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This is all in good fun and purely a thread directed at and consumed by only the most adamant of Transformers fanatics. But let's be clear. I can truly say the Bay TF franchise had a varied array of altmodes for the bots and cons. I would like to cite my source on the matter however. Take a look back and see what was posted. The alt modes are merely updated forms of the originals (the sentiment was for the most part). This is inaccurate. I never mentioned anything implying the absence of any other alt modes. Hell, these 6 reasons are mine. Which is why anyone who responds to threads like this should be (without attempting to troll or derail the conversation) in the mindset of pure individual taste. Poking holes in anyone's opinion is truly a matter up to the individual. Respectfully, eat me.

You know, I've been an ass hat this entire thread. I apologize.

Court Jester wrote:Poking holes in anyone's opinion is truly a matter up to the individual.

Didn't stop you from saying some opinions were outright wrong now did it?

Oh wait ...

Court Jester wrote:Respectfully, eat me.

Court Jester wrote:You know, I've been an ass hat this entire thread. I apologize.

hmmmm ... so you have your say, shoot others down, then decide you made a whoopsie and expect forgiveness. Nice ploy.

Seriously, it does come down to individual tastes. Some people are going to love the G1 cartoon over the modern movies and vice-versa. Both are perfect, both are imperfect, it's whatever the hell you want it to be to yourself.

So just go and watch whatever you like, and let's save the barbs for something else.

Court Jester wrote:This is all in good fun and purely a thread directed at and consumed by only the most adamant of Transformers fanatics. But let's be clear. I can truly say the Bay TF franchise had a varied array of altmodes for the bots and cons. I would like to cite my source on the matter however. Take a look back and see what was posted. The alt modes are merely updated forms of the originals (the sentiment was for the most part). This is inaccurate. I never mentioned anything implying the absence of any other alt modes.

I don't know what any of this means. Are you saying that I meant to imply that the alt modes are updates of the old ones? Because that would be inaccurate.

Court Jester wrote:Hell, these 6 reasons are mine. Which is why anyone who responds to threads like this should be (without attempting to troll or derail the conversation) in the mindset of pure individual taste. Poking holes in anyone's opinion is truly a matter up to the individual. Respectfully, eat me.

Here's the problem: You posted your opinions in a thread whose very purpose is to argue opinions. What did you think was going to happen?

now if only bay and greedberg could both aplogise from making crap transformers films and if only greedberg could apologise to megan fox about being so sodding touchy.......well... it would be nice

sadly i think this 2 morons will continue to make horrible transformer films with robots that have no charactistics, all look the same, crap plots, annoying humans, stupid reasonings and turd hole writters who clearly write the scripts in the coffee shop to LOOK cool without any actual effort put in

Swindle01 wrote:greedberg

You know, that you keep trying to claim how the Jewish guy is so greedy doesn't help disprove that antisemitism point I made earlier.

zenosaurus_x wrote:

Court Jester wrote:Reason 1: They were cartoons and not live action.

Wouldn't this just be based on opinion and thus can't actually be used to say one's better?

Your question seems rather pointless, the idea that any one thing is better then an other is an opinion based issue.

Court Jester wrote: This is inaccurate. I never mentioned anything implying the absence of any other alt modes.

actully you pretty much did with this statemernt.............

Court Jester wrote:No, transformers were more than a bunch of sports cars and military vehicles.

Thar statement is INDEED implying the absence of any other alt modes.

It may not be what you were was trying to say,but thats how it reads and the statement is still inaccurate.

Swindle01 wrote:now if only bay and greedberg could both aplogise from making crap transformers films and if only greedberg could apologise to megan fox about being so sodding touchy.......well... it would be nice

sadly i think this 2 morons will continue to make horrible transformer films with robots that have no charactistics, all look the same, crap plots, annoying humans, stupid reasonings and turd hole writters who clearly write the scripts in the coffee shop to LOOK cool without any actual effort put in

You have been outright offensive in every post I've read. You ruin it for the rest of us. You should be removed from the fandom.

I agree. Leave your stereotypical biases against a particular ethnicity out of the mix! (FYI, different ethnic groups(Japanese,American,Jewish,Filipino,African American,,Chinese,British,German etc) made the franchise successful).You're starting to sound like a Decepticon!

Anyway, simplifying this argument, G1 was the foundation while the Bayformers are..........(insert I really don't like the movies in general)I grudgingly admit help break it to mainstream( that's the nicest I can say about it). Both have their plus and minuses, let's all leave it at that then. The movies are over, finished, earned more than a billion$$$$.

Let's hope if they(Hasbro,DW,Paramount)make a reboot, it would be improved.