God Thundercracker wrote:Batman vs. Hal in a fight to the DEATH. And remember, after GL: Rebirth, Hal no longer has a weakness against yellow. Who survives?
Inferno Prime wrote:Green Lantern wins very, very easily.
Batman's anti green lantern plan involves jumping him while he's sleeping.
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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:God Thundercracker wrote:Batman vs. Hal in a fight to the DEATH. And remember, after GL: Rebirth, Hal no longer has a weakness against yellow. Who survives?
A GL ring hasnt had the yellow weakness for a while now.
But still I give it to bats.Inferno Prime wrote:Green Lantern wins very, very easily.
Batman's anti green lantern plan involves jumping him while he's sleeping.
I'm sure thats only one of his plans.
God Thundercracker wrote:Um, explain to me exactly how Batman could beat Hal Jordan, especially if he no longer has a weakness to yellow.
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God Thundercracker wrote:So Batman punched Hal. Hal did the same thing to Batman in GL: Rebirth.
God Thundercracker wrote: And Hal is a good enough tactician to beat Sinestro, who has a yellow power ring and is a master strategist, time and again.
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Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Hal Jordan wins. This is a guy who keeps an arsenal of tools comparable and even better than that of Batman on his fist. A 24-hour charge is enough to take down Superman, Batman stands no chance, it doesn't matter how smart he is.
Shadowman wrote:Hal Jordan wins. This is a guy who keeps an arsenal of tools comparable and even better than that of Batman on his fist. A 24-hour charge is enough to take down Superman, Batman stands no chance, it doesn't matter how smart he is.
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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Shadowman wrote:Hal Jordan wins. This is a guy who keeps an arsenal of tools comparable and even better than that of Batman on his fist. A 24-hour charge is enough to take down Superman, Batman stands no chance, it doesn't matter how smart he is.
The only way Hal can win is if he see's it coming.
And as the pics proved Batman can "and did" lay the smack down.
And Batman was holding his punch there.
If Batman wanted to knock Hal out he could have and the simple fact is that if Hal gets ko'ed he ring cant help him.
It really doent matter what weapons Hal can make out of the ring or how much of a charge it has.....if Batman were going to fight Hal he would sneak up on him either in disguise or from a blind spot and knock him out with one hit.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Again, you're assuming that a GL can't wrap his shield around his whole body.
Shadowman wrote: And batman is strong--for a human. He can hold his own against normal people, but against most Superhumans, his fist really doesn't cut it, which is why most people are amazed when I tell them Batman beat Superman.
And while Hal is not technically a superhuman, his ring does grant him more than enough power to take down Batman.
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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Fight over in one hit.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:That's true, but it depends on who actually delivers that hit. In the time Batman takes to throw that punch (Of course, this is assuming he pulls his fist back for a hook or a jab) Hal could put up his shield, block, and then vaporize Batman.
Shadowman wrote:Of course, if Batman DOES get the hit, it'd have to be one HELL of a punch to KO a military man in one shot. And if it doesn't KO Hal, then Hal can simply float away a short distance, then pummel Batman from there.
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Senor Hugo wrote:Well, those photos are kind of biased. Well at least the one of Batman decking Hal anyway.
Senor Hugo wrote:Hal knew that one was coming, considering he planted a nice left hook on Batman during rebirth, so that was a kind of freebie.
Senor Hugo wrote:Had Hal been expecting danger, the ring would have already had the shield up around him.
Senor Hugo wrote:Plus Hal was only air-force, he was trained in combat,
Senor Hugo wrote:So like Sto said, the only way Batman would win is if he caught Hal off guard. Which isn't often.
Senor Hugo wrote:Hal may be cocky, but he isn't stupid.
Senor Hugo wrote:Not to mention Hal isn't phased by Batman's usual brooding "criminals are a cowardly and superstitious lot" bit. Since it's against the very nature of the Green Lanterns.
Senor Hugo wrote:Senor Hugo wrote:No matter how much you dislike Hal Jordan, you have to admit, the only way Batman could win, is if he caught Hal completely off-guard.
Batman has the patience and planning to wait for that one moment he needs to take down Hal.
However, Hal also is a quick thinker and able to adapt about as quickly as Batman can when things don't go as planned.
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Inferno Prime wrote:So you're saying Batman would win if hal didn't know they were fighting? Well sure, I could drop Mike Tyson if he didn't know we fighting and I got the drop on him.
You want batman to win so you stack all the odds in his favour.
Inferno Prime wrote:Place them 10ft from each other and have them fight, batman goes down in the first second/
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Batman is capable of ducking many of the slandered weapons Hal generates with his ring.
Inferno Prime wrote:I've seen Batman dropped with ease by numerous super beings of green lanterns level. Superman, Mongul, Zoom they've all shown Batman who's boss.
We've seen superman bust into the bat cave beat the crap out of him then fly off. Where was batmans plan there? Or during the three times Superman has beat him during Superman/batman.Batman is capable of ducking many of the slandered weapons Hal generates with his ring.
You're being rediculous now. Green lantern beams can be faster than light when the user wants them to be. Hal's casually caught zoom in a construct, someone trillions of times faster than batman. He could assemble a model of arkham to trap batman in if he wanted.
He could make a scale replica of earth and teleport batman there.
