Cthulhunicron wrote:I still think it's the worst of the trilogy. The twins just ruin the movie for me. I don't see why it would have been so difficult to focus more on characters like Sideswipe and Arcee.
And it really shows that they were having script problems when they were making this film. The story is a convoluted mess.
I know someone's probably going to reply and say "just watch the damn movie, there are no plot holes!" Let's look at what the movie tells us: There were 13 Primes who presided over harvesting suns, using the Matrix of Leadership. The Primes can teleport across great distances and only a Prime is capable of killing another Prime.
They never said that, the Fallen said only a prime can defeat him. There is a difference between defeating and killing. Take the forest battle for example, Optimus was beating Megatron, Starscream, and Grindor at the same time. It was only by sneaking up on him that Megatron was able to kill him. He couldn't defeat him, but he did kill him.
One of the Primes goes against their law of protecting life and tries to build a solar harvester on Earth. The Primes intervene, a battle is fought between the Fallen and his followers (the early Decepticons) and the other primes and their followers (early Autobots). The Primes steal the Matrix back from the Fallen, go into a cave and blow themselves up to hide the Matrix.
There's never really been a satisfactory answer as to why the Primes needed to "entomb" the Matrix on Earth in the first place. I mean...they can all teleport, and the Matrix is vital to Cybertron's survival, so instead of blowing themselves up in a cave to hide it from the Fallen, why not just teleport back to Cybertron and hide it there? Furthermore, they outnumber the Fallen 12 to 1, so why didn't they just kill him and the Decepticons?
Jetfire said the Fallen was stronger than all his brothers. Plus we don't know how many followers they had. The Fallen could have enough followers to outnumber the other primes and their followers 10 to 1. Besides, hiding the Matrix on Earth worked, the Fallen never found it.
The IDW comics shed some light on this, though I don't think it's a good sign when you need to read the comics in order to make sense of the movies. The Prime is portrayed as being vastly more powerful than the other Primes, due to his conquering other worlds and assimilating their technology and knowledge. Also the Primes attempt to reason with him at first, and the Fallen just slaughters them. The last one gathers up the collected energy of the other Primes and uses it to imprison the Fallen in his sarcophagus. So....at this point, I don't see why he doesn't just grab the Matrix and go back to Cybertron.
I've never read the comics, every time they try to expand what happens after the movies the next one contradicts it. I just go by what happens in the movies, they tell you everything you need to know.