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To clarify we now have two Altinator Ravages. Battle Ravage goes from car to robot with a panther head (Much like BW Ravage) and the new one goes from a car to a beast.

Ravage is officially the first Alternator with a beast mode. The down side is he's allso the first with no robot mode.

Anyway I'm curious to find out something. Who likes the new Beast mode Ravage more than the old robot mode Ravage? And because I wanna see if there's any conection with G1 vs BW let me know if you allso prefer G1 Ravage over the BW version.

I'll post my opinion on them later, I'm just curious to know what you think right now.

lemme start it off then. From what i have seen( i do not own either figure) i prefer beast mode ravage...i also have never owned a single beast wars character if that answers the question on preference.

not to mention the choice in alternate vehicle is slightly more fitting with the alt version being a jag and the BT being a vette(if memory serves me correctly...i dont own the figure)

Beast/G1 for me on both accounts.

G1/ beast (panther) mode for me. i'm not really a fan of beast wars, i prefer vehicles.

Battle Ravage has his merits. He works on some levels as he has the missile launchers but he is just a cat head on Track's body.

(Beast) Ravage is a direct upgrade to G1 Ravage and despite his skinny body and the poorly placed bonnet of the car in beast mode, he looks great.

I am glad I took the chance on him when I found him.

Honestly, Battle Ravage's best merits are probably due to the Tracks mold anyway. The missile launchers and the overall design look great on that car and in black. I'd have to go with the beast mode Ravage Alt, then, since it's something truly different and unique. I like G1 Ravage as well.

Don't have either version(but I have Tracks), yet I think the beast Ravage is truly superior. The reason why is because it's more true to the character, and I love it how it doesn't look like any other alts. Just cars can get kind of boring after a few figures, but it's really nice to see they did something to spice it up. Probably my most wanted alt., and I only have four.

I think that there was nothing wrong with Battle Ravage, in fact, I think Takara's writer did an excellent job of including details specifically explaining his appearance. Truth be told Beast Wars Ravage's involvment was an excellent way to explain details of the shift from G1 to BT and tie up a number of loose ends.

Considering that Takara was following a story line, it seems logical that none of the BT bodies would go to a Decepticon first. After all, how would it look for a car company to build a body for the enemy? Therefore, that Ravage's body would be stolen much like Swindle's is fine by me.

The only reason I can see for Ravage not being as widely accepted in Hasbro's line is because Hasbro has neglected to create any sort of story to justify the characters they choose.

I like Battle Ravage, his color contrasts stand out and the red detailing make him a far better looking character than Tracks. Also his transformation is smoother has the lack of a roof doesn't result in interference with the windshield.

That being said, I look forward to the new Ravage as well, its a unique transformation that shows ambition Hasbro often lacks.

I prefer Battle Ravage because he doesn't look like a walking pile of car parts. A beast mode version of Ravage is a fantastic idea but I personally don't believe it was very well executed. The second Ravage is just a very skinny robot skeleton with a bunch of awkward car parts hanging of him. My opinion has nothing do do with me liking Beast Wars more than G1, it's purely aesthetic.

Yours AK

Alex Kingdom wrote:I prefer Battle Ravage because he doesn't look like a walking pile of car parts. A beast mode version of Ravage is a fantastic idea but I personally don't believe it was very well executed. The second Ravage is just a very skinny robot skeleton with a bunch of awkward car parts hanging of him. My opinion has nothing do do with me liking Beast Wars more than G1, it's purely aesthetic.

Yours AK

I agree that "Beast" Ravage could have been put together in a more pleasing way but there is something pretty cool about it when its sat in front of you. Hard to describe really, if you can sort of imagine it moving in a cat like way....He's sort of the first scary alternator.