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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby Seibertron » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:54 am

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Seibertron wrote:Well that's awesome. Here's hoping for a Sunstorm, Rainmakers and a pair of generic seekers for a repaint set.

This might be the most used/repainted mold yet in Transformers history!


I wouldn't say they're used that much.

And if they are used that much, it is a pretty cool mold, in their defense.


They're definitely used that much. Check out the picture that I posted in my previous post.

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gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, considering the Botcon set, Hasbro and Takara releases... plus KO Toys Sunstorms, Rainmakers, Toxic Rainmakers, Clone Seeker, chrome versions... Yeah, this has to be the MOST used mold ever.

Can anyone confirm that? I'd also rule out flat reissues. They put out G1 Optimus prime every couple years. :-p Talking about repaints and redecos here.

Maybe Bruticus comes in a close second, maybe? Hmmmmm.


Bruticus doesn't come close (though it's in the top 10).

I own 20 official Hasbro and Takara Tomy uses of the Starscream/Ramjet mold. Would love to get Sunstorm out of all of this one day.

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If they had been really smart with this set, they would have done a cross set where it was Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp paired up with 3 new Seekers and a separate set with Ramjet, Dirge and Thrust along with Sunstorm and 2 others.


I can't help but think that Sunstorm would be a PERFECT choice for the Transformers Collectors' Club Subscription Service. Make it happen TCC!
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby kirbenvost » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:45 pm

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Stormrider wrote:Hasbro really has butchered the concept of collecting exclusives. What is the point for collectors to buy exclusives if similar ones will be released later?


You get them earlier I guess?

I dunno, I personally hate exclusives, it's just an excuse to charge three times the price for the same amount of plastic.

As for this set, it's still cool for those that want it. I definitely don't need it. Judging by the pic it looks like the original three are based on their Henkei paint jobs but without the chrome.
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby gothsaurus » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:27 pm

Yeah, losing the chrome is actually a HUGE plus IMHO. Not to mention show-accurate decos... I hated the lightening deco on Thrust.
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby RAcast » Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:21 pm

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So. Many. Seekers. xD I knew it'd been used a lot, but TWENTY times!? Wow! :shock:
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby Rated X » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:08 pm

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Owning about 33 versions of this mold (Hasbro,Takara,CHMS) I am a sucker for seekers. But Im not wasting $150-$200 on a set just to have the "no chrome" option as a varriant. If e-bay dealers break up the set, I might consider Thrust and Dirge if they dont have annoying graphics on the wings.
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby Rated X » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:31 pm

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Stormrider wrote:Hasbro really has butchered the concept of collecting exclusives. What is the point for collectors to buy exclusives if similar ones will be released later?



Well you exclusivly get to own it for at least two years before everyone else gets it.
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:39 pm

Seekers are the wrong toy to make exclucives of. At least of the main 6. Just release the main six at regular retail and be done with it.

Still, I think G2 Ramjet and AM Thundercracker worked out really well. I'd be on board for a Pretender Starscream variant (if taken literally the deco is pretty dissimilar to his regular one).The Rainmakers may make decent exclucives too. But the problem with them is that CHMS beat them to the ounch, so who'd want to pay exclucive prices for the same essential thing? I mean, other than me?
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby Flux Convoy » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:01 pm

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Start talking Sunstorm, the remaining Rainmakers and generic seekers. Otherwise, GTFO. We've had multiple opportunities for each seeker now. Time to make what hasn't been done already.
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby gavinfuzzy » Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:50 am

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Flux Convoy wrote:Start talking Sunstorm, the remaining Rainmakers and generic seekers. Otherwise, GTFO. We've had multiple opportunities for each seeker now. Time to make what hasn't been done already.
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That seems to be the exact point of the Asia premium line.

Slightly repainted Bruticus? Slightly chromey Magnus? Striker prime with buster's colours (Okay, this one's cool, just... expensive)?

Seems like they are just making minor repaints to the same exact character that has been previously released. But something like the seekers already have loads of releases, like you said, so I can't imagine this selling well. :BANG_HEAD:

They should just make Toxitron from RTS Prime... That way I'll actually buy something. :HEADHURTS:
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby gothsaurus » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:14 am

Putting out the full set of seekers should ALWAYS be the plan from the start. They can make an exclusive VS set to round out the less popular ones as a store exclusive ....or a full set like this one... OR just friggin put them out on the shelf.... but they can't just put out a couple of seekers and call it done.

So now, some five years later (?) - and after KOToys wiped the floor with them - you have to definitely admit they missed the boat. BUT this is nice for those who missed out getting a full set years ago It's a nice chance to complete the lineup in a nice neat, easy way. Kudos for that. :APPLAUSE: Finally.

And thinking about it, these ARE from HasbroAsia, right? It IS a 4th company. (Hasbro, Takara/Tomy, TFCC, HasbroAsia.) Each makes its own business plan, toy lines, exclusives, sculpts (at times)... It's clear why odd things like this happen, and why it's confusing to collectors. Each is thinking about its own market and what will sell. With the internet, we monitor all four companies and what they are doing overseas, and it looks like a big mess.

