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Re: Australian Toy Fair Images and Info

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:22 pm

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Wow that really irks me.


that's strange.

i'm not sure of laws about stuff like this, but is there anything you can do?


I know it sound poopy, but really what's Ryan supposed to do, file a lawsuit or C&D notice for Hasbro using photos he took of Hasbro products?
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Re: Australian Toy Fair Images and Info

Postby Seibertron » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:28 pm

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Seibertron wrote:Nice use of Seibertron.com's photos in this t-shirt ...

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Wow that really irks me.


And here are all of the images as well as links to the galleries from where those images came from ...

Twin Twist http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... ist/142/1/
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Cliffjumper http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... mper/32/1/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... r/32/1/20/

Scourge http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... rge/219/1/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /219/1/37/

Jetfire http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... ire/453/1/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /453/1/74/

Omega Supreme http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... eme/140/1/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /140/1/68/

G2 Optimus Prime http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... ime/337/1/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /337/1/19/

Brawn http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... awn/399/1/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /399/1/15/

Perceptor http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... tor/164/1/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /164/2/30/

Yellow Cliffjumper http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... er/1080/1/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1080/1/25/

Hound http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... nd/1670/1/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1670/1/82/

Bumblebee http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... ebee/30/1/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... e/30/1/11/

Prowl http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... owl/452/1/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /452/1/26/

Blitzwing http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... ing/158/1/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /158/1/40/

Ironhide http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... de/1324/1/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1324/1/37/

Brawl http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... wl/1279/1/
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Dirge http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... ge/1327/1/
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Galvatron http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... ron/442/1/
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Devastator http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... tor/139/1/
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Thrust http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... st/1328/1/
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Smokescreen http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... een/450/1/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... /450/1/22/

Soundwave http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... wave/21/1/
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Megatron http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... tron/35/1/
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Predaking http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... ing/427/1/
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Encore Skywarp http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... rp/1653/1/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1653/1/74/

Grimlock http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... ck/1789/1/
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Re: Australian Toy Fair Images and Info

Postby ausbot » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:15 pm

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If Hasbro is using his images for their products then they should give this site some form of official recognition.
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Re: Australian Toy Fair Images and Info

Postby T-Macksimus » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:13 pm

ausbot wrote:If Hasbro is using his images for their products then they should give this site some form of official recognition.


While they are rarely in any kind of position to give the site recognition or advertise it to the general public without making some kind of special, concerted effort, they do have folks (obviously) who are a presence on this site just the same way that IDW has some of their crew following the happenings on this site as well as Paramount from time to time.
The big problem is that Hasbro is a huge corporations with teams of lawyers who eat sites like this for breakfast and for whom conscience, respect, decency and morality never even enter their minds so pretty much the only recourse that Ryan has at this point that won't bankrupt him and lose him the site is to take it across the chin. Besides, there is also the question of whether this is even a Hasbro product. I'm saying this is fan made. Every single licensed Hasbro piece of apparel has their logo and copyright plainly placed in the lower right (as you're facing the product) corner of whatever picture is being used. There is nothing of the kind in the picture so I'm saying it's fan-made at which point this person better beg for mercy and start giving some recognition because Ryan will be in a position to nail their asses to the wall.
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Re: Australian Toy Fair Images and Info

Postby SFXPrime » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:36 pm

I really hope that is a leader class Evasion Optimus Prime. If it has the same level of transformation detail as the ROTF leader Prime did, i'm buying like three of them.
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Re: Australian Toy Fair Images and Info

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:46 pm

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SFXPrime wrote:I really hope that is a leader class Evasion Optimus Prime. If it has the same level of transformation detail as the ROTF leader Prime did, i'm buying like three of them.
No toy in this line will have the same level of transformation detail as the ROTF leader Prime. Doing so would miss the entire point of it.
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Re: Australian Toy Fair Images and Info

Postby Seibertron » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:00 pm

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T-Macksimus wrote:
ausbot wrote:If Hasbro is using his images for their products then they should give this site some form of official recognition.


While they are rarely in any kind of position to give the site recognition or advertise it to the general public without making some kind of special, concerted effort, they do have folks (obviously) who are a presence on this site just the same way that IDW has some of their crew following the happenings on this site as well as Paramount from time to time.
The big problem is that Hasbro is a huge corporations with teams of lawyers who eat sites like this for breakfast and for whom conscience, respect, decency and morality never even enter their minds so pretty much the only recourse that Ryan has at this point that won't bankrupt him and lose him the site is to take it across the chin. Besides, there is also the question of whether this is even a Hasbro product. I'm saying this is fan made. Every single licensed Hasbro piece of apparel has their logo and copyright plainly placed in the lower right (as you're facing the product) corner of whatever picture is being used. There is nothing of the kind in the picture so I'm saying it's fan-made at which point this person better beg for mercy and start giving some recognition because Ryan will be in a position to nail their asses to the wall.


Appreciate the support. Not looking to nail anyone's behinds to a wall, just would like after 14 years to be at a point where Hasbro can ask me for content and maybe they could send Seibertron.com some toys in advance for us to photograph for them and everyone else. That helps the marketing machine by building more hype for upcoming products. They get photos for their archive. You guys get pics in advance. Seibertron.com gets some extra traffic. Win-win situation.

It's not about who's right or wrong or anything legal-wise. It's just about professional and courteous conduct and respect. People at Hasbro know me, they know Seibertron, ... just odd that something would have gotten this far without some type of communication about it. Hasbro is a good company and I don't think any harm was intended.

Apparently the photos were used for the 2013 Transformers Retro Style Guide, which you can see on Hasbro designer Steven Lathrop's website at http://stevenlathrop.4ormat.com/457067-2013-transformers-retro-style-guide-art#

From what I have gathered, it sounds like quite a few images were archived in-house at Hasbro and someone removed the watermarks from the images. In come new people working on the brand, it's assumed that these archived images were photographed in-house, style guide project is created and launched, and the photos were supposedly used accidentally. It's been known for a while that Seibertron.com photos are used in-house at Hasbro and by various comic artists (the images show up periodically in the official powerpoint presentations shown at various conventions and even in at least one Million publishing book as reference material from Takara) but this is the first time I've seen my photos used at the retail level before (those shirts are available in Australia).
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Re: Australian Toy Fair Images and Info

Postby TimothyR » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:26 am

SFXPrime wrote:I really hope that is a leader class Evasion Optimus Prime. If it has the same level of transformation detail as the ROTF leader Prime did, i'm buying like three of them.


i just really hope that the paint job is more accurate. but being that the entire line is absolutely PLAGUED with just straight up wrong color choices.. i wouldn't be surprised if the leader class was some sort of dumb G2 homage.. even though it's a flat nose cab. at this point who knows what colors they're going to throw on these molds.

. and going by the voyager mold, which isn't all that bad, hopefully improvements will be made to fix some of the problems
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Re: Australian Toy Fair Images and Info

Postby battlecollective » Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:31 pm

SFXPrime wrote:I really hope that is a leader class Evasion Optimus Prime. If it has the same level of transformation detail as the ROTF leader Prime did, i'm buying like three of them.



The boxart indicates a leader class version of evasion mode optimus. The voyager version is already nice (I'm just not fond of the gaps behind the cab). I hope the leader class version deals with the gap issue, and I also hope it is close to the ROTF version in engineering ang aesthetics. I am not a fan of the newer, simpler leader class toys.


If it's a good toy, I'll definitely be getting it, but if it's simplistic, I'll get the voyager instead.
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