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1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Chaoslock » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:43 pm

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Chaoslock wrote:That's no homage, that's blasphemy.
Overlord was a:
- baseformer
- triplechanger (quintiple if we count the separate vehicle modes as two and the united vehicle mode as another)
- double powermaster
- duocon
- bada$$

now, that mold is not even close. Plus, he didn't even nearby sport swords - he has a BFG and a plane that could be used as shield. Where's the homage in that chewed piece of bubblegum?
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby phase » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:26 pm

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phase wrote:Really, I'm fine with this. At least the tank looks nice, minus the red and purple guns. An Overlord is an Overlord. The robot is a little odd. I would've changed the swords into guns, like Generations Blurr did.

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Yeah I will give it that and that's all I will give it. But after looking at the head sculpt some more what's up with the large looking lower lip? I just doesn't look right along with the rest of the bot mode.

And can someone please educate me on Fun Pub and their role and reason for exsistance...thanks! :VEHI:


The lip is because of his Last Stand of the Wreckers design, which had a very Greco-Roman shape.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Flashwave » Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:49 pm

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Personally, I like the tank, The Basefomer is extremely cool, don;t get me wrong, but I wasn't alive when he was out, so I have no bias.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby phase » Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:50 pm

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With that tank barrel, it'll be hard to get a headshot. *rimshot*
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Flux Convoy » Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:10 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And I find it so amazing that so much negative input stems from plain simple ignorance... :-$

I'm not amazed or amused by it any more. What astounds me is the laziness of others, to not know or research what they're talking about. To rail against something and be completely ignorant of what it is you're talking about is, well, ignorant.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Overcracker » Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:01 pm

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Flux Convoy wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And I find it so amazing that so much negative input stems from plain simple ignorance... :-$

I'm not amazed or amused by it any more. What astounds me is the laziness of others, to not know or research what they're talking about. To rail against something and be completely ignorant of what it is you're talking about is, well, ignorant.
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Agreed. So much hate without even knowing... So sad.

Anyway, I must say I don't particularly like the mold, but give the available tanks I'd say its the best one they could have chosen.

Still want to see the rest of the figures though.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Rated X » Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:19 pm

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cannonfodder4000 wrote:
scypris115 wrote:Thats your personal prefrence... I dont like any characters that are not in the movies so yes hes crap to me.. and last time I checked, Takaras version of wheeljack was released.. I bought him too so.. yeah


Who cares if he wasn't in the movies? it's Bludgeon, he's a skeleton samurai tank man, if you don't like that then I sorta feel sorry for you. :oops:
Also are you saying that Que is better than Bludgeon? I think you are. >:oP


Yeah I am... so what if I like Que (Wheeljack) better then Bludgeon thats not the point..I could care less for Bludgeon or for that matter this overpriced repaint... yeah Im not gonna pay for this when I can get the original mold for a lower price, Im not much of a repaint fan, a little bit..If you like him thats fine but I think they should of used a different mold.. why use a movieverse character? It just seems odd to me..



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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:41 pm

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Nekoman wrote:Hey Sabrblade, thanks for the reminder, but I remember the dude from Masterforce, and that doesn't look much to me like any samurai I've ever seen. I see your point, but I think that's trying too hard to defend this one.
It's more than his looks but his personality. In Masterforce, Giga was Overlord, Overlord was Giga (until the last or so episode when Devil Z granted Overlord his own life, but he's less regarded than Giga's Overlord). The guy practically lived and breathed the Bushido lifestyle. He held a deep respect for Ginrai as both a true warrior and an honorable adversary. He held a devout loyalty to Devil Z even if his master's actions defied Giga's own code of ethics. He didn't need to look like a stereotype to fit the role. Giga-sama was definitely a samurai through and through.

Now, I will admit that Universe Silverbolt would have probably been the better choice at capturing the character's physical appearance, but the ROTF Bludgeon mold fits in a different way: It capture's character's essential persona and realizes it into a physical form.



OH, SNAP! I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING! :shock:

New idea: What if they are doing, as many postulate, this mold to represent just the Gigatank half, and then doing Universe Silverbolt to represent the Megajet half as Classics Slipstream? I mean, think about it. Slipstream's color scheme was based off of Overlord anyway, and I don't see where it states that she would HAVE to be another use of the Seeker mold. So, what if, for this story, they are trying to pass off the two vehicles as separate characters (Gigatron and Slipsteam) instead of as one being known as Overlord? That would explain why they aren't calling this toy "Overlord" to begin with, and gives an in-universe reason for it too.

