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Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby orangeitis » Sun May 06, 2012 6:44 pm

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It seems that I'm alone in enjoying it. Granted, I have my own nitpicks, but I'm mainly concerned about how The Fallen is explained in the multiversal Transformers continuity. What some fans do have problems with though, I see them as no problem at all. For instance:

Skids & Mudflap - They're robots, I don't think people should see them as anything to get offended by. They had a good dynamic, and they offered a good personality to the Autobot team. The time they started fighting with each other was a bit forced feeling, but it was to move the plot along.

Using the allspark shard on Jetfire instead of Optimus Prime - Optimus was dead, Jetfire in stasis lock/dormant, and the allspark fragments don't revive robots unless heavy modifications are done to them(like Scalpel did with Megatron). That's the most logical explanation that I think fits.

Megatron saying there is no authority above him, then calls The Fallen "master" - He's using "master" as synonymous with "teacher" "sensei", etc. The Fallen even refers to Megatron as his apprentice. I thought that was obvious.

The "immature" jokes - Didn't see anything was wrong with them. I liked most of them, at least. I definitely didn't see them as embarrassing to watch.

All in all, my favorite movie of the trilogy. Are there any other fans out there that enjoyed RoTF as much as I did?
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Capt.Failure » Sun May 06, 2012 7:46 pm

orangeitis wrote:It seems that I'm alone in enjoying it. Granted, I have my own nitpicks, but I'm mainly concerned about how The Fallen is explained in the multiversal Transformers continuity. What some fans do have problems with though, I see them as no problem at all. For instance:

Skids & Mudflap - They're robots, I don't think people should see them as anything to get offended by. They had a good dynamic, and they offered a good personality to the Autobot team. The time they started fighting with each other was a bit forced feeling, but it was to move the plot along.

Using the allspark shard on Jetfire instead of Optimus Prime - Optimus was dead, Jetfire in stasis lock/dormant, and the allspark fragments don't revive robots unless heavy modifications are done to them(like Scalpel did with Megatron). That's the most logical explanation that I think fits.

Megatron saying there is no authority above him, then calls The Fallen "master" - He's using "master" as synonymous with "teacher" "sensei", etc. The Fallen even refers to Megatron as his apprentice. I thought that was obvious.

The "immature" jokes - Didn't see anything was wrong with them. I liked most of them, at least. I definitely didn't see them as embarrassing to watch.

All in all, my favorite movie of the trilogy. Are there any other fans out there that enjoyed RoTF as much as I did?


From what I gather if you want to find people who liked it the Transformers forums and the internet are not the place to look. This rings true of any fandom since fandoms are generally horrible conglomerations of barely coherent and unfocused nerdrage about such trite, pointless things that no true discussion ever happens and it's all primarily yelling at each other about how one person's opinions can somehow be "wrong" when discussing something as subjective as a cartoon show, book, or movie.

*breathes, pants, wheezes*

There ya go. Just so you know, I liked all three films too. :D
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Sun May 06, 2012 8:03 pm

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I've been a Transformers fan for as long as I can remember and RotF is my favorite of the movies. I think the reason it catches so much crap is because people think it's "cool" to trash something that's popular. You can see the same thing with Twilight, I guarantee most of the people ripping on it have never read the books or seen the movies. I did the same thing with Titanic back in my immature younger days, and I had never seen it.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Capt.Failure » Sun May 06, 2012 8:27 pm

Evil_the_Nub wrote:I've been a Transformers fan for as long as I can remember and RotF is my favorite of the movies. I think the reason it catches so much crap is because people think it's "cool" to trash something that's popular. You can see the same thing with Twilight, I guarantee most of the people ripping on it have never read the books or seen the movies. I did the same thing with Titanic back in my immature younger days, and I had never seen it.


The short version is your personal enjoyment is the most important thing. Listen not to those who speak about the films "ruining the good name of Transformers" and especially avoid those who would call your personal enjoyment wrong, or would criticize you as a person for liking the films.

In my own experience I've encountered more people who liked all three films than disliked them. However there is no right or wrong here, only what you think.

