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El Duque wrote:All this really means is you'll being seeing/buying third-party items in the dealers private hotel rooms rather than the actual dealer room.

Precisely..Captured prey has already stated that they will be right after the parts party (acc their facebook). Hasbro can ban them from the actual dealer floor but 3rd party stuff will be their in some way shape or form..

I honestly can't say that I'm surprised, and frankly I think they're well within their right to do this. I can't help but wonder if some dealers are going to have some "under the table" deals. More likely though, they'll just sell things from their hotel room after hours.

Still though, there goes my plans on getting Herc and FP Insecticons next month...

Hoitytoity wrote:I honestly can't say that I'm surprised, and frankly I think they're well within their right to do this. I can't help but wonder if some dealers are going to have some "under the table" deals. More likely though, they'll just sell things from their hotel room after hours.

Still though, there goes my plans on getting Herc and FP Insecticons next month...

Trust me.. You'll be able to but them there...A ton of selling and trading goes on after the dealer floor shuts down.I know Im bringing a suitcase full of goodies

Hasbro really needs a Transformers line aimed at the adult collector - it's the niche the 3rd Parties are filling.

Or perhaps create some way to bring the 3rd Parties into the fold and profit off of them.

Well, it's their right. It's their convention.

However, I don't see this as being a big hit with the fans. This is something that should've been implemented long ago. This last minute rule change crap doesn't sit well with me. Especially after everything that's gone on so far.

Not to mention the whole confiscation thing. Kick 'em out, go ahead, but forcefully taking possession of the items seems rather illegal to me.

I'd like to see how that holds up in a court of law. Plus the whole turning over to the authorities thing? Yeaah...not gonna happen.

Without incident? Heh...someone's playing Equilibrium the home game... "No. Not without incident

Before it's all said and done, watch them change it to include the "parts" parties. That should reeeeeally make the people get P.O.ed.

LiKwid wrote:

Hoitytoity wrote:I honestly can't say that I'm surprised, and frankly I think they're well within their right to do this. I can't help but wonder if some dealers are going to have some "under the table" deals. More likely though, they'll just sell things from their hotel room after hours.

Still though, there goes my plans on getting Herc and FP Insecticons next month...

Trust me.. You'll be able to but them there...A ton of selling and trading goes on after the dealer floor shuts down.I know Im bringing a suitcase full of goodies

How bout hook up some of your fellow Seibertronian's? You think you can put together a list of what your bringin and what your prices are?

And just a general comment, PERSONALLY, I don't collect cool transforming robots. I collect TRANSFORMERS and most of my buying decisions are based on the character, not the toy. If it is a Character (or not-character) I really don't care who makes it. I want to throw 100% support to Has/Tak, but right now, they just aren't selling me. Now the new MP Sideswipe, most of the WFC, ofcourse, sold.

Almagnus1 wrote:Hasbro really needs a Transformers line aimed at the adult collector - it's the niche the 3rd Parties are filling.

Or perhaps create some way to bring the 3rd Parties into the fold and profit off of them.

Agreed. I collect sixth scale figures from companies like Sideshow Collectibles and Hot Toys, which sell very accurate representations of movie, game, and other characters, that sale for 100 to over 200 dollars, and obviously they are making enough profit to come out ahead and to continue wanting to make these collectibles, so I don't see why Hasbro wouldn't consider making more accurate and complicated transformers that adult collectors would buy, just on a smaller scale and maybe through a website. I don't want to seem like I don't appreciate the great toys they have given us, but "masterpiece" quality of some of my favorites from different universes would be something I would buy at a higher price.

I see this as a good thing and a bad thing. Personally, this is a wake up call for - ironically, not for the 3rd party companies, but for Hasbro/Takara themselves. 3rd party companies had been able to supply the fans and consumers with characters that were neglected by Hasbro/Takara (i.e. Springer, a combiner Bruticus, etc.) that fans WANT but not able to get for years.

Meanwhile, Hasbro/Takara churns out quadrillion versions of Optimus Primes and Megatrons while totally ignoring the other characters in the Transformers Universe. Sure, you can say that this is not true now that we've been getting the TF Classic/Universe/Generations line, but even within that line we're getting several versions of the same character.

It may be that the 3rd parties are borrowing ideas from Hasbro/Takara to create their version and interpretation of Transformers, but in a free market society, the consumer should have the right to chose where and to who they spend his money. If Hasbro/Takara continues to make garbage or continues to make and sell Debutante Power Optimus Prime and thinks that people will eat it up like it was the greatest thing in the world, then having the options provided by a 3rd party company is a GOOD thing because it gives the fan an alternative to not spend their money on garbage from a company that couldn't care less about the rich history of TFs so they can make a quick buck.

Then again, I am not going to say "boycott Hasbro" or "boycott Botcon" - that's a stupid thing to do, but at the same time, if you don't like this arrangement, then DON'T buy the official TFs or go to Botcon if you don't want to - voice your distaste with your dollars. Keep in mind, though, that you have to understand Hasbro/Takara has the right to protect their interests, no matter how petty their actions may seem.

There weren't any third party items for sale at Cybertron Con last week and I didn't hear any complaints.

Almagnus1 wrote:Hasbro really needs a Transformers line aimed at the adult collector - it's the niche the 3rd Parties are filling.

They had a good chance to do something different with Alternators by offering up parts to help customise them.