Though, I'm NOT saying that I definitely think that this is what they're doing, but it could be a possibility.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby El Duque » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:12 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:OH, SNAP! I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING!

New idea: What if they are doing, as many postulate, this mold to represent just the Gigatank half, and then doing Universe Silverbolt to represent the Megajet half as Classics Slipstream? I mean, think about it. Slipstream's color scheme was based off of Overlord anyway, and I don't see where it states that she would HAVE to be another use of the Seek er mold. So, what if, for this story, they are trying to pass off the two vehicles as separate characters (Gigatron and Slipsteam) instead of as one being known as Overlord? That would explain why they aren't calling this toy "Overlord" to begin with, and gives an in-universe reason for it too.

Though, I'm NOT saying that I definitely think that this is what they're doing, but it could be a possibility.


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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby datguy86 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:32 pm

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Since I seemed to have been pegged for ignorance due to not referencing Gigatron's Masterforce origins as opposed to the stated comparison between his classically European head and his excessively eastern body; please allow me to clarify a point of the original - the head and body are aesthetically mismatched. Regardless of Overlord's origins, this toy looks like Frank the Samurai. Is it still a solid-looking toy? Oh yes. The Bludgeon and Banzaitron toys are great and aesthetically sound. But the look of Gigatron's toy isn't in-character with itself as a toy. This doesn't mean it's bad; it just means it's odd.

Of course, this could be a totally moot point. Gigatron could very well be characterized as Frank the Samurai in the Classics storyline.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby scypris115 » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:31 am

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scypris115 wrote:
Rated X wrote:
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scypris115 wrote:Thats your personal prefrence... I dont like any characters that are not in the movies so yes hes crap to me.. and last time I checked, Takaras version of wheeljack was released.. I bought him too so.. yeah


Who cares if he wasn't in the movies? it's Bludgeon, he's a skeleton samurai tank man, if you don't like that then I sorta feel sorry for you. :oops:
Also are you saying that Que is better than Bludgeon? I think you are. >:oP


Yeah I am... so what if I like Que (Wheeljack) better then Bludgeon thats not the point..I could care less for Bludgeon or for that matter this overpriced repaint... yeah Im not gonna pay for this when I can get the original mold for a lower price, Im not much of a repaint fan, a little bit..If you like him thats fine but I think they should of used a different mold.. why use a movieverse character? It just seems odd to me..



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wow you're real mature.. do me a favor and go annoy somebody else troll.. =;
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby NOS » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:40 am

What about DotM Shockwave?

I think that could have made a fairly decent Overlord.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:41 am

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NOS wrote:What about DotM Shockwave?

I think that could have made a fairly decent Overlord.

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He's off limits. He's a movie character and thus cannot be used.

Besides, he doesn't fit the Classics aesthetic anyway.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby NOS » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:13 am

Well, with so many molds being off limits and the inability to remold more then just the head perhaps they should have held off on reinventing a character who had such a pivotal role from G1. I admire their want to add more characters to the classics verse / neo-G1 lineup but I just don't think this mold truly does the character justice.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Dead Metal » Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:14 am

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Seriously, the more I look at that head, the more I don't want it.
The face is super long, his eyes are horrible looking slits and too far up.

I still kinda want it, but I would want a different head.

So lets see, I want the swords to be replaced by HR, and I want a different head....
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby dinogeist » Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:29 am

Dead Metal wrote:Seriously, the more I look at that head, the more I don't want it.
The face is super long, his eyes are horrible looking slits and too far up.

I still kinda want it, but I would want a different head.

So lets see, I want the swords to be replaced by HR, and I want a different head....


I think the head looks more like 1986 Galvatron's than 1988 Overlord's robot head. that's why if i ever buy this toy,i'll pretend it's a classics styled galvatron in the voyager size scale.

I think the HFTD Bludgeon mold works better for G-1 galvatron. because the Comics & cartoons always tried to give G-1 Galvatron a samurai art design.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby RhA » Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:01 am

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Tidalwavex wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:Seriously, the more I look at that head, the more I don't want it.
The face is super long, his eyes are horrible looking slits and too far up.

I still kinda want it, but I would want a different head.

So lets see, I want the swords to be replaced by HR, and I want a different head....


I think the head looks more like 1986 Galvatron's than 1988 Overlord's robot head. that's why if i ever buy this toy,i'll pretend it's a classics styled galvatron in the voyager size scale.

