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Postby Gameovermus Prime » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:54 pm

So, does anyone here play this? My soldier name is CptnCharisma if you want to add me. As of tonight I'm a Master Corporal Silver who mostly plays Support with a little bit of Assault.
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Postby Air Commander Starscream » Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:46 pm

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I was disapointed there was no single player at all. Don't get me wrong I like online play...but a single player game would have been very nice.
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Postby Gameovermus Prime » Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:59 pm

It's a multiplayer game, it's not designed for play on your own.
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Postby Shadowman » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:02 pm

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Gameovermus Prime wrote:It's a multiplayer game, it's not designed for play on your own.


Do you realize some people don't WANT a multi-player-exclusive game? Some people (Myself included) prefer a Single Player Campaign.

Hell, that's the only reason I've bought any game ever. Multi-player is only to sweeten the deal.
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Postby Gameovermus Prime » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:37 pm

Shadowman wrote:
Gameovermus Prime wrote:It's a multiplayer game, it's not designed for play on your own.


Do you realize some people don't WANT a multi-player-exclusive game? Some people (Myself included) prefer a Single Player Campaign.

Hell, that's the only reason I've bought any game ever. Multi-player is only to sweeten the deal.


And you are aware that the opposite opinion exists, yes? Otherwise, how can you account for the success of Counter-Strike, World of Warcraft, EVE and Battlefield? What about Halo 2, which remained the most popular Xbox game until the release of Gears of War (a game developed by a company known for their multiplayer)? What about the success of eSports, CAL/CPL or Major League Gaming?

I like to play against my friends, and in the case of Counter-Strike play at a semi-pro level against good players. Story doesn't botehr me as much beacuse the gamers I fraternize with, we each have our own warstories. Whether it's an ace against a pro team in CS, wrecking a chopper carrying seven people with an escape pod in 2142 or storming the Carentan House of House Guns (tm UL Games Society 2003), there's always something to tell.
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Postby Shadowman » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:40 pm

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Gameovermus Prime wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
Gameovermus Prime wrote:It's a multiplayer game, it's not designed for play on your own.


Do you realize some people don't WANT a multi-player-exclusive game? Some people (Myself included) prefer a Single Player Campaign.

Hell, that's the only reason I've bought any game ever. Multi-player is only to sweeten the deal.


And you are aware that the opposite opinion exists, yes? Otherwise, how can you account for the success of Counter-Strike, World of Warcraft, EVE and Battlefield? What about Halo 2, which remained the most popular Xbox game until the release of Gears of War (a game developed by a company known for their multiplayer)? What about the success of eSports, CAL/CPL or Major League Gaming?

I like to play against my friends, and in the case of Counter-Strike play at a semi-pro level against good players. Story doesn't botehr me as much beacuse the gamers I fraternize with, we each have our own warstories. Whether it's an ace against a pro team in CS, wrecking a chopper carrying seven people with an escape pod in 2142 or storming the Carentan House of House Guns (tm UL Games Society 2003), there's always something to tell.


Congratulations, you missed the entire point of my post. :APPLAUSE:

I said some people, I never said all people. If you were to make a game that is multi-player only, you'd be alienating a load of people, like myself.

And I play Exteel, which happens to be mutli-player only. Do I think it could do with a single player campaign? Why, yes, I do, but they never asked for my opinion, did they?

EDIT: And I bought Halo 2 specifically for the story. :wink:
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Postby Gameovermus Prime » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:56 pm

No, I saw the point of your post quite well. And since you love your emoticons, here's one to describe every post you've ever made:

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And I bought Halo 2 specifically for the story.


Yeah, what a great story. It's inspired me to change the way I write. What I mean is....
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Postby Shadowman » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:01 pm

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Gameovermus Prime wrote:No, I saw the point of your post quite well. And since you love your emoticons, here's one to describe every post you've ever made:

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Hoho! Funny. You know who'd love to see this? The mods.

EDIT: I seem to keep forgetting that PMs are down. Oh, well.

Gameovermus Prime wrote:
And I bought Halo 2 specifically for the story.


Yeah, what a great story. It's inspired me to change the way I write. What I mean is....


...What do you mean? You kinda trailed off there, an odd sort of thing to do with text.
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Postby Air Commander Starscream » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:47 pm

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Alright guys lets cool it down. There are people who like Multiplayer games and those of us who enjoy the single player games. No need to jump on each other, you both can have a opinion which is what Shadow was trying to get at.

MMORPG (or whatever) and other online games are indeed popular games, but like Shadowman I like to play a game bymself first. I use to do a lot of X box live and I loved to play with my friends, but I got kind of sick and tired of dealing with all the 12 year old ****** who talk endless $hit to you. Therefor I really only played Xbox live with my friends from work.

Multiplayer is a addon IMO, and BF 2142 being multiplayer exlcusive shyed me away from it. :oops:
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Postby Gameovermus Prime » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:10 pm

Point taken. I was making a point about game design. The BF series has maps which are quite different from your average single player FPS. Something like Doom 3 as an example, is corridor based and based on a linear progression, from levels to weapons. For example, you go from the pisol, to the shotgun, to the SMG. The BF unlock system, in my opinion, works better because it has four classes which are balanced both in a team sense and in a PVP sense. Assault is built for run-and-gun (dishes it out with SMG/attachmens and heals with defibs), recon is a mix of BF2 sniper and special forces, engineer has anti-tank, vehicles and mines and my class support helps out with ammo drops, sentry guns, shielding and heartbeat sensors.

One thing though Shadowman. Drop your current demeanor if you can't take a retort. You took a simple point awfully personally there. I wasn't flaming or trolling in my reply to ACS so I can't see what I was doing wrong.
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Postby Shadowman » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:14 pm

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Gameovermus Prime wrote:One thing though Shadowman. Drop your current demeanor if you can't take a retort. You took a simple point awfully personally there. I wasn't flaming or trolling in my reply to ACS so I can't see what I was doing wrong.


I see nothing being taken personally. I was pointing out that some people have different opinions of games.
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Postby Air Commander Starscream » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:39 pm

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I guess I just kind of wanted BF2142 to be like Unreal Torunament where the game was really meant for Online play but you could still run around and do each type of game play against various difficulty level of bots. Like in UT you could get some training before going straight online.

One game I did play Multiplayer only was Diablo 2. I went straight to online play and played the game in open rooms going through the campaign and sometimes meeting up with others to help in quests. That was really fun to me, I rarely even touched the single player part.
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Postby Gameovermus Prime » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:48 pm

You can do that, but it's limited. It's worth bearing in mind that each BF2 and 2142 map has three versions scaled for the type of server (16, 32 or 64 players).

Ultimately though the only way you will ever get good at any multiplayer-based game is to put in the hours. It took me months to get to level of CS:S I'm at now (I consider myself good, but not great), but that's to be expected when a dedicated player base has been playing the game and its' derivatives for 8 years. You WILL get better if you play for longer, just don't expect it to be easy.

Oh, and for the love of God, don't join random games on XBox Live. It'll put you off multiplayer for life.
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Postby Air Commander Starscream » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:01 pm

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Gameovermus Prime wrote:Oh, and for the love of God, don't join random games on XBox Live. It'll put you off multiplayer for life.


Thats what has probably done it for me. I consider myself a pretty good Halo Player, i dont play it for 9 hours a day so im not like super hardcore player. But just going on those random games and hearing all these people jsut talk so much damn smack has probably turned me off to wanting to play online. It's not that I can't handle criticisim and dumb asses, it just gets old.
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