Sabrblade wrote: njb902 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Guys, within the context of just Transformers: Prime, it was permanent. Any resurrection he may inevitably get in a follow up series would be outside of the Transformers: Prime series. You guys are all thinking within the context of the greater continuity, while I'm only speaking from the context of just the individual series that it occurred in itself.
It's no different from saying that Optimus Primal permanently died at the end of Beast Machines, even though two different follow up stories brought him back from the dead. Those stories are outside of the Beast Machines cartoon, so they aren't part of that series even though they are part of its greater continuity.
I just don't think he died.
He became "one with the AllSpark", which Smokescreen remarked meant "That's what you say when someone kicks the..." ("bucket" is likely what he gonna finish with), and a distressed Ratchet spoke of Optimus about to lose his life. For a Cybertronain to "join the Allspark" is to leave the land of the living and enter the afterlife, essentially the Transformer equivalent of going into Heaven.
Wait: Isn't strongly suggested that there is reincarnation between Cybertronians in this Universe?
1) Breakdown said to Bulkhead in "Operation: Breakdown" Maybe in next life
2) Optimus also said that "This is yet another transformation", and later that all life comes and goes back to the Allspark
3) There is a great resemblance between Breakdown and Darksteel, arguably even between Dreadwing and Skylynx.
4)This flying Red Spark...
The point is: I belive that Optimus in Aligned Contiuity technically isn't "dead" yet he reborn as some compleltly different Cybertronian with no memeory, different body and personality. I think it is nice way to keep him "alive", and making he's return impossible at the same time.
Actually, Transformers 5 without Optimus could be the best movie of the series, especially if they decide that Megatron stay dead. I'm kinda tired of Optimus and Megatron beign like Kenny Mccormick in this universe. 4 movies with main Transformers cast remains pretty much the same is enough for me.