If we knew better what was going on in the 80s, we'd have pitched the same fits. Why did Canada get Diakrons in this color?! We didn't get a yellow Trailbreaker!? Peru colored minibots! Why did we get shafted??? And we've been waiting years for a red Tracks! Where is our Salt Man Z!

Rahahahah. :grin:
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby Breakdown 2099 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:46 am

And... I-)
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby gavinfuzzy » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:10 am

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gothsaurus wrote:And thinking about it, these ARE from HasbroAsia, right? It IS a 4th company. (Hasbro, Takara/Tomy, TFCC, HasbroAsia.) Each makes its own business plan, toy lines, exclusives, sculpts (at times)... It's clear why odd things like this happen, and why it's confusing to collectors. Each is thinking about its own market and what will sell. With the internet, we monitor all four companies and what they are doing overseas, and it looks like a big mess.



Wait, there's a Hasbro Asia? I know there's an asian branch... But I kinda doubt they PRODUCE the toys. This is from Takara, it appears... That's the logo on all their other exclusives.
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby gothsaurus » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:03 am

Yeah, I couldn't make out a logo right off. Nice job if you can!

And yeah, supposedly there's a separate company dealing with non-Japan-Asia - China, Singapore, etc. The GDO line was the first I've really heard anything about them doing their own series. Very odd.

Ah well. IF these are from Takara, guessing they won't be showing up at my local ToysRUs as I'd hoped. bummer.
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:13 pm

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You're both right.

There is both a Hasbro Asia (which is doing the Generations GDO figures) and an Asian market-exclusive line of TakaraTomy figures (which is what these Seekers are for).
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby gothsaurus » Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:03 am

Clearly, Sabrblade needs a new bio written with the function being "espionage". Clearly, you must be hanging out next to the water cooler at Takara reading a newspaper with two eye holes cut in it. ;-D

Thanks as always for the insight. Besides helping make sense of the (often contradictory) decisions made by the different companies, it also gives me a little more patience rolling with things as a fan. Cheers!
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby El Duque » Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:52 am

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Happy Friday morning everyone! To kick off the day we have some new info on the previously rumored Asian market exclusive Classics Seekers Set. The first of what we assume will be two sets is dubbed "Deluxe Seeker Set Ace", and features Starscream, Thundercracker, and Skywarp. The set will feature tweaked decos with metallic paint and come in premium packaging.

Check out the figures in the images mirrored from TransformersAsia.com below:

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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby Mechastrike » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:14 am

i need these. my classics Skywarp is getting lonely.

=P~ all three Seekers in one box.
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby Sodan-1 » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:44 am

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They do look pretty good, but not enough of a significant improvement for me to cough up for this mold for the....one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten: I don't know how many times. I've ran out of fingers.
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby Swindle01 » Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:34 am

it may just be me but i find myself really hating this mould now. It just doesnt work and hasnt held up very well to others such as classic prime+skyfire+sideswipe etc

The arms just dont work as the wings get in the way and the arms themselves cant do much because of the wings. The legs have limited movement and the figure cant even stand up that well

I keep expecting a 3rd party company to make a newer version of the seekers so they dont suck so much anymore. Prime+skyfire and afew others have stood the test of time while these guys just seem...i dunno...almost like Hasbro didnt give a crap as much. Same goes for astrotrain - hes a great figure but the 2 train bits on his arm annoy the crap outa me and it seems lazy they didnt do a solution to that problem
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby omega666 » Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:39 am

Wow! Selling all 3 seekers in one set? Who'd a thunk it?
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:42 am

I dunno, I think these figures hold up decently. The arms are fine, it's the null rays that really hinder the articulation. But they're starting to show their age with those hands.

This is great for late comers to the classics line. But I'm not one. Make Sunstorm and then we'll talk about me buying this mold again. Between regular releases and KOs I've gottent his mold tons of times.
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby MINDVVIPE » Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:53 am

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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby Kibble » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:11 am

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Swindle01 wrote:it may just be me but i find myself really hating this mould now. It just doesnt work and hasnt held up very well to others such as classic prime+skyfire+sideswipe etc

The arms just dont work as the wings get in the way and the arms themselves cant do much because of the wings. The legs have limited movement and the figure cant even stand up that well

I keep expecting a 3rd party company to make a newer version of the seekers so they dont suck so much anymore. Prime+skyfire and afew others have stood the test of time while these guys just seem...i dunno...almost like Hasbro didnt give a crap as much. Same goes for astrotrain - hes a great figure but the 2 train bits on his arm annoy the crap outa me and it seems lazy they didnt do a solution to that problem


Don't worry, now that these are getting their 50th release, you can expect a new, better mold to come out in the next year or so ala MP-10...

Although I don't understand your stroking of Classics Jet/Skyfire. That mold is totally half-assed. The legs suck and it doesn't pose for crap...nor does it look all very accurate in bot mode. The seeker mold is a bit overrated, but it does a much better job than Jet/Skyfire.
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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

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Re: Asian Excluive Classics Seekers.

Postby Gearslide » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:08 am

How has this mold not crumbled to dust with all of these seeker variants!?

There must be degradation somewhere in there.
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