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Re: Generations 2013 Voyager Series 03 - Set of Blitzwing & Springer

Postby RAcast » Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:44 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Are these physically a set, as in two toys in a box, or you need to buy them both from the store?

Either way, this is getting to be an expensive but pleasantly fun year for me. Fortunately, I'm able to save quite a bit from skipping the Beast Hunters line.

Glad I'm a frequent customer of my local hobby store; just have to text the owner and he'll reserve a set of these for me.

They're just in the same wave, not a set. :)
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Re: Generations 2013 Voyager Series 03 - Set of Blitzwing & Springer

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:11 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Are these physically a set, as in two toys in a box, or you need to buy them both from the store?

Either way, this is getting to be an expensive but pleasantly fun year for me. Fortunately, I'm able to save quite a bit from skipping the Beast Hunters line.

Glad I'm a frequent customer of my local hobby store; just have to text the owner and he'll reserve a set of these for me.

They're just in the same wave, not a set. :)


Thanks for the explanation! The title was kind of misleading. Seriously looking forward to adding these two to my display shelf, especially Springer.
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby Rated X » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:21 am

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Blitzwing/Springer pre-ordered. It's a damn shame when it's cheaper to buy figures online than to buy them in retail stores. Factoring in gas prices and the Pile of Loot feature, buying these from BBTS is cheaper than getting them from my local Wal-Mart. I might as well be living in BFE. Living in Miami used to be an advantage as I never needed to go online to buy Hasbro stuff. But now theres no savings in "hunting" these days.
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby Maxman » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:23 am

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The legend figures look somewhat small in the photos. They are deluxe class aint they? Or did I dream that?
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby Va'al » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:58 am

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Maxman wrote:The legend figures look somewhat small in the photos. They are deluxe class aint they? Or did I dream that?


They're supposed to be Scout/Commander size, as far as I remember. :-?
With the targetmasters around Legends/Legion size.
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby DrRX8 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:36 am

Just Pre-ordered thru TFS.

Its funny how I picked up grimlock and blaster at TRU for $55 and my order at TFS was about $57 incl shipping. Looks like preordering is the way to go these days with the high gas prices.

I cant wait for Springer!
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby mooncake623 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:16 am

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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby GuyIncognito » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:35 am

Va'al wrote:
Maxman wrote:The legend figures look somewhat small in the photos. They are deluxe class aint they? Or did I dream that?


They're supposed to be Scout/Commander size, as far as I remember. :-?
With the targetmasters around Legends/Legion size.


I think the OP and BB figures are a little smaller than traditional Scouts/Commanders, and the smaller ones appear to be closer to Mini-con size than Legend/Legion size. Of course we're all just speculating since the pics don't provide any scale, but just judging by the simplicity of the smaller figures, they look more like Minicons than Legends, and the larger figures don't appear to have as much detail or articulation as Commanders/Scouts typically do.

Also, if these sets included a Commander-scale figure (typically $10) AND a Legion-scale figure (typically $6), they wouldn't be selling them for $10-$11 each. My guess is the larger figures are somewhere between Legend and Scout size and the smaller figures are Minicon size.
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby RiddlerJ » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:51 am

Yes, get these guys out.

I'm sick of waiting a year for each figure to become available.


Slight trivia. On the old G1 cartoon Blitzwing was the only one to recognize the Quintissons and now all his incarnations are face swappers themselves.
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby GuyIncognito » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:24 am

I preordered the Triplechangers. I want those badly enough that I'm willing to pay a few extra bucks and NOT willing to drive all over town hoping to find them.

I want the Generations Legends too, but I have a feeling they'll be easy to find in stores.
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:57 am

Preordered the triple changers as well. Toys R Us hasn't been reliable in ages. It's best to preorder figures you really want.
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby Doubledealer93 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:58 am

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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby kirbenvost » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:31 am

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Doubledealer93 wrote:first pay check im preordering blitzwing and springer.


BBTS doesn't take payment until the product is in stock. :)

Preordered the triple changers myself. Availability in Canada is even worse than it is for you guys and with our higher retail prices and sales tax it works out to about the same once you figure in shipping and customs. I'd rather have the peace of mind of knowing I can actually get these.
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby Mkall » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:44 am

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Like the others I've preordered Springer and Blitzwing. I want Storm Razer too, but I refuse to buy him with 2 other figures whom I don't want. I think BBTS is seeing that, hence why they don't seem to be offering Prime Deluxe figures separately right now.
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby GuyIncognito » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:28 pm

Mkall wrote:Like the others I've preordered Springer and Blitzwing. I want Storm Razer too, but I refuse to buy him with 2 other figures whom I don't want. I think BBTS is seeing that, hence why they don't seem to be offering Prime Deluxe figures separately right now.


I expect they'll start breaking up the cases and selling them individually, priced according to the level of demand.
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:42 pm

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RiddlerJ wrote:Slight trivia. On the old G1 cartoon Blitzwing was the only one to recognize the Quintissons and now all his incarnations are face swappers themselves.


