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i dunno... size-wise he seems ok, but visually he's much too rough and cluttered to fit in with the masterpiece figures (to me, at least), and his proportions aren't all that good either.

wilcosu35 wrote:i dunno... size-wise he seems ok, but visually he's much too rough and cluttered to fit in with the masterpiece figures (to me, at least), and his proportions aren't all that good either.

That's how i feel about this one.

I think the torso looks very clutterd and tbh a mess .

Lots more pics! BOOM!

My oh my that transformation looks complex.

Still, I'm loving the look of this.

The scale of both modes is excellent and could win me over , I love that he is the same size as the autobot cars in robot mode and and not a minibot , not sure what takara would do there ?

the bot mode though ? It looks like it has has too much detail unlike brawny who fits the mp aesthetic so well .

that pic were hes all folded out looks terrible reminds me of kronos.

This big scale is a pleasant surprise. Was expecting this toy to be Commander size. Love that it is Voyager-Ultra scale. Will definately consider buying this if the price isn't insanely high. Think a fair price these days to pay for a 3rd party Voyager-Ultra toys is around $70 to $100

Hoping this also gets retooled into other TF characters toys. It's a great design, with a nice big scale.

After second glancing the pics, It appears it's a Ultra-Leader tank mode that compacts down to a Voyager scale robot mode? Not sure how I feel about this. Would have preferred it not compact down and had a Ultra scale robot mode.

Still might buy it but the price will be a key factor. I'm simply not willing to pay over $100 for this toy. Think a fair price to pay is around $70 to $85 for this toy.

I see this written often in this forum, so I feel I need to point something out:

Scale and size are not synonyms, there is no Voyager/Ultra/Leader scale or scaled. There is a size.

Scale means the size of something in relation to something else. For instance a 1/24 scale model Ferrari is not the same size as a 1/24 scale Tank.

Voyager, Ultra and etc are size classes Hasbro introduced to have a set standard of how much materials they can put into a figure and still meet a set price point.

So this Warpath has a roughly Leader Class sized alt-mode, but a roughly Voyager sized bot-mode. HasTak have done similar figures in their official lines, Animated Voyager Bulkhead had a roughly Deluxe sized bot-mode due to his design and transformation scheme, while being just as big as any other Voyager in alt-mode. Animated Deluxe Lugnut's car-mode was just the same size as all other deluxe cars at the time, but due to the way he transformed his bot-mode was almost as tall as an Ultra Class figure.


Now back to the topic at hand. I have to say, I expected something fantastic from BadCube with Warpath, and I wasn't disappointed, this figure looks brilliant. The transformation impresses me the most. Seriously, he explodes to go from one mode to the other.
And what surprises me the most is, that it looks like he scales to MP-10 in both bot and alt-mode. Transforming this looks like all kinds of fun.

First, let me say that I completely agree with you on both the differences between scale and size as well as trying to shoehorn particular characters into a particular Hasbro size class. But I think there were a couple of inaccuracies in the examples. I just hope to help with clarification.

Dead Metal wrote:... HasTak have done similar figures in their official lines, Animated Voyager Bulkhead had a roughly Deluxe sized bot-mode due to his design and transformation scheme, while being just as big as any other Voyager in alt-mode.

This is a tough one for me to buy as Bulkhead's height was, maybe, deluxe sized. But his bulk was definitely more than deluxe.

Dead Metal wrote:Animated Deluxe Lugnut's car-mode was just the same size as all other deluxe cars at the time, but due to the way he transformed his bot-mode was almost as tall as an Ultra Class figure.

Here, did you mean Lockdown? Lugnut was the burly cargo plane that transformed into lovable hulkish brute. Lockdown was the Corvette Stingray looking merc that did manage to achieve wonderful new engineering heights.

All in all, I completely agree with your point. I do think it's silly to try to shoehorn figures into particular size categories, particularly when only looking at one dimension, like height. I much prefer to get some comparison pics with well known figures. Barring that, saying something is approximately Voyager sized can help until those pics come out.

