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Re: "What do you expect, Shakespeare?"

Postby SlyTF1 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:45 pm

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vegetacron wrote:Yeah, i used to think that way, but its like...i dunno...perspective?

Yes, the movies, as a whole, we're terrible, but you kinda just gotta pick out what you liked about them and move on.


That's just it. I can't find a single redeeming feature in ANY of them. Not one. There was nothing I liked about them. At best, I may have been indifferent to a few elements.


Oh come on, that's not really fair.

The introduction of Blackout should have left even the most stubborn Geewuner giddy as a gorilla in a banana factory.

The city battle at the end of the first movie was more suspenseful than the last 2 movies combined.


...no it wasn't. It was just Sam running from Megatron! At least in ROTF and DOTM they had some moments where they where actually fighting back.


There was a sense of dread and uncertainty during the city battle because it seemed like the Decepticons actually had a chance to win.

I never believed to be the case in ROTF nor DOTM.

Once Optimus showed up, you knew the battle was over.


The only time I thought they where going to win was in ROTF. I thought they where going to bring back Optimus in the next movie.
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Re: "What do you expect, Shakespeare?"

Postby No Death for Prowl » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:55 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:
No Death for Prowl wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
No Death for Prowl wrote:
Master Renegade wrote:
vegetacron wrote:Yeah, i used to think that way, but its like...i dunno...perspective?

Yes, the movies, as a whole, we're terrible, but you kinda just gotta pick out what you liked about them and move on.


That's just it. I can't find a single redeeming feature in ANY of them. Not one. There was nothing I liked about them. At best, I may have been indifferent to a few elements.


Oh come on, that's not really fair.

The introduction of Blackout should have left even the most stubborn Geewuner giddy as a gorilla in a banana factory.

The city battle at the end of the first movie was more suspenseful than the last 2 movies combined.


...no it wasn't. It was just Sam running from Megatron! At least in ROTF and DOTM they had some moments where they where actually fighting back.


There was a sense of dread and uncertainty during the city battle because it seemed like the Decepticons actually had a chance to win.

I never believed to be the case in ROTF nor DOTM.

Once Optimus showed up, you knew the battle was over.


The only time I thought they where going to win was in ROTF. I thought they where going to bring back Optimus in the next movie.


I agree that's what should have occurred to end the movie with a bad guys' momentary victory, a la The Empire Strikes Back.

But almost as soon as Prime died, they were looking (and found) a way to revive him.

His (short) death was never allowed to make much of an impact.
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Re: "What do you expect, Shakespeare?"

Postby SlyTF1 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:57 pm

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No Death for Prowl wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
No Death for Prowl wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
No Death for Prowl wrote:
Master Renegade wrote:
vegetacron wrote:Yeah, i used to think that way, but its like...i dunno...perspective?

Yes, the movies, as a whole, we're terrible, but you kinda just gotta pick out what you liked about them and move on.


That's just it. I can't find a single redeeming feature in ANY of them. Not one. There was nothing I liked about them. At best, I may have been indifferent to a few elements.


Oh come on, that's not really fair.

The introduction of Blackout should have left even the most stubborn Geewuner giddy as a gorilla in a banana factory.

The city battle at the end of the first movie was more suspenseful than the last 2 movies combined.


...no it wasn't. It was just Sam running from Megatron! At least in ROTF and DOTM they had some moments where they where actually fighting back.


There was a sense of dread and uncertainty during the city battle because it seemed like the Decepticons actually had a chance to win.

I never believed to be the case in ROTF nor DOTM.

Once Optimus showed up, you knew the battle was over.


The only time I thought they where going to win was in ROTF. I thought they where going to bring back Optimus in the next movie.


I agree that's what should have occurred to end the movie with a bad guys' momentary victory, a la The Empire Strikes Back.

But almost as soon as Prime died, they were looking (and found) a way to revive him.

His (short) death was never allowed to make much of an impact.


It still surprised me. I thought I had read every spoiler on the internet, until that happened.
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Re: "What do you expect, Shakespeare?"

Postby Master Renegade » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:46 pm

No Death for Prowl wrote:
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vegetacron wrote:Yeah, i used to think that way, but its like...i dunno...perspective?

Yes, the movies, as a whole, we're terrible, but you kinda just gotta pick out what you liked about them and move on.


That's just it. I can't find a single redeeming feature in ANY of them. Not one. There was nothing I liked about them. At best, I may have been indifferent to a few elements.


Oh come on, that's not really fair.


It's perfectly fair. It's exactly how I feel. I cannot find a single good point about ANY of these movies.

Now, if you really want to insist that I'm being unfair, I could easily turn that around on you and your opinions.
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Re: "What do you expect, Shakespeare?"

Postby SlyTF1 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:55 pm

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Master Renegade wrote:
No Death for Prowl wrote:
Master Renegade wrote:
vegetacron wrote:Yeah, i used to think that way, but its like...i dunno...perspective?

Yes, the movies, as a whole, we're terrible, but you kinda just gotta pick out what you liked about them and move on.


That's just it. I can't find a single redeeming feature in ANY of them. Not one. There was nothing I liked about them. At best, I may have been indifferent to a few elements.