Interesting trivia there!

Personally, I'd prefer if they didn't include that gimmick. IMO the overall head sculpt almost always suffers when you implement face-swapping--V1 MP Seekers had rather flat faces due to their ability to flip face-plates for different expressions.

While I don't mind it on the MP seekers since it adds display value and character, the faces on Blitzwing are too reminiscent of his TFA incarnation, which IMO, feel very out of place with his G1 design. While we've only seen his normal and "icy" faces, the icy one looks too TFA for my tastes. Also, his normal face has the visor too low, leaving a gap between it and the rim of his "helmet."

In any case, G1 Blitzwing never had this feature, so I personally think it's unnecessary.

That said, maybe the kids will love it. Gotta keep reminding myself it's a kid's toy line, not MP. :grin:

TL;DR, not a fan of his 3-face gimmick because the icy face reminds me too much of his TFA incarnation and creates problems with face proportions, and looks out of place on his neo-G1 toy.
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby Arctorro » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:45 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Personally, I'd prefer if they didn't include that gimmick. IMO the overall head sculpt almost always suffers when you implement face-swapping--V1 MP Seekers had rather flat faces due to their ability to flip face-plates for different expressions.

While I don't mind it on the MP seekers since it adds display value and character, the faces on Blitzwing are too reminiscent of his TFA incarnation, which IMO, feel very out of place with his G1 design. While we've only seen his normal and "icy" faces, the icy one looks too TFA for my tastes. Also, his normal face has the visor too low, leaving a gap between it and the rim of his "helmet."

In any case, G1 Blitzwing never had this feature, so I personally think it's unnecessary.

That said, maybe the kids will love it. Gotta keep reminding myself it's a kid's toy line, not MP. :grin:

TL;DR, not a fan of his 3-face gimmick because the icy face reminds me too much of his TFA incarnation and creates problems with face proportions, and looks out of place on his neo-G1 toy.

I'm not a kid and I love both this 3 face gimmick and Animated!

Btw, G1 has nothing to do with this toy, are you channeling X? :P :lol:
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:23 pm

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Arctorro wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Personally, I'd prefer if they didn't include that gimmick. IMO the overall head sculpt almost always suffers when you implement face-swapping--V1 MP Seekers had rather flat faces due to their ability to flip face-plates for different expressions.

While I don't mind it on the MP seekers since it adds display value and character, the faces on Blitzwing are too reminiscent of his TFA incarnation, which IMO, feel very out of place with his G1 design. While we've only seen his normal and "icy" faces, the icy one looks too TFA for my tastes. Also, his normal face has the visor too low, leaving a gap between it and the rim of his "helmet."

In any case, G1 Blitzwing never had this feature, so I personally think it's unnecessary.

That said, maybe the kids will love it. Gotta keep reminding myself it's a kid's toy line, not MP. :grin:

TL;DR, not a fan of his 3-face gimmick because the icy face reminds me too much of his TFA incarnation and creates problems with face proportions, and looks out of place on his neo-G1 toy.

I'm not a kid and I love both this 3 face gimmick and Animated!

Btw, G1 has nothing to do with this toy, are you channeling X? :P :lol:


Who's X? :???:

I never said you had to be a kid to enjoy these gimmicks, just that I personally prefer a single head sculpt and pointed out the reasons why.

And how does G1 not have anything to do with the toy? It's a triple-changer that transforms into a tank and jet, and was based on his G1 design for the original toy and in the cartoon in terms of color and alt modes.

Admittedly the same can be said for TFA's Blitzwing too, but in terms of aesthetics, this toy homages the more traditional G1 look than the more abstract TFA style.

I love Animated too, don't let the comments fool you. ;) I just don't like having certain TFA elements mixed in with neo-G1 designs, at least those where it might look out of place, like that canceled Brawn figure with a G1-esque head stuck on a TF Prime voyager Bulkhead, or Cliff's WFC head stuck onto TF Prime FE Cliffjumper.

In any case, the post is kind of obsolete, since I got a better look at the "icy" face RACast posted on another thread. Looks nothing like the TFA face and is very G1-esque, not to mention awesome.
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby RAcast » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:21 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Who's X? :???:

I never said you had to be a kid to enjoy these gimmicks, just that I personally prefer a single head sculpt and pointed out the reasons why.

And how does G1 not have anything to do with the toy? It's a triple-changer that transforms into a tank and jet, and was based on his G1 design for the original toy and in the cartoon in terms of color and alt modes.

Admittedly the same can be said for TFA's Blitzwing too, but in terms of aesthetics, this toy homages the more traditional G1 look than the more abstract TFA style.