PS: I met a person online recently who went ballistic over The Avengers as, and I'm quoting, "The worst film released this year" because Thor didn't wear a winged hat. This is why fandoms are terrible sources of opinion.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Autobot032 » Sun May 06, 2012 9:20 pm

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Evil_the_Nub wrote:I've been a Transformers fan for as long as I can remember and RotF is my favorite of the movies. I think the reason it catches so much crap is because people think it's "cool" to trash something that's popular. You can see the same thing with Twilight, I guarantee most of the people ripping on it have never read the books or seen the movies. I did the same thing with Titanic back in my immature younger days, and I had never seen it.


I can honestly say I've seen Twilight. It was pure and total crap. My girlfriend is HOOKED on the series. The books, the movies, you name it.

ROTF isn't a perfect movie by any stretch of the imagination, but it's certainly many levels above Twilight. Even my girlfriend will admit that. She loved ROTF. She thought it was a lot of fun. (She went to the drive in with me to see it, plus she watched it with me on the Imax DVD from Wally's Wonderful World of Wonders.)
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby njb902 » Sun May 06, 2012 9:39 pm

I only have three problems with rotf

1. devestator. they so messed the ending up with his fight being so lame.

2. not enough sideswipe.

3. not enough of the fallen for him to be the big baddie they should have juat stuck with megs.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby OptiMagnus » Sun May 06, 2012 9:54 pm

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"Well, there are other people who like Revenge of the Fallen, but they aren't true fans because they are contributing to a corrupted fan base for liking such an abomination. Therefore, you aren't a true fan, because fans are defined by their disliking of the movie series."

-A True Fan

Putting my sarcastic introduction aside, I remember asking the same- or a similar- question to this two years ago, and I realized I wasn't alone on liking ROTF, or the first movie for that matter. I can't remember who pointed it out, but someone on here said that it's not that there are very few people who like the movies, but it's the ones who hate them that are louder. I love all three movies to death, and my dad and I both agree that ROTF is one our favorite movies of all time. Yes, it does have its flaws, but they aren't enough to cancel out everything good about it for me.
Some people do like to trash popular things for attention, some because they thrive on drama, and they like having arguments to argue against. Some of these are certified "trolls." Others like to make themselves feel better by dehumanizing others, due to insecurity or whatever it may be, by using narrow-minded reasoning. They may think that they are the ONLY ONE in the world who feels the way they do (which is the RIGHT and ONLY way) and that everyone else is contributing to a popular trend that is WRONG or CORRUPTED in some way, so it is their job to show the "offenders" their flaws, which of course makes them feel better about themselves when in reality it is just a matter of personal opinions that shouldn't make or break a person.
Oh, by the way, there are an equal amount of people who do this on the pro-movie side too. I used to be one of them.

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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby TulioDude » Mon May 07, 2012 9:56 am

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Nope,you are not alone buddy.I love Revenge of the Fallen.

OptiMagnus wrote:
But someone on here said that it's not that there are very few people who like the movies, but it's the ones who hate them that are louder. I love all three movies to death, and my dad and I both agree that ROTF is one our favorite movies of all time. Yes, it does have its flaws, but they aren't enough to cancel out everything good about it for me.

This.

Using the allspark shard on Jetfire instead of Optimus Prime - Optimus was dead, Jetfire in stasis lock/dormant, and the allspark fragments don't revive robots unless heavy modifications are done to them(like Scalpel did with Megatron). That's the most logical explanation that I think fits.

People still complain about that?You can clearly see they didn't know they could ressurect Optimus.

Megatron saying there is no authority above him, then calls The Fallen "master" - He's using "master" as synonymous with "teacher" "sensei", etc. The Fallen even refers to Megatron as his apprentice. I thought that was obvious.

So did i.

The "immature" jokes - Didn't see anything was wrong with them. I liked most of them, at least. I definitely didn't see them as embarrassing to watch.

The only thing i remenber not liking was Wheelie's leg humping.The jokes were funny to me.