I think the HFTD Bludgeon mold works better for G-1 galvatron. because the Comics & cartoons always tried to give G-1 Galvatron a samurai art design.


And here I was confusing Galvatron´s design with Joe the fisherman.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby cannonfodder4000 » Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:56 am

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scypris115 wrote:
Rated X wrote:
scypris115 wrote:
Rated X wrote:
scypris115 wrote:
cannonfodder4000 wrote:
scypris115 wrote:Thats your personal prefrence... I dont like any characters that are not in the movies so yes hes crap to me.. and last time I checked, Takaras version of wheeljack was released.. I bought him too so.. yeah


Who cares if he wasn't in the movies? it's Bludgeon, he's a skeleton samurai tank man, if you don't like that then I sorta feel sorry for you. :oops:
Also are you saying that Que is better than Bludgeon? I think you are. >:oP


Yeah I am... so what if I like Que (Wheeljack) better then Bludgeon thats not the point..I could care less for Bludgeon or for that matter this overpriced repaint... yeah Im not gonna pay for this when I can get the original mold for a lower price, Im not much of a repaint fan, a little bit..If you like him thats fine but I think they should of used a different mold.. why use a movieverse character? It just seems odd to me..



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wow you're real mature.. do me a favor and go annoy somebody else troll.. =;


He's the troll?! if anything he's trying to knock some sense into you! since you're the one who says Que is cooler than Bludgeon, I still won't believe you, but you keep saying that. :-(
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Godzillabot Primal » Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:17 am

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Hey look, you're both trolling right now! I agree that Que looks better, but only slightly. The G1 "Blocky" looking head on this guy clashes with the movieverse body

Either way my oppinion

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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby F Prime » Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:33 am

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godzillabot wrote:Hey look, you're both trolling right now!

This.

If you want to keeep arguing you should move it to private messages as you are no longer on topic and the arguments are primarily "I'm right" "No you're not" "YES I AM". There is no way either of you are going to convince the other that Que is better than Blugeon or vice versa.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Godzillabot Primal » Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:36 am

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F Prime wrote:
godzillabot wrote:Hey look, you're both trolling right now!

This.

If you want to keeep arguing you should move it to private messages as you are no longer on topic and the arguments are primarily "I'm right" "No you're not" "YES I AM". There is no way either of you are going to convince the other that Que is better than Blugeon or vice versa.


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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Rated X » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:02 am

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Rated X wrote:
scypris115 wrote:
Rated X wrote:
scypris115 wrote:
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scypris115 wrote:Thats your personal prefrence... I dont like any characters that are not in the movies so yes hes crap to me.. and last time I checked, Takaras version of wheeljack was released.. I bought him too so.. yeah


Who cares if he wasn't in the movies? it's Bludgeon, he's a skeleton samurai tank man, if you don't like that then I sorta feel sorry for you. :oops:
Also are you saying that Que is better than Bludgeon? I think you are. >:oP


Yeah I am... so what if I like Que (Wheeljack) better then Bludgeon thats not the point..I could care less for Bludgeon or for that matter this overpriced repaint... yeah Im not gonna pay for this when I can get the original mold for a lower price, Im not much of a repaint fan, a little bit..If you like him thats fine but I think they should of used a different mold.. why use a movieverse character? It just seems odd to me..



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YEAH SERIOUSLY! GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT?!



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wow you're real mature.. do me a favor and go annoy somebody else troll.. =;


He's the troll?! if anything he's trying to knock some sense into you! since you're the one who says Que is cooler than Bludgeon, I still won't believe you, but you keep saying that. :-(


What one guy calls “Trolling” another might call it having a sense of humor.

If this dudes favorite Transformers character of all time is Que, more power to him.

Let me try to explain my point of view to him one last time.

Look at these:

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After seeing those, do you still honestly like this ????

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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Dead Metal » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:58 am

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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby NTESHFT » Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:13 pm

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O.k...........back on topic........... At first I didn't like it, but it has grown on me. I do like the mold,and I think it looks kool in alt mode. I'm ready to see the others so I can make my mind up on the set..............but I'm pretty sure I'll end up getting it....
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Rated X » Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:16 pm

Motto: ""Assumption is the mother of all screw ups.""
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Dead Metal wrote:Rated X and scypris115, please stop trolling each other and lets get back on topic.
If you continue the way you go you'll be issued a warning.



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