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First Gen wrote:Hot Rods amazing ability to transform 3 different ways, Devestator pounding the crap out of the Dinobots and their eyes literally popping out of there heads. Dead TF's living TF's who knows???. The list is incredibly long.

Who says there is only one way to transform from one mode to the next? If you watch the cartoon, the characters there also often had more than one way to transform from one mode to the next.

Sludge's eyes are an optical illusion, like swivelling a pencil infront of a life tv or monitor.

They all rolled off the assembly line! They are just the same make and models! Just as long as their licence plates are different...

Screambug wrote:some of the most dynamic personalities the characters ever had.

Unless we're talking about Armada, I think--NAY! I know-- G1 Starscream was one of the most one-sided characters I have ever seen.

Yes, Screamer, we get it. You want to overthrow Megatron. Plus, you're flawed significantly, and not in a good way. How about a little depth?

Raymond T. wrote:

First Gen wrote:Hot Rods amazing ability to transform 3 different ways, Devestator pounding the crap out of the Dinobots and their eyes literally popping out of there heads. Dead TF's living TF's who knows???. The list is incredibly long.

Who says there is only one way to transform from one mode to the next? If you watch the cartoon, the characters there also often had more than one way to transform from one mode to the next.

Sludge's eyes are an optical illusion, like swivelling a pencil infront of a life tv or monitor.

They all rolled off the assembly line! They are just the same make and models! Just as long as their licence plates are different...

I was going to say, the first two at least don't even sound like errors on paper, just directing or storyboarding choices.

I thought we were going to get a list of things like Shockwave at the battle for Autobot City or Swoop's legs at Autobot City before the Dinobots arrived.

Of course, a lot of G1's errors can be swept under the carpet as "other robots that have the physical design, a la the Seekers, etc.).

First Gen wrote:

Predaprince wrote:

First Gen wrote:The errors in TFTM were enough to drive you mad.

They were?

Which ones?

Hot Rods amazing ability to transform 3 different ways, Devestator pounding the crap out of the Dinobots and their eyes literally popping out of there heads. Dead TF's living TF's who knows???. The list is incredibly long.

Wasn't the eye popping deliberate? I thought it was because the animation studio for the movie did a lot of kids cartoons that had that sort of sillyness in it, so they threw one in to make their mark.

Bast Wars, belive it or not. Carakters having pats of the chest changing sides, fingers diapering, wepones being changed one makes 2, hand designes changing. Just to mention a few. Cybertron having parts like armes merging with the chest.

^ Anyways... Yeah, some of them were unforgivable, like the costant Autobot symbols on Menasor. Hell, I swear, Carnage in C-Minor must've been the animated equivalent to a worker's strike.

Damolisher wrote:^ Anyways... Yeah, some of them were unforgivable, like the costant Autobot symbols on Menasor. Hell, I swear, Carnage in C-Minor must've been the animated equivalent to a worker's strike.

Well, Carnage in C-Minor was one of those episodes done by Akom. It was a rush-job, because Sunbow/Toei had fallen behind on schedule. Akom was run by Nelson Shin himself, so he could do these episodes very cheap. The people who worked on Carnage never worked on Transformers before, so they didn't know much of the details, and didn't have the time to catch up to do the episodes right.

Raymond T. wrote:Well, Carnage in C-Minor was one of those episodes done by Akom.

I think that's all you needed to say.

Uncrazzimatic wrote:

Raymond T. wrote:Well, Carnage in C-Minor was one of those episodes done by Akom.

I think that's all you needed to say.

People tend to bash the episode because overall it was bad. But it was the rushjob on it that was really bad.

The story itself is really a good one. It is hard to listen to since you have song and music and the background music on top of that. And the poor animation and production didn't help either. But the basic story is a race to gain (and regain) a certain power. A power that is strong when you are uniform, but falls apart when people don't/can't work together.
(Which is ironic considering how the episode was made).