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A question about power-linking.

Postby Justanormalguy » Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:46 pm

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A few days ago I saw my cousin watching an Energon DVD while two Autobits power-linked. But what is the point of it. All they do is combine into a robot that is the same size, but only made of two. When they do that makes them look weak because the Decepticons don't. (I think Demolisher and Snowcat did that once)

Please explain, I think it is to sell toys.
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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby BeastProwl » Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:51 pm

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Well, it makes them stronger against the already powerful decepticons, but it is mainly to sell figures. Demolisher and Snowcat attempted it, to failure of course:
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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby njb902 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:56 pm

FUSION HAAAA!!!!
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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby Justanormalguy » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:26 pm

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njb902 wrote:FUSION HAAAA!!!!



Lol. Here's something.

All right link-up. Optimus Prime form body! Fire 1 Copter 2 form arms and hands! Digger 3 Submarine 4 form legs and feet! And now! Optimus Prime form head! :-? Sounds familiar.
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Re: A question about power-linking.

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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby Justanormalguy » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:30 pm

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OPTIMUS PRIME! WING SABER! POWER LINK!
*wing sabers head splits in half* I guess you could say he had a SPLITTING headache! :DANCE: :michaelbay: :KREMZEEK: :michaelbay: :DANCE:






You know that must hurt.
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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby RAcast » Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:23 pm

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It was a pretty decent gimmick. Though some of them certainly worked better than others. #-o
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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby Justanormalguy » Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:54 pm

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RAcast wrote:It was a pretty decent gimmick. Though some of them certainly worked better than others. #-o


I thought Inferno and Hot shot's combined form was cool.
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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby RAcast » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:12 pm

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Justanormalguy wrote:
RAcast wrote:It was a pretty decent gimmick. Though some of them certainly worked better than others. #-o


I thought Inferno and Hot shot's combined form was cool.

I'm a fan of Jetfire-torso/Ironhide-pants. They look great with HA Whirl, as well.
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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby Duke of Luns » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:20 am

It was more or less a subline group gimmick, and yeah, it was designed to sell more figures. After all, you need at least two figures to make the combination.

However, I honestly think it's a really fun gimmick :D . Yes, some of the combinations are questionable, most of them have giant fender hands, posebility varies greatly between combos, and in the show it really didn't seem to matter one lick. But, despite of all that, it's fun transforming and combining them, and since all but Towline(sorta) could form either a "shirt" or "pants", it really added to the playability of them. Also, you could mess around and combine the weapons, so that was cool.

Fun fact: I'm 90% sure the Energon Powerlinkers were homaging the G1 Multiforce from Victory:

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Multiforce

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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby Justanormalguy » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:40 pm

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Duke of Luns wrote:It was more or less a subline group gimmick, and yeah, it was designed to sell more figures. After all, you need at least two figures to make the combination.

However, I honestly think it's a really fun gimmick :D . Yes, some of the combinations are questionable, most of them have giant fender hands, posebility varies greatly between combos, and in the show it really didn't seem to matter one lick. But, despite of all that, it's fun transforming and combining them, and since all but Towline(sorta) could form either a "shirt" or "pants", it really added to the playability of them. Also, you could mess around and combine the weapons, so that was cool.

Fun fact: I'm 90% sure the Energon Powerlinkers were homaging the G1 Multiforce from Victory:

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Multiforce

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The only thing missing was the ability for everyone to combine into a giant gestalt.


Agreed, I love my energon Optimus Prime figure, he is so fun to play with, I even bought Wingsaber and Omega Supreme to add on to the basic prime force. (Also Omega is a head master! Look!)
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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby STngAR » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:30 pm

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Well I think it was almost a great idea. I just could never get a good combination that I could put on my shelf and stand looking at. :MAXIMAL:
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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby Justanormalguy » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:02 pm

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STngAR wrote:Well I think it was almost a great idea. I just could never get a good combination that I could put on my shelf and stand looking at. :MAXIMAL:


True, I like my Inferno and Energon Hotshot combo.
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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby BeastProwl » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:46 am

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One of my personal favorite combos was double rodimus. Well, Rodimus/Checkpoint, but still, the same thing really.
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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby -Kanrabat- » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:31 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:One of my personal favorite combos was double rodimus. Well, Rodimus/Checkpoint, but still, the same thing really.


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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby Justanormalguy » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:05 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:One of my personal favorite combos was double rodimus. Well, Rodimus/Checkpoint, but still, the same thing really.


I love double-rodimus.

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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby Valandar » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:55 pm

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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby Justanormalguy » Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:01 pm

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Valandar wrote:But, the real question is...

Is that incest or masturbation? :CON: :twisted:


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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby njb902 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:09 pm

Well that's just inappropriate.
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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby Justanormalguy » Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:50 pm

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njb902 wrote:Well that's just inappropriate.


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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby Hip-Hoptimus Rime » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:02 pm

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I love the Energon combining-toy gimmick, but I refuse to combine toys of different scale. Never even tried the Jetfire/Ironhide combo. You can't make me! :evil:
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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:28 pm

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Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:I love the Energon combining-toy gimmick, but I refuse to combine toys of different scale. Never even tried the Jetfire/Ironhide combo. You can't make me! :evil:

Could I make you if I said that Jetfire is a single man space shuttle, where the man lays on his back inside, and Ironhide is a wide, spacious army rover?
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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby RAcast » Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:26 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:
Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:I love the Energon combining-toy gimmick, but I refuse to combine toys of different scale. Never even tried the Jetfire/Ironhide combo. You can't make me! :evil:

Could I make you if I said that Jetfire is a single man space shuttle, where the man lays on his back inside, and Ironhide is a wide, spacious army rover?

Well, Ironhide basically IS a wide-spacious army rover. There's no other logical explanation for the ginormous turret!
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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby Justanormalguy » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:01 pm

Motto: "When it comes to war... or anything, always be yourself, no matter what."
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RAcast wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:
Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:I love the Energon combining-toy gimmick, but I refuse to combine toys of different scale. Never even tried the Jetfire/Ironhide combo. You can't make me! :evil:

Could I make you if I said that Jetfire is a single man space shuttle, where the man lays on his back inside, and Ironhide is a wide, spacious army rover?

Well, Ironhide basically IS a wide-spacious army rover. There's no other logical explanation for the ginormous turret!


I dislike Energon Ironhide. He clogs shelves. But seriously his voice is awful.
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Re: A question about power-linking.

Postby RAcast » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:08 pm

Motto: "Can't stop, so what! That's how I like it!"
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Justanormalguy wrote:
RAcast wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:
Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:I love the Energon combining-toy gimmick, but I refuse to combine toys of different scale. Never even tried the Jetfire/Ironhide combo. You can't make me! :evil:

Could I make you if I said that Jetfire is a single man space shuttle, where the man lays on his back inside, and Ironhide is a wide, spacious army rover?

Well, Ironhide basically IS a wide-spacious army rover. There's no other logical explanation for the ginormous turret!


I dislike Energon Ironhide. He clogs shelves. But seriously his voice is awful.

But his pants are awesome.
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