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Articulated ROFT/DOTM Leader Class Optimus Prime Hands by U.F.O.

Postby El Duque » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:08 pm

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Postby Flux Convoy » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:16 pm

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Those are pretty slick and I am pretty tempted. I've got a Buster Prime who would look even better with these.
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Postby NamelessOne » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:28 am

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I have these already fitted to my Striker Prime - they're copies of what you can already get on Shapeways.

I'd be interested to know if they improved on the joints, but they are identical.
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Re: Articulated ROFT/DOTM Leader Class Optimus Prime Hands by U.F.O.

Postby daimchoc » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:20 am

Looks like that 3rd party has ripped off fakebusker83's design.

http://www.shapeways.com/model/397736/r ... ckles.html

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The U.F.O. 3rd party team, though, added a third joint for the tips of the fingers.
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Re: Articulated ROFT/DOTM Leader Class Optimus Prime Hands by U.F.O.

Postby daimchoc » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:24 pm

Just sharing this from fakebusker83:



Yup! And Daim, thank you so much for bringing it to my attention. I wouldn't have known about it until it's released.
For those interested, I'll copy my 'official statement' of the matter here:

"Ahh... so here it is.

Alright guys, so I'm just taking the opportunity to state here that I had nothing to do with this release, and it seems likely they are very inspired by my original design of Optimus knuckle hands.

I know many of you guys, and many of you guys know me, so I'm comfortable in sharing my thoughts on this business.

First and foremost, the customer deserves the very best. I believe only the best product deserves to sell, and I always try my very best to give the best of my ability for my Shapeways stuff. As several of you have put it, my hands are not designed to hold the Japan exclusive swords (I can't design for them if I don't have them) but they are capable of holding OP's buster rifle. They are also made to hold 5mm pegs as well.

On the bad side, my hands are subjected to the variances that come with 3D printing, and that's where most of the tolerance issues come in. So now, here's an alternative third party product that offers posability in all digits, a fold-out prickler, and ball-jointed wrists in molded ABS. Heck, if it were me I'll grab a few myself.

If you think X-TB's hands fit your needs and you trust their level of quality, by all means go ahead and grab a few. It's nothing personal and I don't mind it one bit.

BUT BUT BUT BUT.

I must admit I am perturbed that the design is more than a little inspired by what I did. Posable fingers have been done before, nothing original about that, but I can safely say I am the first to have thought up of the knuckle mechanism, the 'C' gap structure in the palm for holding weapons, among other little ideas. It saddens me that this company just took what I did and replicated it with no attribution at all. They may end up with a more reliable product (maybe?), but it's intellectually dishonest and disrespectful.

1. I will not be encouraging anyone to boycott anything. You guys are all discerning customers, and you will know which is the better product and go for it. But keep in mind Ariel Lemon started it all.

2. I will not stop creating stuff on Shapeways. I do these for the love of the brand and for the fandom, not for money (oh well, for some beer money :lol). I must admit this event has been discouraging for me, but on the bright side it was slightly flattering that someone actually cared to copy my stuff. What I will do is make my future designs harder to replicate conventionally, is all.

3. I love you guys. And I am hoping that you love me back and do this for me. Even though I am not encouraging anyone to boycott anything, if it is okay with you I want you guys to help me spread the word onto this vast Internet. Facebook, flickr, blogs, wherever.

"Ariel Lemon did it first. X-TB did it later."



You can't stop people from copying stuff, but you sure can help customers be aware of where the designs come from."

-Ariel Lemon



Also, here's the flickr post: http://www.flickr.com/photos/xtransbots ... 171054094/
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Postby mooncake623 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:10 pm

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hello,

Need some help here. apparently there seems to be a lot of different colors (shades of gray) for these hands.
This one seems to be the only one left that is not sold out at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=UFO10006&mode=retail

Does anyone know if this will match the DOTM AMAZON Jetwing prime?
Or should i look at other etailers for hands that says "light gray"?

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Postby Rated X » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:10 pm

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daimchoc wrote:Just sharing this from fakebusker83:



Yup! And Daim, thank you so much for bringing it to my attention. I wouldn't have known about it until it's released.
For those interested, I'll copy my 'official statement' of the matter here:

"Ahh... so here it is.

Alright guys, so I'm just taking the opportunity to state here that I had nothing to do with this release, and it seems likely they are very inspired by my original design of Optimus knuckle hands.

I know many of you guys, and many of you guys know me, so I'm comfortable in sharing my thoughts on this business.

First and foremost, the customer deserves the very best. I believe only the best product deserves to sell, and I always try my very best to give the best of my ability for my Shapeways stuff. As several of you have put it, my hands are not designed to hold the Japan exclusive swords (I can't design for them if I don't have them) but they are capable of holding OP's buster rifle. They are also made to hold 5mm pegs as well.

On the bad side, my hands are subjected to the variances that come with 3D printing, and that's where most of the tolerance issues come in. So now, here's an alternative third party product that offers posability in all digits, a fold-out prickler, and ball-jointed wrists in molded ABS. Heck, if it were me I'll grab a few myself.

If you think X-TB's hands fit your needs and you trust their level of quality, by all means go ahead and grab a few. It's nothing personal and I don't mind it one bit.

BUT BUT BUT BUT.

I must admit I am perturbed that the design is more than a little inspired by what I did. Posable fingers have been done before, nothing original about that, but I can safely say I am the first to have thought up of the knuckle mechanism, the 'C' gap structure in the palm for holding weapons, among other little ideas. It saddens me that this company just took what I did and replicated it with no attribution at all. They may end up with a more reliable product (maybe?), but it's intellectually dishonest and disrespectful.

1. I will not be encouraging anyone to boycott anything. You guys are all discerning customers, and you will know which is the better product and go for it. But keep in mind Ariel Lemon started it all.

2. I will not stop creating stuff on Shapeways. I do these for the love of the brand and for the fandom, not for money (oh well, for some beer money :lol). I must admit this event has been discouraging for me, but on the bright side it was slightly flattering that someone actually cared to copy my stuff. What I will do is make my future designs harder to replicate conventionally, is all.

3. I love you guys. And I am hoping that you love me back and do this for me. Even though I am not encouraging anyone to boycott anything, if it is okay with you I want you guys to help me spread the word onto this vast Internet. Facebook, flickr, blogs, wherever.

"Ariel Lemon did it first. X-TB did it later."



You can't stop people from copying stuff, but you sure can help customers be aware of where the designs come from."

-Ariel Lemon



Also, here's the flickr post: http://www.flickr.com/photos/xtransbots ... 171054094/



You gotta appreciate the guy’s sincerity, but there’s a ton of people out there who are not interested in Shapeways products because they target customizers more than collectors. Many people don’t want to get involved with sanding or painting. Not to mention moving parts with joints that have not had extensive quality control testing. 3rd parties are always going to capitalize on those “I wish it wasn’t Shapeways” collectors.
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