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I'm probably one of the extreme few adult collectors who doesn't own or want any of the G1 reissues.

I grew up in the 80's during the TF boom, but looking at the G1 toys now, they just don't appeal to me half as much as the much more articulated and advanced Generations and MP toys.

But if I were to ever want a G1 toy, it'd be Optimus and him alone. And it would be the Takara Tomy version, not the Hasbro one with the neutered smokestacks.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'm probably one of the extreme few adult collectors who doesn't own or want any of the G1 reissues.

I grew up in the 80's during the TF boom, but looking at the G1 toys now, they just don't appeal to me half as much as the much more articulated and advanced Generations and MP toys.

But if I were to ever want a G1 toy, it'd be Optimus and him alone. And it would be the Takara Tomy version, not the Hasbro one with the neutered smokestacks.

Actually,I am the complete opposite. While I did also grow up in the 80s and loved anything that was a transforming toy, the Takara Tomy version of the reissues are what got me into the idea of collecting Cybertron Commanders (3) and certain Destrons (2) for my core collection.

That, and I am disputing if I should seek out a Convoy. Because while he is a Supreme Commander, as well as one from the 1985-1987 range I am aiming at, he is just one of those characters I feel conflicted about.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:There is a reason why I am trying to stick with Takara/Takara Tomy, (...) when they debuted their Encore line, they made it the way it was made... With a few minor improvements. This version has me feel like safety regulations are more important than the adult fanbase it is made for.

So I am passing on both, but recommending Soundwave on grounds that he doesn't have any modifications that would make him look weird (...)

Just pointing out that not only the USA G1 Soundwave have his missile launcher deactivated (dont change the look but it kinda suck) He have that double-chest cassette compartment to accomodate his two cassettes minions at the same time. It dont really look bad, but it's not the same as the original.

Personally, I kinda like that bigger chest. It make Soundwave look less flat and more beefy. Unfortunately, my Laserbeak dont transform completely flat so him and Ravage cannot go inside at the same time.

Oh well, I'm still glad to have got that reissue in that trade. If I count everything, buying the toy he wanted (KO Battle Tanker), plus paying the shipping so I receive the KO, then, paying the shipping so I can send it to him, it ammounted me at around 64$ total. Not too shabby considering that Soundwave reeisue was going for more than 100$ not just a few weeks ago. The inportant thing is, I'm happy I got my Soundwave and my trade partner is very glad of his KO Battle Tanker. So glad, that I may buy one for myself.

The good and bad thing about these reissue, depending on what side of the fence you are on, is that they will become cheaper on Ebay and such. This will give that change to those who still dont have these molds to buy them at prices that will not make their wallets cry for mercy.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'm probably one of the extreme few adult collectors who doesn't own or want any of the G1 reissues.

I grew up in the 80's during the TF boom, but looking at the G1 toys now, they just don't appeal to me half as much as the much more articulated and advanced Generations and MP toys.

But if I were to ever want a G1 toy, it'd be Optimus and him alone. And it would be the Takara Tomy version, not the Hasbro one with the neutered smokestacks.

Optimus Prime with his trailer is one of the BEST G1 toy ever. Die cast parts, rubber tires, lots of features... and Decently articulated! Yes, articulations in a G1! He's sure not a brick.

That's my Optimus right there. It was the 25th anniversary reissue with trailer and the voicebox. Yes, it did have the short smokestacks. I just had to order a long pair made out of DIECAST instead of plastic for just under 10$. Modding him was a pain because inside thse arms is full of gears and springs! the complexity and engeneering was marvelously baffling. Way more complex than your good old balljoint.
Anyway, even if you dont like G1, it's your moral duty as a TF collector to at least have a complete G1 Optimus Prime. He's well worth your money. If you dont want to buy separate smokestacks and mod your reeisue, either you pay a lot to have a Takara, or you try to get a vintage one for cheap.
Got get him, he's well worth it, no matter what edition he is.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:(...)
That, and I am disputing if I should seek out a Convoy. Because while he is a Supreme Commander, as well as one from the 1985-1987 range I am aiming at, he is just one of those characters I feel conflicted about.

Why are you "conflicted" about Optimus Prime? Are you trying to be blasphemous?! You cannot be conflicted about our lord who died many times for our sins! Get a G1 Optimus Prime. Now. And save your soul!

Kanrabat you kill me.

At KMax, again if you do want one, I'd advise you to score an Encore. Aside from the smokestacks mod that Kanrabat mentioned ( ordered a pair for my TAU re-issue UM nearly 10 years ago ), this version (which I hope is better than the 25th anniversary version ...cruddy plastic materials and colors) also has that overly long missiles for his combat deck and no spring powered launcher.

I wouldn't put it past Hasbro to release another "blue" Roller and a malnourished ion rifle.

Random question, but do the commemorative and encore toys have the same die-cast parts as the 80's guys? I ask because someone gave me what I think is G2 Prime and Starscream, and they seem to be all plastic

You've convinced me, Kanrabat. I just got flashbacks of being at the toy department with my late parents, salivating over a G1 OP, and knowing we couldn't afford one back then (it was priced at 90.00 local currency, which was A LOT back in the 80's for us).

If I see one at the hobby store going for a decent price, he's coming home with me.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:You've convinced me, Kanrabat. I just got flashbacks of being at the toy department with my late parents, salivating over a G1 OP, and knowing we couldn't afford one back then (it was priced at 90.00 local currency, which was A LOT back in the 80's for us).

If I see one at the hobby store going for a decent price, he's coming home with me.

Glad to see that! At worst, bid on a vintage one on Ebay. With all the times it got reisued, the price should be relatively reasonable and you'll have the "real" one from the mid-1980's.
Good luck finding him! I swear you will never regret it.

zappatton2 wrote:Random question, but do the commemorative and encore toys have the same die-cast parts as the 80's guys? I ask because someone gave me what I think is G2 Prime and Starscream, and they seem to be all plastic

As far as I know for Optimus Prime, it have the same ammount of diecast in the same parts. The only difference are the missile launchers are powered down and are now extra long while OP's smokestacks got shortened.

If you dont have him, just get him when he's available. Then, like I said before, order a set of metal long smokestacks from Hong-Kong and start modding!

lol wut???

I'm perfectly happy with my blue windshield new year prime.
But I don't have a Soundwave, only a Soundblaster reissue.
I think I'll get him if he's sold for cheap.
There is the Encore set, and a hasbro reissue a few years ago.

They could've picked better characters. How about... characters that
have not been reissued yet?

Silly me, that's not a very good idea