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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Rushie » Mon May 07, 2012 2:59 pm

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The only moments I really don't like in RotF, were the humping (dogs and Wheelie) and Sam's mom high on space cake. The humping was mercifully short and I actually laughed in the theater when Sam's mom tackled the frisbee player. Otherwise, the film could've used more characterization and exposition of the whole Seven Primes/Seekers/Fallen subplot and less tasering of museum guards and silly bit-character humans getting more close ups than actual Transformers. (I'm looking at you, toothless butcher in Simmons' deli)

Aside from that, I enjoyed the film to heck, saw it twice in theaters and still prefer it to the first film.

Likewise, I'm fine with the vast majority of DotM. It's IMO the best of the trilogy and certainly the darkest and most Transformer-centric. The only thing that was really wrong with DotM was Jerry Wang. Dude should've been toned way the slag down or recast entirely. Too bad that he, unlike most bit characters, is actually central to the plot and can't be removed in a fan edit.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby SlyTF1 » Mon May 07, 2012 5:12 pm

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I loved ROTF, still one of my favorite movies of all time. I just watched it again today.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby njb902 » Mon May 07, 2012 5:26 pm

it is definitely my least favorite of the three, but that dosnt mean it was horrible.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Autobot032 » Mon May 07, 2012 5:43 pm

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Rushie wrote:I'm fine with the vast majority of DotM. It's IMO the best of the trilogy and certainly the darkest and most Transformer-centric. The only thing that was really wrong with DotM was Jerry Wang. Dude should've been toned way the slag down or recast entirely. Too bad that he, unlike most bit characters, is actually central to the plot and can't be removed in a fan edit.


You're forgetting tha Jerry, much like Sam, was forced to act like that. He was under torturous conditions involving crippling pain.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Rushie » Mon May 07, 2012 6:21 pm

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I know he was, but Sam's hijincks with the torture watch were pretty funny. Jerry was just obnoxious, from the extremely forced bathroom stall jokes to the dual gangsta wieldin' and talking down a freaking Decepticon assassin. It's such a drop of quality and genre from the Chicago massacre and the great opening scene.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby SlyTF1 » Mon May 07, 2012 8:16 pm

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One thing about ROTF is that I felt that it had more of an emotional impact on me than any of the other two movies. I always feel so happy after I finish watching it and none of the others really do that. And I thought they explained the Primes well enough for everyone to have a clear understanding as to what was going on; but no. Everyone wants to ignore the movie and blame it for not explaining things, when they're the ones who didn't pay any attention.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Autobot032 » Mon May 07, 2012 8:16 pm

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Rushie wrote:I know he was, but Sam's hijincks with the torture watch were pretty funny. Jerry was just obnoxious, from the extremely forced bathroom stall jokes to the dual gangsta wieldin' and talking down a freaking Decepticon assassin. It's such a drop of quality and genre from the Chicago massacre and the great opening scene.


Part of that is Ken Jeong just being himself. The man's friggin' hilarious. He's a doctor, too. (No, I'm not joking.)
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby OptiMagnus » Mon May 07, 2012 8:49 pm

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Autobot032 wrote:
Part of that is Ken Jeong just being himself. The man's friggin' hilarious. He's a doctor, too. (No, I'm not joking.)

You'd think a guy with a sense of humor like him would be the last person you'd appoint to be a doctor, yet he makes both careers work somehow.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Autobot032 » Tue May 08, 2012 12:49 am

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Autobot032 wrote:
Part of that is Ken Jeong just being himself. The man's friggin' hilarious. He's a doctor, too. (No, I'm not joking.)

You'd think a guy with a sense of humor like him would be the last person you'd appoint to be a doctor, yet he makes both careers work somehow.


One of his Hangover co-stars was poisoned (food) during filming and he assisted on the set. He, like any of us, can turn it on or off when necessary.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby OptiMagnus » Tue May 08, 2012 8:50 pm

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Autobot032 wrote:
OptiMagnus wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Part of that is Ken Jeong just being himself. The man's friggin' hilarious. He's a doctor, too. (No, I'm not joking.)

You'd think a guy with a sense of humor like him would be the last person you'd appoint to be a doctor, yet he makes both careers work somehow.


One of his Hangover co-stars was poisoned (food) during filming and he assisted on the set. He, like any of us, can turn it on or off when necessary.

