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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby njb902 » Mon May 07, 2012 5:26 pm

it is definitely my least favorite of the three, but that dosnt mean it was horrible.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Autobot032 » Mon May 07, 2012 5:43 pm

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Rushie wrote:I'm fine with the vast majority of DotM. It's IMO the best of the trilogy and certainly the darkest and most Transformer-centric. The only thing that was really wrong with DotM was Jerry Wang. Dude should've been toned way the slag down or recast entirely. Too bad that he, unlike most bit characters, is actually central to the plot and can't be removed in a fan edit.


You're forgetting tha Jerry, much like Sam, was forced to act like that. He was under torturous conditions involving crippling pain.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Rushie » Mon May 07, 2012 6:21 pm

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I know he was, but Sam's hijincks with the torture watch were pretty funny. Jerry was just obnoxious, from the extremely forced bathroom stall jokes to the dual gangsta wieldin' and talking down a freaking Decepticon assassin. It's such a drop of quality and genre from the Chicago massacre and the great opening scene.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby SlyTF1 » Mon May 07, 2012 8:16 pm

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One thing about ROTF is that I felt that it had more of an emotional impact on me than any of the other two movies. I always feel so happy after I finish watching it and none of the others really do that. And I thought they explained the Primes well enough for everyone to have a clear understanding as to what was going on; but no. Everyone wants to ignore the movie and blame it for not explaining things, when they're the ones who didn't pay any attention.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Autobot032 » Mon May 07, 2012 8:16 pm

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Rushie wrote:I know he was, but Sam's hijincks with the torture watch were pretty funny. Jerry was just obnoxious, from the extremely forced bathroom stall jokes to the dual gangsta wieldin' and talking down a freaking Decepticon assassin. It's such a drop of quality and genre from the Chicago massacre and the great opening scene.


Part of that is Ken Jeong just being himself. The man's friggin' hilarious. He's a doctor, too. (No, I'm not joking.)
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby OptiMagnus » Mon May 07, 2012 8:49 pm

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Autobot032 wrote:
Part of that is Ken Jeong just being himself. The man's friggin' hilarious. He's a doctor, too. (No, I'm not joking.)

You'd think a guy with a sense of humor like him would be the last person you'd appoint to be a doctor, yet he makes both careers work somehow.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Autobot032 » Tue May 08, 2012 12:49 am

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OptiMagnus wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Part of that is Ken Jeong just being himself. The man's friggin' hilarious. He's a doctor, too. (No, I'm not joking.)

You'd think a guy with a sense of humor like him would be the last person you'd appoint to be a doctor, yet he makes both careers work somehow.


One of his Hangover co-stars was poisoned (food) during filming and he assisted on the set. He, like any of us, can turn it on or off when necessary.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby OptiMagnus » Tue May 08, 2012 8:50 pm

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Autobot032 wrote:
OptiMagnus wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Part of that is Ken Jeong just being himself. The man's friggin' hilarious. He's a doctor, too. (No, I'm not joking.)

You'd think a guy with a sense of humor like him would be the last person you'd appoint to be a doctor, yet he makes both careers work somehow.


One of his Hangover co-stars was poisoned (food) during filming and he assisted on the set. He, like any of us, can turn it on or off when necessary.

Holy slag...now that is cool. At least you can't blame him for not contributing to society, like a lot of celebrities are branded with.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Wed May 09, 2012 6:51 pm

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Rushie wrote:The only moments I really don't like in RotF, were the humping (dogs and Wheelie) and Sam's mom high on space cake. The humping was mercifully short and I actually laughed in the theater when Sam's mom tackled the frisbee player. Otherwise, the film could've used more characterization and exposition of the whole Seven Primes/Seekers/Fallen subplot and less tasering of museum guards and silly bit-character humans getting more close ups than actual Transformers. (I'm looking at you, toothless butcher in Simmons' deli)

Aside from that, I enjoyed the film to heck, saw it twice in theaters and still prefer it to the first film.

Likewise, I'm fine with the vast majority of DotM. It's IMO the best of the trilogy and certainly the darkest and most Transformer-centric. The only thing that was really wrong with DotM was Jerry Wang. Dude should've been toned way the slag down or recast entirely. Too bad that he, unlike most bit characters, is actually central to the plot and can't be removed in a fan edit.


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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby OptiMagnus » Wed May 09, 2012 9:17 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
Rushie wrote:The only moments I really don't like in RotF, were the humping (dogs and Wheelie) and Sam's mom high on space cake. The humping was mercifully short and I actually laughed in the theater when Sam's mom tackled the frisbee player. Otherwise, the film could've used more characterization and exposition of the whole Seven Primes/Seekers/Fallen subplot and less tasering of museum guards and silly bit-character humans getting more close ups than actual Transformers. (I'm looking at you, toothless butcher in Simmons' deli)

Aside from that, I enjoyed the film to heck, saw it twice in theaters and still prefer it to the first film.

