superman IV: The Quest for Peace is far, far worse than Returns ever was. They're going to have to make an actual effort in order to surpass that in terms of Godawfulness.

Shadowman wrote:Superman IV: The Quest for Peace is far, far worse than Returns ever was. They're going to have to make an actual effort in order to surpass that in terms of Godawfulness.

Even if they canned the Man of Steel project, it'd still be a better movie than Superman 4.

I'm the type of cat that if I see a full trailer to a huge movie such as this I then refrain from looking at any other trailers including TV until film release, pretty simple. I went to the movies 2 weeks ago and saw the full trailer and I was just .

After that my feelings were again re-inforced, this will either finally save and resurrect the movie franchise or leave it for dead. I for one have Super high hopes and cannot wait for this flick...'nuff said!

Like many I'm hoping for a great film.
This film is going to be make or break for the Big Blue Boy Scout after Returns disappointed.
Snyder's track record is just about as spotty.

Lots at stake for Warner Brothers with this.

captain craig wrote:Like many I'm hoping for a great film.
This film is going to be make or break for the Big Blue Boy Scout after Returns disappointed.
Snyder's track record is just about as spotty.

Lots at stake for Warner Brothers with this.

The movies so far have hurt Superman's reputation about as much as Batman and Robin hurt Batman's. Even if the movie bombs, Superman will emerge perfectly fine. One bad movie isn't going to kill the most iconic superhero of all time.

But it will kill off any hopes for a Justice League movie.

Burn wrote:But it will kill off any hopes for a Justice League movie.

Is the possibility of a JLA movie dependent solely on Superman? If not, then I have to point out that Green Lantern already bombed pretty hard. Never mind that Nolan is on record saying he doesn't want to do Justice League, and the only real news we've heard is rumors and how writers and directors can't seem to stay on the project.

It's because they have no clear direction on how to do it.

The last plan I heard was to go a different route than Marvel and use other medium to "introduce" characters, ie cartoons and TV shows.

They've got Arrow up and running, which is actually a pretty damn good show.

So you've got three main characters already introduced.

But if Superman bombs ... well then why bother with JLA? I'm glad Nolan wants nothing to do with it, I'm not a fan of his Batman stuff.

DC/WB really should question whether they need to do a JLA movie and if so, whether it actually requires the characters to be set up. Everybody knows Batman. Everybody knows Superman. Heck, everybody would know Wonder Woman. There's your Trinity that can draw people in.

Burn wrote:It's because they have no clear direction on how to do it.

The last plan I heard was to go a different route than Marvel and use other medium to "introduce" characters, ie cartoons and TV shows.

They've got Arrow up and running, which is actually a pretty damn good show.

So you've got three main characters already introduced.

But if Superman bombs ... well then why bother with JLA? I'm glad Nolan wants nothing to do with it, I'm not a fan of his Batman stuff.

DC/WB really should question whether they need to do a JLA movie and if so, whether it actually requires the characters to be set up. Everybody knows Batman. Everybody knows Superman. Heck, everybody would know Wonder Woman. There's your Trinity that can draw people in.

The problem with that is that while Arrow could easily (And awesomely!) cross over with Nolanverse Batman, or something similar to Nolanverse Batman, neither of them could do the same with Superman since both Arrow and Dark Knight are in strict no-Superpowers universes.

Has that actually been stated though?

Could be they just haven't crossed paths yet.