Oh come on, that's not really fair.


It's perfectly fair. It's exactly how I feel. I cannot find a single good point about ANY of these movies.

Now, if you really want to insist that I'm being unfair, I could easily turn that around on you and your opinions.


So the CG wasn't good? The scores weren't totally freaking awesome?
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Re: "What do you expect, Shakespeare?"

Postby Master Renegade » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:33 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:
Master Renegade wrote:It's perfectly fair. It's exactly how I feel. I cannot find a single good point about ANY of these movies.

Now, if you really want to insist that I'm being unfair, I could easily turn that around on you and your opinions.


So the CG wasn't good? The scores weren't totally freaking awesome?


I hated the designs of the robots, so I wasn't thrilled to see them in CGI. At best I was indifferent to the CGI because the designs were so shitty.

The music wasn't the kind of music I like, so again, indifferent. That's the best I can say about ANY aspect of the movies.
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Re: "What do you expect, Shakespeare?"

Postby Just Negare » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:40 am

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I work hard for my money, doing things that would have most people vomitting their ring out on the floor, and I'm guessing the vaste majority of people going to see TF, or any movie, work hard too. Now, I think that means the directors owe us something, seeing its our money that lines the studios' pockets and allows them to fund these director's visions.

I loved teh first one, detested the second and was pleasantly surpised, and tolerated the third. I don't think its that much to ask that we get given a decent movie, with decent plot, casting, action et al.

I wasn't expecting anything grand, but I was expecting something at least half way decent. We as fans, and even as members of the TF ignorant public, shouldn't have to tolerate the kind of crap ROTF dealt us.

Sometimes I think people are so in love with the idea of a LA TF movie they dare speak against the fails. Of course, doesn't matter much now unless they give us a fourth.
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Re: "What do you expect, Shakespeare?"

Postby shamone » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:20 am

SlyTF1 wrote:
Master Renegade wrote:
No Death for Prowl wrote:
Master Renegade wrote:
vegetacron wrote:Yeah, i used to think that way, but its like...i dunno...perspective?

Yes, the movies, as a whole, we're terrible, but you kinda just gotta pick out what you liked about them and move on.


That's just it. I can't find a single redeeming feature in ANY of them. Not one. There was nothing I liked about them. At best, I may have been indifferent to a few elements.


Oh come on, that's not really fair.


It's perfectly fair. It's exactly how I feel. I cannot find a single good point about ANY of these movies.

Now, if you really want to insist that I'm being unfair, I could easily turn that around on you and your opinions.


So the CG wasn't good? The scores weren't totally freaking awesome?


he said he didnt lik eany part of the movie.

So be it, does it affect your view thats its the greatest movie ever made - no
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Re: "What do you expect, Shakespeare?"

Postby SlyTF1 » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:24 am

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Just Negare wrote:I wasn't expecting anything grand, but I was expecting something at least half way decent. We as fans, and even as members of the TF ignorant public, shouldn't have to tolerate the kind of crap ROTF dealt us.


Too bad a lot of fans don't share your opinion that ROTF was crap.
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Re: "What do you expect, Shakespeare?"

Postby shamone » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:27 am

SlyTF1 wrote:
Just Negare wrote:I wasn't expecting anything grand, but I was expecting something at least half way decent. We as fans, and even as members of the TF ignorant public, shouldn't have to tolerate the kind of crap ROTF dealt us.


Too bad a lot of fans don't share your opinion that ROTF was crap.


maybe he doesnt care what others think

maybe he isnt hung up by that, he is comfortable with his own opinion and not seeking validation

you like the movie, love it in fact, we get that, it doesnt mean that your opinion is the sole worthy one true believer view for everyone else
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Re: "What do you expect, Shakespeare?"

Postby SlyTF1 » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:30 am

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shamone wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
Just Negare wrote:I wasn't expecting anything grand, but I was expecting something at least half way decent. We as fans, and even as members of the TF ignorant public, shouldn't have to tolerate the kind of crap ROTF dealt us.


Too bad a lot of fans don't share your opinion that ROTF was crap.


maybe he doesnt care what others think

maybe he isnt hung up by that, he is comfortable with his own opinion and not seeking validation

you like the movie, love it in fact, we get that, it doesnt mean that your opinion is the sole worthy one true believer view for everyone else


Neither is his. And that's the point I was making.
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Re: "What do you expect, Shakespeare?"

Postby shamone » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:34 am

SlyTF1 wrote:
shamone wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
Just Negare wrote:I wasn't expecting anything grand, but I was expecting something at least half way decent. We as fans, and even as members of the TF ignorant public, shouldn't have to tolerate the kind of crap ROTF dealt us.


Too bad a lot of fans don't share your opinion that ROTF was crap.


maybe he doesnt care what others think

maybe he isnt hung up by that, he is comfortable with his own opinion and not seeking validation

you like the movie, love it in fact, we get that, it doesnt mean that your opinion is the sole worthy one true believer view for everyone else


Neither is his. And that's the point I was making.


he was speaking for those who didnt like it

not for all fans
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