Likewise, I'm fine with the vast majority of DotM. It's IMO the best of the trilogy and certainly the darkest and most Transformer-centric. The only thing that was really wrong with DotM was Jerry Wang. Dude should've been toned way the slag down or recast entirely. Too bad that he, unlike most bit characters, is actually central to the plot and can't be removed in a fan edit.


THIS.

And I, a second THIS.
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Re: Am I the Only FanThat Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby KingEmperor » Thu May 10, 2012 9:40 pm

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OptiMagnus wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
Rushie wrote:The only moments I really don't like in RotF, were the humping (dogs and Wheelie) and Sam's mom high on space cake. The humping was mercifully short and I actually laughed in the theater when Sam's mom tackled the frisbee player. Otherwise, the film could've used more characterization and exposition of the whole Seven Primes/Seekers/Fallen subplot and less tasering of museum guards and silly bit-character humans getting more close ups than actual Transformers. (I'm looking at you, toothless butcher in Simmons' deli)

Aside from that, I enjoyed the film to heck, saw it twice in theaters and still prefer it to the first film.

Likewise, I'm fine with the vast majority of DotM. It's IMO the best of the trilogy and certainly the darkest and most Transformer-centric. The only thing that was really wrong with DotM was Jerry Wang. Dude should've been toned way the slag down or recast entirely. Too bad that he, unlike most bit characters, is actually central to the plot and can't be removed in a fan edit.


THIS.

And I, a second THIS.

THIRD. And I loved all three movies.
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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Treetop Maximus » Sun May 13, 2012 4:21 pm

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I enjoyed it, but it was not my favorite. It gets a 7.
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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Capt.Failure » Sun May 13, 2012 5:37 pm

Am I the only one who noticed we've had two threads now about liking RotF that haven't devolved into a troll filled flame fest?

I think the world might really be ending this year, and this is a sign. :-?
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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby OptiMagnus » Sun May 13, 2012 9:17 pm

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Capt.Failure wrote:Am I the only one who noticed we've had two threads now about liking RotF that haven't devolved into a troll filled flame fest?

I think the world might really be ending this year, and this is a sign. :-?

Revenge of the Fallen is the worst movie ever made and all of you who like it are mentally devolved and should be ashamed of how low you've gone to enjoy it. Oh, yeah, and you're also not a true fan of Transformers since you like such an abomination that has RUINED Transformers FOREVER.

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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun May 13, 2012 9:30 pm

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Capt.Failure wrote:Am I the only one who noticed we've had two threads now about liking RotF that haven't devolved into a troll filled flame fest?

I think the world might really be ending this year, and this is a sign. :-?


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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Capt.Failure » Sun May 13, 2012 9:50 pm

OptiMagnus wrote:
Capt.Failure wrote:Am I the only one who noticed we've had two threads now about liking RotF that haven't devolved into a troll filled flame fest?

I think the world might really be ending this year, and this is a sign. :-?

Revenge of the Fallen is the worst movie ever made and all of you who like it are mentally devolved and should be ashamed of how low you've gone to enjoy it. Oh, yeah, and you're also not a true fan of Transformers since you like such an abomination that has RUINED Transformers FOREVER.

I just saved the world.
You baited my smartass tendencies way too much with that one.


World saved! :michaelbay:

SlyTF1 wrote:
Capt.Failure wrote:Am I the only one who noticed we've had two threads now about liking RotF that haven't devolved into a troll filled flame fest?

I think the world might really be ending this year, and this is a sign. :-?


No, scientists proved the 2012 theory wrong...


That and common sense. ;)

Back on topic: I'm hoping in TF4 that we move on to Unicron as a recurring enemy. The Fallen's failure to spread entropy by destroying stars would sort of tic the big guy off a little. Might even let him come back if Unicron decides he's worth salvaging. While a menacing character I felt he was a bit underplayed in the film's story, but I blame the writer's strike for that. It's not like other popular film trilogies don't have big bads who sit around and do nothing and get punked easily in a matter of minutes *cough*EmperorPalpatine*cough*.
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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby ReDPATH » Fri May 18, 2012 11:38 am

ROTF easily has the most replay value of the 3 movies.

Its better paced than TF 2007 but its comedic undertones keep it from being a better 'film' per say than DOTM.

For every key moment in ROTF which were pretty big...

- Optimus dying
- The Fallens Arrival/Invasion
- Sam dying
- The Final scenic Battle in Egypt

We had to endure

- Sams mom and her college adventure
- The Twins just being force fed fodder stereotypes
- Simmons and his scrotum reference and underwear scene
- Random dog humping

And the good comedy elements didn't really overcome those

- Wheelie

Granted DOTM had that dude from Hangover whom almost single handily ruins the first half of DOTM along with just Sam being there with no purpose in DOTM. Like they had no idea what to do in rewrites when they wrote Megan out and Rosie in. I get the sense the first half of DOTM would have been much better with the original script with Megan/Mikeala in place.

We wouldn't have had to sit through the sell job of Sam/Carly.

But the second half of DOTM did feel a bit more like a Transformers film with Iron Hide dying and most of the original G1 Cons in action.

Megs
Shockwave
Soundwave
Starscream
Laserbeak

Still even with its all of its flaws. ROTF easily has the most replay value of the 3.