Holy slag...now that is cool. At least you can't blame him for not contributing to society, like a lot of celebrities are branded with.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Wed May 09, 2012 6:51 pm

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Rushie wrote:The only moments I really don't like in RotF, were the humping (dogs and Wheelie) and Sam's mom high on space cake. The humping was mercifully short and I actually laughed in the theater when Sam's mom tackled the frisbee player. Otherwise, the film could've used more characterization and exposition of the whole Seven Primes/Seekers/Fallen subplot and less tasering of museum guards and silly bit-character humans getting more close ups than actual Transformers. (I'm looking at you, toothless butcher in Simmons' deli)

Aside from that, I enjoyed the film to heck, saw it twice in theaters and still prefer it to the first film.

Likewise, I'm fine with the vast majority of DotM. It's IMO the best of the trilogy and certainly the darkest and most Transformer-centric. The only thing that was really wrong with DotM was Jerry Wang. Dude should've been toned way the slag down or recast entirely. Too bad that he, unlike most bit characters, is actually central to the plot and can't be removed in a fan edit.


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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby OptiMagnus » Wed May 09, 2012 9:17 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
Rushie wrote:The only moments I really don't like in RotF, were the humping (dogs and Wheelie) and Sam's mom high on space cake. The humping was mercifully short and I actually laughed in the theater when Sam's mom tackled the frisbee player. Otherwise, the film could've used more characterization and exposition of the whole Seven Primes/Seekers/Fallen subplot and less tasering of museum guards and silly bit-character humans getting more close ups than actual Transformers. (I'm looking at you, toothless butcher in Simmons' deli)

Aside from that, I enjoyed the film to heck, saw it twice in theaters and still prefer it to the first film.

Likewise, I'm fine with the vast majority of DotM. It's IMO the best of the trilogy and certainly the darkest and most Transformer-centric. The only thing that was really wrong with DotM was Jerry Wang. Dude should've been toned way the slag down or recast entirely. Too bad that he, unlike most bit characters, is actually central to the plot and can't be removed in a fan edit.


THIS.

And I, a second THIS.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby KingEmperor » Thu May 10, 2012 9:40 pm

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Rushie wrote:The only moments I really don't like in RotF, were the humping (dogs and Wheelie) and Sam's mom high on space cake. The humping was mercifully short and I actually laughed in the theater when Sam's mom tackled the frisbee player. Otherwise, the film could've used more characterization and exposition of the whole Seven Primes/Seekers/Fallen subplot and less tasering of museum guards and silly bit-character humans getting more close ups than actual Transformers. (I'm looking at you, toothless butcher in Simmons' deli)

Aside from that, I enjoyed the film to heck, saw it twice in theaters and still prefer it to the first film.

Likewise, I'm fine with the vast majority of DotM. It's IMO the best of the trilogy and certainly the darkest and most Transformer-centric. The only thing that was really wrong with DotM was Jerry Wang. Dude should've been toned way the slag down or recast entirely. Too bad that he, unlike most bit characters, is actually central to the plot and can't be removed in a fan edit.


THIS.

And I, a second THIS.

THIRD. And I loved all three movies.
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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Treetop Maximus » Sun May 13, 2012 4:21 pm

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I enjoyed it, but it was not my favorite. It gets a 7.
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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Capt.Failure » Sun May 13, 2012 5:37 pm

Am I the only one who noticed we've had two threads now about liking RotF that haven't devolved into a troll filled flame fest?

I think the world might really be ending this year, and this is a sign. :-?
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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby OptiMagnus » Sun May 13, 2012 9:17 pm

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Capt.Failure wrote:Am I the only one who noticed we've had two threads now about liking RotF that haven't devolved into a troll filled flame fest?

I think the world might really be ending this year, and this is a sign. :-?

Revenge of the Fallen is the worst movie ever made and all of you who like it are mentally devolved and should be ashamed of how low you've gone to enjoy it. Oh, yeah, and you're also not a true fan of Transformers since you like such an abomination that has RUINED Transformers FOREVER.

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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun May 13, 2012 9:30 pm

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Capt.Failure wrote:Am I the only one who noticed we've had two threads now about liking RotF that haven't devolved into a troll filled flame fest?

I think the world might really be ending this year, and this is a sign. :-?


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