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SlyTF1 wrote:

shamone wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).

How is that a problem?

some people prefer less explosions more plot.

For what purpose? What do you get out of a plot? You can't see a plot. So why come watch a movie if that's all you want?

It's a matter of enjoying something more on an intellectual level vs. a more visual level. Movies that are are low plot/high effects are primarily meant to be enjoyed as spectacles of the eye. I still believe anyone who expected otherwise of the Transformers films was barking up the wrong tree.

At the same time, some people perfer movies that surprise them with twists and turns in the story or deeper mysteries. These kinds of films usually have action and spectacle take a back seat. Mind you there's nothing wrong with enjoying one over the other, or even both together.

The idea that the Transformers films are bad due to not being focused on plot is just asinine. I perfer many plot heavy films, but sometimes I just wanna see all the pretty lights too.

Nico wrote:The problem is that if that eventually it will be hard to top the previous ones if a movie attempt to be smaller in scope. To give examples, once you stand on galaxies or crush the sun with a huge hammer, its hard to top stuff like that.

While I disagree with you on the quality of the films, I'm happy to say you have a very good taste in anime.

Lemme just add I'm glad Bay's ending the series at three films. Film series generally go bad after three films, so a new story will do the franchise good.

Capt.Failure wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

shamone wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).

How is that a problem?

some people prefer less explosions more plot.

For what purpose? What do you get out of a plot? You can't see a plot. So why come watch a movie if that's all you want?

It's a matter of enjoying something more on an intellectual level vs. a more visual level. Movies that are are low plot/high effects are primarily meant to be enjoyed as spectacles of the eye. I still believe anyone who expected otherwise of the Transformers films was barking up the wrong tree.

At the same time, some people perfer movies that surprise them with twists and turns in the story or deeper mysteries. These kinds of films usually have action and spectacle take a back seat. Mind you there's nothing wrong with enjoying one over the other, or even both together.

The idea that the Transformers films are bad due to not being focused on plot is just asinine. I perfer many plot heavy films, but sometimes I just wanna see all the pretty lights too.

The surprises only surprise you the first time you watch it. Then it gets boring watching the same "twist" take place over and over again.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

shamone wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).

How is that a problem?

some people prefer less explosions more plot.

For what purpose? What do you get out of a plot? You can't see a plot. So why come watch a movie if that's all you want?

It's a matter of enjoying something more on an intellectual level vs. a more visual level. Movies that are are low plot/high effects are primarily meant to be enjoyed as spectacles of the eye. I still believe anyone who expected otherwise of the Transformers films was barking up the wrong tree.

At the same time, some people perfer movies that surprise them with twists and turns in the story or deeper mysteries. These kinds of films usually have action and spectacle take a back seat. Mind you there's nothing wrong with enjoying one over the other, or even both together.

The idea that the Transformers films are bad due to not being focused on plot is just asinine. I perfer many plot heavy films, but sometimes I just wanna see all the pretty lights too.

The surprises only surprise you the first time you watch it. Then it gets boring watching the same "twist" take place over and over again.

Usually it's about elements of the plot requiring multiple viewings to get things you may have missed. Not overt things but subtle stuff that might surprise you. This goes hand in hand with why more action filled films are open to repeat viewings, so you can "see the awesome" again. Each has it's own reason to be viewed over and over.

Capt.Failure wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

shamone wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).

How is that a problem?

some people prefer less explosions more plot.

For what purpose? What do you get out of a plot? You can't see a plot. So why come watch a movie if that's all you want?

It's a matter of enjoying something more on an intellectual level vs. a more visual level. Movies that are are low plot/high effects are primarily meant to be enjoyed as spectacles of the eye. I still believe anyone who expected otherwise of the Transformers films was barking up the wrong tree.

At the same time, some people perfer movies that surprise them with twists and turns in the story or deeper mysteries. These kinds of films usually have action and spectacle take a back seat. Mind you there's nothing wrong with enjoying one over the other, or even both together.

The idea that the Transformers films are bad due to not being focused on plot is just asinine. I perfer many plot heavy films, but sometimes I just wanna see all the pretty lights too.

The surprises only surprise you the first time you watch it. Then it gets boring watching the same "twist" take place over and over again.

Usually it's about elements of the plot requiring multiple viewings to get things you may have missed. Not overt things but subtle stuff that might surprise you. This goes hand in hand with why more action filled films are open to repeat viewings, so you can "see the awesome" again. Each has it's own reason to be viewed over and over.

Come to think of it...it's the atmosphere of most movies that keep me interested in seeing them again.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

shamone wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).

How is that a problem?

some people prefer less explosions more plot.

For what purpose? What do you get out of a plot? You can't see a plot. So why come watch a movie if that's all you want?

It's a matter of enjoying something more on an intellectual level vs. a more visual level. Movies that are are low plot/high effects are primarily meant to be enjoyed as spectacles of the eye. I still believe anyone who expected otherwise of the Transformers films was barking up the wrong tree.

At the same time, some people perfer movies that surprise them with twists and turns in the story or deeper mysteries. These kinds of films usually have action and spectacle take a back seat. Mind you there's nothing wrong with enjoying one over the other, or even both together.

The idea that the Transformers films are bad due to not being focused on plot is just asinine. I perfer many plot heavy films, but sometimes I just wanna see all the pretty lights too.

The surprises only surprise you the first time you watch it. Then it gets boring watching the same "twist" take place over and over again.

Usually it's about elements of the plot requiring multiple viewings to get things you may have missed. Not overt things but subtle stuff that might surprise you. This goes hand in hand with why more action filled films are open to repeat viewings, so you can "see the awesome" again. Each has it's own reason to be viewed over and over.

Come to think of it...it's the atmosphere of most movies that keep me interested in seeing them again.

I don't want to presume how experienced you are with watching films, but it sounds like if you gave less action oriented films a chance you'd still enjoy them. 2001: A Space Odyssey, Blade Runner, Elizabeth and Stalker are some of my favorites that are highly atmosphereic.

Nope. I wouldn't miss a Transformers series/movie for the world. Really. Then I'll place my crappy critique in the end. Just kidding, very rarely do I give negative critique (then happened: RotF!!!)

People who talk about how "deep" Blade Runner is really need to go read the fraking book it was based on. You'll never enjoy the movie again.

After reading adaptations and such, I'm confident this will be the best of the three. Hopefully I'm not eating my words next week...

Well honestly I'm thinking about skipping it because of how bad the second movie was and thus far trailers haven't changed my mind. I mean really I think the only thing I`ll enjoy are the action sequences and I don't feel like dealing with the rest.. I dunno maybe I`ll give it a rent when it comes out and skip to the action scenes.. (Please forgive me if I sound shallow)

SlyTF1 wrote:

shamone wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Nico wrote:Well, that wouldn't be the first time a serie suffer from a "trilogy creep" but the problem with that is that each movie attempt to out do the other in term of special effect (such as ever bigger robots and explosions).

How is that a problem?

some people prefer less explosions more plot.

For what purpose? What do you get out of a plot? You can't see a plot. So why come watch a movie if that's all you want?

This might just be one of the biggest brain poppers I've ever read.

The first movie had no plot. Glasses? eBay? Really?
The second movie had a plot. The critics and some fans didn't like it, but it was certainly better than the first, which is why I can watch it repeatedly.
The third will be the best of them, storywise. I can't imagine sitting through a movie that's nothing but explosions and special effects.

It would be like sitting through a continuous lightsaber battle that never ends, going on for 2.5 hours. Oh joy.

The difference in plots is that the first was campy and fun. The second wasn't.