Heres how I'd rank them.

In terms of replay value

1. ROTF
2. TF 2007
3. DOTM

In terms of film quality

1. TF 2007
2. DOTM
3. ROTF

ROTF would have arguably been the best of both categories had it keep its dark moments and offset them with reflection rather than stupid comedy. JMO
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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby SlyTF1 » Fri May 18, 2012 12:57 pm

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ReDPATH wrote:ROTF easily has the most replay value of the 3 movies.

Its better paced than TF 2007 but its comedic undertones keep it from being a better 'film' per say than DOTM.

For every key moment in ROTF which were pretty big...

- Optimus dying
- The Fallens Arrival/Invasion
- Sam dying
- The Final scenic Battle in Egypt

We had to endure

- Sams mom and her college adventure
- The Twins just being force fed fodder stereotypes
- Simmons and his scrotum reference and underwear scene
- Random dog humping


The twins where not stereotypes because they where not portraying a certain group of people.
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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby OptiMagnus » Fri May 18, 2012 2:20 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:The twins where not stereotypes because they where not portraying a certain group of people.

That is completely true, unless there happen to be races of humans with neon green and reddish-brown and grey colored skin types that have been previously labelled with the same behaviors.
I'm just not sure how they can be stereotyping people when they are alien robots.
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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Burn » Fri May 18, 2012 2:55 pm

OptiMagnus wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:The twins where not stereotypes because they where not portraying a certain group of people.

That is completely true, unless there happen to be races of humans with neon green and reddish-brown and grey colored skin types that have been previously labelled with the same behaviors.


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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby BeastProwl » Fri May 18, 2012 4:37 pm

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Who exactly was offended by the twins? Correct me if I'm wrong here, but how does one go about being offended by them being all ghetto? I mean, I know SO many people who act that way, and they are all different colors, so this cant be a racist thing. It's the way they act. Any person of any color skin can act any way they want to, so to be offended by such a thing is just dumb.
I didn't hear ANYONE cry foul over how Jazz acted in the first movie. He was toned down in comparison, sure, but it's the same damn thing.
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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby Capt.Failure » Fri May 18, 2012 4:40 pm

BeastProwl wrote:Who exactly was offended by the twins? Correct me if I'm wrong here, but how does one go about being offended by them being all ghetto? I mean, I know SO many people who act that way, and they are all different colors, so this cant be a racist thing. It's the way they act. Any person of any color skin can act any way they want to, so to be offended by such a thing is just dumb.
I didn't hear ANYONE cry foul over how Jazz acted in the first movie. He was toned down in comparison, sure, but it's the same damn thing.


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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

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Capt.Failure wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:Who exactly was offended by the twins? Correct me if I'm wrong here, but how does one go about being offended by them being all ghetto? I mean, I know SO many people who act that way, and they are all different colors, so this cant be a racist thing. It's the way they act. Any person of any color skin can act any way they want to, so to be offended by such a thing is just dumb.
I didn't hear ANYONE cry foul over how Jazz acted in the first movie. He was toned down in comparison, sure, but it's the same damn thing.


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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby SlyTF1 » Fri May 18, 2012 9:13 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:Who exactly was offended by the twins? Correct me if I'm wrong here, but how does one go about being offended by them being all ghetto? I mean, I know SO many people who act that way, and they are all different colors, so this cant be a racist thing. It's the way they act. Any person of any color skin can act any way they want to, so to be offended by such a thing is just dumb.
I didn't hear ANYONE cry foul over how Jazz acted in the first movie. He was toned down in comparison, sure, but it's the same damn thing.


I heard a lot of people complaining about Jazz in the first movie the same way they did about the twins.
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Re: Am I the Only Fan That Likes Revenge of The Fallen?

Postby OptiMagnus » Fri May 18, 2012 11:06 pm

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Burn wrote:
OptiMagnus wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:The twins where not stereotypes because they where not portraying a certain group of people.

That is completely true, unless there happen to be races of humans with neon green and reddish-brown and grey colored skin types that have been previously labelled with the same behaviors.


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Didn't think about that...but you're right. :lol:

BeastProwl wrote:Who exactly was offended by the twins? Correct me if I'm wrong here, but how does one go about being offended by them being all ghetto? I mean, I know SO many people who act that way, and they are all different colors, so this cant be a racist thing. It's the way they act. Any person of any color skin can act any way they want to, so to be offended by such a thing is just dumb.
I didn't hear ANYONE cry foul over how Jazz acted in the first movie. He was toned down in comparison, sure, but it's the same damn thing.

I agree 100% here. I know people of all different races who act like the twins. Yes, they may be "ghetto" stereotypes, but that doesn't imply one race over another. In fact, if one is offended by the twins being racist because of the way they act, they would first have to associate a certain race with their behavior. Therefore, it is actually racist to associate certain behaviors with one race, because it assumes EVERYONE, or the majority of a race acts the same way.
And calling Jazz racist is definitely a stretch. I haven't met any naturally silver-colored people yet.
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