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I can agree with most of what you said but.....Senor Hugo wrote:Well, those photos are kind of biased. Well at least the one of Batman decking Hal anyway.
I dont see how they were "biased" seeing as I only provided them to prove "Hal" can be punched.Senor Hugo wrote:Hal knew that one was coming, considering he planted a nice left hook on Batman during rebirth, so that was a kind of freebie.
BS.
I've read that book over and over again and Hal did not see it coming.
If Hal saw it coming and allowed for it to happen his shields wouldnt have kicked in after the punch.
Or after the "Head bump" in the Bat-mobileSenor Hugo wrote:Had Hal been expecting danger, the ring would have already had the shield up around him.
Exactly he was not expecting danger nor was he expecting a punch at that moment.
That punch was no "Freebie".Senor Hugo wrote:Plus Hal was only air-force, he was trained in combat,
That was a bit confusing.
But as far as I know the "Combat" part of Hals past has been "retconed" out.Senor Hugo wrote:So like Sto said, the only way Batman would win is if he caught Hal off guard. Which isn't often.
Batman caught him off guard twice in that same issue just minutes from each other if I remember correctly.
So I would say it happens "often enough".Senor Hugo wrote:Hal may be cocky, but he isn't stupid.
Debatable......Hal has been a Drunk driver, a Bigot and a Pedophile in the past.......I call all of that "Stupid".Senor Hugo wrote:Not to mention Hal isn't phased by Batman's usual brooding "criminals are a cowardly and superstitious lot" bit. Since it's against the very nature of the Green Lanterns.
This is very true.....Hal is not afraid of Bats.Senor Hugo wrote:Senor Hugo wrote:No matter how much you dislike Hal Jordan, you have to admit, the only way Batman could win, is if he caught Hal completely off-guard.
Batman has the patience and planning to wait for that one moment he needs to take down Hal.
However, Hal also is a quick thinker and able to adapt about as quickly as Batman can when things don't go as planned.
All true also....If this was a fight that was announced to both participants then Hal has a 70% chance of winning.
I say 70% because I'm sure Bats has a few tricks he could use to slow Hal down and "MAYBE" win.
But lets face it, this wouldnt be a fight that Hal would be expecting.No fight of this type ever is.
Hal doesnt have a plan in the waiting.
Batman would either just catch him "off guard" while pretending to work with him as he did before or Batman ,in disguise, would just walk up to him on the street and knock him out or punch him and slip off the ring.
Batman is a well trained "pick pocket".
Inferno Prime wrote:I've seen Batman dropped with ease by numerous super beings of green lanterns level. Superman, Mongul, Zoom they've all shown Batman who's boss.
Inferno Prime wrote:
We've seen superman bust into the bat cave beat the crap out of him then fly off. Where was batmans plan there?
Inferno Prime wrote: Or during the three times Superman has beat him during Superman/batman.
Inferno Prime wrote:You're being rediculous now.
Inferno Prime wrote: Green lantern beams can be faster than light when the user wants them to be.
Inferno Prime wrote: Hal's casually caught zoom in a construct, someone trillions of times faster than batman. He could assemble a model of arkham to trap batman in if he wanted.
He could make a scale replica of earth and teleport batman there.
Senor Hugo wrote:Now, this is nobody being a fanboy because we want Batman to win. I'm a fan of Green Lantern, a huge fan. However I don't lend my fandom blind me to logic
Senor Hugo wrote:Batman wins if he catches Hal of guard. And lets face it, after the whole Parallax bit, you don't think Batman wouldn't have a plan already in his head on how to deal with Hal, or any GL who goes rogue?
God Thundercracker wrote:Hal isn't a pedophile, Batman is the pedophile. What do you think he was doing with all three Robins? No wonder Jason Todd is so messed up.
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Batman has has avoided Darksides "Omega Beams" as well as attacks from the Sinestro corps.....whos attacks are as fast as a GL and were intended to be lethal.
And as you can see in the most recently completed arc in Supman/Batman Bats has a hudge amount of kryptonite stashed under the cave......thats part of is plan.
And as you can see in the most recently completed arc in Supman/Batman Bats has a hudge amount of kryptonite stashed under the cave......thats part of is plan.
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Inferno Prime wrote:
Mixing cannon here. Darkseid killed batman witLh Omega beams in rock of ages. When they fought during Superman/Batman darkseid never thought of using them because loeb was writing.
JLU is not canon.
Inferno Prime wrote:Public Enemies: a future Superman turns up and owns batman and has a slight upperhand against Superman.
Absolute Power: Batman possesed by Krytonite man. Superman drops him using preasure point strikes
The Enemies Among Us: After kryptonite fails to stop a mind controlled superman he infects himself with the black rock which snaps superman out of his trance. Superman proceeds to beat up the enhanced Batman
Torment: Another mind control driven ass beating.
Inferno Prime wrote:Lets hope it works better than that building sized spaceship made of Kryptonite lex used on superman two years back. Or a kryptonite enhanced doomsday.
Inferno Prime wrote:Batman can beat hal if he gets him by suprise with lots of planning, but not in a fair fight.
Psycho Warrior wrote:And as for those pictures posted above, Hal never had his shields up and wasn't expecting to fight so those are actually all cheap first shots.
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