While I like the Scale and sculpt of this toy. Just don't like how overly bulky the legs and arms are on Wardog.

Think Wardog might of had a well balanced robot mode. If the robot was made Ultra Scale. thus the bulk of the tank would of been better spread across the robot mode.

Just not feeling a Ultra-Leader Tank that compacts to a overly bulky Voyager Robot. Don't like how muck of the Tank is on the Robot feet and hanging off the forearms.

Each day I see more teasers of Wardog, and each day I feel more enthusiasm for getting this figure. I think this is the most exciting product BadCube has worked on to date. I still think the going price point for Brawny and Backland is over what I would want to pay, but would be a great price for Wardog.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Just not feeling a Ultra-Leader Tank that compacts to a overly bulky Voyager Robot. Don't like how muck of the Tank is on the Robot feet and hanging off the forearms.

That's fine, but have you seen the recent images replicating scenes from the cartoon? Warpath has a fairly large amount of his threads hanging off his forearms. This seems pretty accurate with the exception that the animation had the threads flush with the forearms, whereas the figure has them at a bit of a tilt. And I'm fine with the robot feet design, BadCube compacts a sufficient amount of transforming bits as possible to make a very sturdy base - which is likely necessary seeing as how bulky the torso of this figure is.

Agamemnon wrote:First, let me say that I completely agree with you on both the differences between scale and size as well as trying to shoehorn particular characters into a particular Hasbro size class. But I think there were a couple of inaccuracies in the examples. I just hope to help with clarification.

Dead Metal wrote:... HasTak have done similar figures in their official lines, Animated Voyager Bulkhead had a roughly Deluxe sized bot-mode due to his design and transformation scheme, while being just as big as any other Voyager in alt-mode.

This is a tough one for me to buy as Bulkhead's height was, maybe, deluxe sized. But his bulk was definitely more than deluxe.

Bingo, that was my point, in bot-mode he's as big as a Deluxe, but that's due to his design and transformation scheme. The point being, just because it's not as big as the rest of his size class, doesn't mean he's not part of that class.
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Dead Metal wrote:Animated Deluxe Lugnut's car-mode was just the same size as all other deluxe cars at the time, but due to the way he transformed his bot-mode was almost as tall as an Ultra Class figure.

Agamemnon wrote:Here, did you mean Lockdown? Lugnut was the burly cargo plane that transformed into lovable hulkish brute. Lockdown was the Corvette Stingray looking merc that did manage to achieve wonderful new engineering heights.

All in all, I completely agree with your point. I do think it's silly to try to shoehorn figures into particular size categories, particularly when only looking at one dimension, like height. I much prefer to get some comparison pics with well known figures. Barring that, saying something is approximately Voyager sized can help until those pics come out.

Yes I meant Lockdown, no idea how I managed to type out Lugnut.
I have no problem with saying something is about Voyager or Deluxe sized, the point is that people should use sized, not scaled since scaled implies something different.

nice digibash .

I can't get much more "want".

Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie!!!!

Still debating on this guy. Price wise I see him being at least $115 or so going by Brawny's $90 price tag.

Yeah.....that red looks gorgeous on that tank.

not G1 enough. his legs should be fused together.

GodBammit.
I'm not much of a Warpath guy, but this looks really great.

BadCube OTS-04 WARDOG

Size:

Robot 17cm

Tank 18 x 8 x 7cm

Prepare to be amazed... From Robot to Tank, it's sized well with other MP scaled figures.

Mass shifting anyone?

Item Features:

- Robot mode is scaled to MP car robot height.

- Tank mode is scaled to MP semi-tractor size.

- Huge mass differences in scale, between both modes

- More joints articulation for better pose-ability

- In scale with previous items such as Brawny and Backland.

- Thicker armor (plastic) than Brawny and Backland

Test shot photo only, final color may vary



Bonus:

-to be announced

tank you