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Paradox Factor wrote:Every time I see a preview for Joe, it just reminds me how there's always something about it I dislike. The first trailer had the pretty badly CG Snake-Eyes doing a backflip over the car. Personally, I was looking forward to seeing Ray Park as Snake-Eyes, not a bad looking computer effect. I'll admit though I am a bit biased on the real vs CG argument. 99% of hte time I can spot CG, and this time especially I think doing it real, or even mixed (real backflip compositied into the shot) would have looked better.

Likewise. I think that people should always be real stuntmen unless absolutely impossible in a film. CGI humans, 90% of the time, just do not move the way a real person does. Look at Blade II, with the fight infront of the big UV Lamps, or the Matrix II, with Neo vs a million Smiths...both look bad.

In fact, some of the film is quite good.

:slaps forehead:

What's with the Bay-bashing these days ?

Transformers 2 didn't live up to the good things we saw in TF 1. But there's no need to compare GIJoe to TF2; if GIJoe is gonna be any good it has to be good on its own merits.

I'm probably not going to see GIJoe because i wasn't a fan of the series, that's the only reason. If i go i'll go with friends to see The Baroness.

Now Avatar: that is gonna be better than Revenge of The Fallen.

You still could pay me enough to see this movie

I would rather for it to hit cable next year

Erm well it could possibly do better opening than ROTF in the US as america does have it fixation with the military and liking to think its the worlds police, but when your talking number you have to remember the box office total will be for world wide numbers which is the one to bet. Studios are a bit too domestic centric.

Sadly I do not think that the take will be that great in non US teritories, GI Joes as a world wide brand is just not that big,. Large parts of Asia, the middle east hell even Europe havent had GI Joe toys since the early 90's let alone any thing else.

Im hard pressed to think of many comic shops that stock the nontransformer comics for the Joes.

Im also guessing it may get limited releaes in coutries such as Latvia, Lituania, Macedonia and certain other ex soviet block countries and it may not get released at all in other less than friendly to the US countries.

I personally will go see it as will my Russian girl friend (she loves trashy blow stuff up American pop corn flicks, she loved ROTF). Trying to get her to come to botcon next year.

Neurie wrote:Erm well it could possibly do better opening than ROTF in the US as america does have it fixation with the military and liking to think its the worlds police, but when your talking number you have to remember the box office total will be for world wide numbers which is the one to bet. Studios are a bit too domestic centric.

Sadly I do not think that the take will be that great in non US teritories, GI Joes as a world wide brand is just not that big,. Large parts of Asia, the middle east hell even Europe havent had GI Joe toys since the early 90's let alone any thing else.

Im hard pressed to think of many comic shops that stock the nontransformer comics for the Joes.

Im also guessing it may get limited releaes in coutries such as Latvia, Lituania, Macedonia and certain other ex soviet block countries and it may not get released at all in other less than friendly to the US countries.

I personally will go see it as will my Russian girl friend (she loves trashy blow stuff up American pop corn flicks, she loved ROTF). Trying to get her to come to botcon next year.

Every comic shop I've been to in Canada carries GIJoe stuff. I'd be willing to bet on Mexico having a fair liking of it too. And, of course, GIJoe, as Action Force, has a storied history in Britain.

Basically anything is going to be better then ROTF. The trailers for this movie look good and the cast is pretty decent but after seeing the power suits and the way Cobra looks im not to sure. Im not going to pass full judgment until i see it but after seeing ROTF, im going to go into GIJOE with absolutely no expectations at all. Well maybe some since the acting should be good unlike TF. I will say this though, after seeing Resolute no GIJOE is ever going to be better.

Mechastrike wrote:one thing i don't like about G.I. Joe is that i probably can't relate with their Real American Heroes.(truth be told I'M ASIAN).

The Joe team had a few Asian characters, like Quick-Kick and Budo, and they were likable, but all had a martial arts specialty. You didn't see an Asian Joe who, for example, was a bazooka soldier and didn't seem to know a spin-kick from a headlock. Not an unusual situation for the 80's, but some more diversity would have been nice. You have to at least give the creators of the cartoon credit for making Quick-Kick obviously an American - I think he talked kind of like a surfer - and not a total stereotype.

But yeah, if you actually lived in any other country but the U.S., I can imagine you, no matter your nationality, not relating well to G.I. Joe, lol.

I was pretty excited about this till they cast Dennis Quaid as Duke. Still looks pretty good but at the same time my TF obsession and GiJoe obsession are completely separate and have nothing to do with each other at all.

No comparison between this and ROTF. That was awesome. Perfect addition to the non G1 first film. Did not expect more than that.

tricky wrote:I was pretty excited about this till they cast Dennis Quaid as Duke. Still looks pretty good but at the same time my TF obsession and GiJoe obsession are completely separate and have nothing to do with each other at all.

No comparison between this and ROTF. That was awesome. Perfect addition to the non G1 first film. Did not expect more than that.

Just so there's no confusion, Dennis Quaid is playing the part of General Hawk and Channing Tatum is playing Duke. I can't think of a better person to play Hawk. He looks just like him.

Tyrannotaur wrote:The First movie in the series is always better than the second. Very few exceptions to that rule (Dark knight, Spider-man 2). I don't think G.I. Joe 2 will be as good as ROC.

Actually, it is usually the reverse. Having established the protagonist(s) in the first film and secured the necessary financial success to warrant an increased budget, most sequels end up being better than the original.

Examples beyond Dark Knight and Spider-Man II? Empire Strikes Back. Star Trek II (Wrath of Khan). Superman II. X-Men II. Blade II. Batman Returns. It's the third film in a franchise that is usually problematic.

Sad that Transformers II: Electric Boogalo failed to live up to this rule. Given how bad this film was, Rise of Cobra would have to be full of suck not to be a better film. The bar is so, so low.