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Ravage XK wrote:I agree that "Beast" Ravage could have been put together in a more pleasing way but there is something pretty cool about it when its sat in front of you. Hard to describe really, if you can sort of imagine it moving in a cat like way....He's sort of the first scary alternator.

Indeed and I have to admitt I almost caved and bought one today, however all things concidered I still feel Battle Ravage, or in my case Binaltech Ravage, is the better figure. Also I'm holding out to see if/what Takara do with the mould in Kiss Players, it could be awesome and it will certainly look better in alt-mode!

Yours AK

Id like to see the Kiss version have a fine sparkle about the paintwork.

I would also like the floor pan to be black instead of grey. It would go a long way towards give him some pseudo bulk.

Stormrider wrote:
Does the Jaguar have printed both Hasbro and Takara as the copyright?

I too like Battle Ravage. He reminds me of the Egyptian God Anubis:

Yes, Hasbro and Takara both appear on the underside of the car.

A like the new Beast Ravage alot better.

The old Corvette one just looked... weird. Like a robot with a cat head for no reason - more like the Beast Wars Ravage from the TV show, if you see it that way, the toy works much better.

I love the new Jaguar Ravage because he's so unique and well done, and he's easily my favourite Alternator to date!

SKowl wrote:A like the new Beast Ravage alot better.

The old Corvette one just looked... weird. Like a robot with a cat head for no reason - more like the Beast Wars Ravage from the TV show, if you see it that way, the toy works much better.

If you see it that way you'd be seeing it right. BT Ravage was described as being the future version of Ravage (the one from Beast Wars) so you see there is a reason for the cat head.

Yours AK

Well I said I would post my opinion at a later time and I think that time has come...

Dispite my original question I myself was not even affected by my likeing BW Ravage more than G1. This question came as an after thought.

I actully like the Beast Mode Ravage Alternator more than the robot mode Ravage. My reasons being...

A. His car mode is a Jag witch allso matches his Japanise name.

B. I didn't like that the original Ravage had a cat head and didn't have a cat mode.

C. Beast Ravage looks a hell of alot more like G1 Ravage than Robot Ravage looks like BW Ravage.

My after thought was basically "Maybe they made this second version to appeal more to the G1 fans?" So I was just wondering if people liking the new version more liked him only because he looks like G1 Ravage. (Well maybe not only because but that's at least part of the reason)

Allso I normally don't like the Transformers who don't have robot modes. It seems most of the characters matching that description were in G1. Oh well I still like this version of Ravage.

Alex Kingdom wrote:I prefer Battle Ravage because he doesn't look like a walking pile of car parts. A beast mode version of Ravage is a fantastic idea but I personally don't believe it was very well executed. The second Ravage is just a very skinny robot skeleton with a bunch of awkward car parts hanging of him. My opinion has nothing do do with me liking Beast Wars more than G1, it's purely aesthetic.

Yours AK

And that's better than an bot mode which looks like someone's cut up a Corvette and stuck the pieces on a robot body more or less in their original position?

Swoop wrote:And that's better than an bot mode which looks like someone's cut up a Corvette and stuck the pieces on a robot body more or less in their original position?

Yes because Alt Ravage looks like Battle Ravage might look if he were positioned on all fours, you can see all the car parts hanging off his back. The corvette mould 'hides' all the car parts on the back of the robot mode. Alt Ravage has no where to hide his and what there is is poorly disguised. Basically I believe the designers did as good a job on Ravages robot mode as the did with Battle Ravage but Battle ravage looks better for it. IMO they should have taken more car in where and how they positioned the car parts on the new Ravage.

Yours AK