I love Animated too, don't let the comments fool you. ;) I just don't like having certain TFA elements mixed in with neo-G1 designs, at least those where it might look out of place, like that canceled Brawn figure with a G1-esque head stuck on a TF Prime voyager Bulkhead, or Cliff's WFC head stuck onto TF Prime FE Cliffjumper.

In any case, the post is kind of obsolete, since I got a better look at the "icy" face RACast posted on another thread. Looks nothing like the TFA face and is very G1-esque, not to mention awesome.

X is quite possibly the most...unreasonable is the word I'll go with...GEEWUNER on this forum. If it's not EXPLICITLY G1, he has something bad to say about it.
And by something, I mean he usually comes up with some sort of rant. :roll:

And they're FoC characters (i.e. Aligned universe), so you could very reasonably state that GEEWUN does not necessarily dictate the voyager triple changers outside of the visual homage.

In any case, I'm glad you took a better look at the pictures. :)
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby Arctorro » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:30 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
Arctorro wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Personally, I'd prefer if they didn't include that gimmick. IMO the overall head sculpt almost always suffers when you implement face-swapping--V1 MP Seekers had rather flat faces due to their ability to flip face-plates for different expressions.

While I don't mind it on the MP seekers since it adds display value and character, the faces on Blitzwing are too reminiscent of his TFA incarnation, which IMO, feel very out of place with his G1 design. While we've only seen his normal and "icy" faces, the icy one looks too TFA for my tastes. Also, his normal face has the visor too low, leaving a gap between it and the rim of his "helmet."

In any case, G1 Blitzwing never had this feature, so I personally think it's unnecessary.

That said, maybe the kids will love it. Gotta keep reminding myself it's a kid's toy line, not MP. :grin:

TL;DR, not a fan of his 3-face gimmick because the icy face reminds me too much of his TFA incarnation and creates problems with face proportions, and looks out of place on his neo-G1 toy.

I'm not a kid and I love both this 3 face gimmick and Animated!

Btw, G1 has nothing to do with this toy, are you channeling X? :P :lol:


Who's X? :???:

I never said you had to be a kid to enjoy these gimmicks, just that I personally prefer a single head sculpt and pointed out the reasons why.

And how does G1 not have anything to do with the toy? It's a triple-changer that transforms into a tank and jet, and was based on his G1 design for the original toy and in the cartoon in terms of color and alt modes.

Admittedly the same can be said for TFA's Blitzwing too, but in terms of aesthetics, this toy homages the more traditional G1 look than the more abstract TFA style.

I love Animated too, don't let the comments fool you. ;) I just don't like having certain TFA elements mixed in with neo-G1 designs, at least those where it might look out of place, like that canceled Brawn figure with a G1-esque head stuck on a TF Prime voyager Bulkhead, or Cliff's WFC head stuck onto TF Prime FE Cliffjumper.

In any case, the post is kind of obsolete, since I got a better look at the "icy" face RACast posted on another thread. Looks nothing like the TFA face and is very G1-esque, not to mention awesome.

1) Rated X, the obsessive compulsive G1 fan :D

2) Lots of people like to compare new toys to G1 and are often disappointed. Problem is that Hasbro clearly isn't all that interested in G1 any more so their throw backs to old characters are never going to be very accurate. There will always be something that doesn't fit. In this case, the homeage to Animated Blitzwing.

3) Not nice fooling me like that :P

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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:21 pm

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Arctorro wrote:1) Rated X, the obsessive compulsive G1 fan :D


Oh, him. :lol:

Arctorro wrote:2) Lots of people like to compare new toys to G1 and are often disappointed. Problem is that Hasbro clearly isn't all that interested in G1 any more so their throw backs to old characters are never going to be very accurate. There will always be something that doesn't fit. In this case, the homeage to Animated Blitzwing.


You've got a point there. Honestly, the only problem I had with the gimmick was that from the earlier pics it looked too close to TFA Blitzwing, but it wasn't upon close inspection. That, and the visor issue on his normal face, which was IMO a silly screw up on the designer's part. I mean, can't he just move the darn visor a couple mm higher and not make it look like he has an unusually high forehead?

Not matter, since I really love the icy face. He'll probably be displayed in that face 90% of the time. 8)

RAcast wrote:In any case, I'm glad you took a better look at the pictures. :)


Me too. I was on the verge of skipping Blitzwing on account of the face.
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Re: BBTS Sponsor News: New Hasbro Transformers - Voyager, Deluxe, Legends

Postby Arctorro » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:57 am

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
Arctorro wrote:2) Lots of people like to compare new toys to G1 and are often disappointed. Problem is that Hasbro clearly isn't all that interested in G1 any more so their throw backs to old characters are never going to be very accurate. There will always be something that doesn't fit. In this case, the homeage to Animated Blitzwing.


You've got a point there. Honestly, the only problem I had with the gimmick was that from the earlier pics it looked too close to TFA Blitzwing, but it wasn't upon close inspection. That, and the visor issue on his normal face, which was IMO a silly screw up on the designer's part. I mean, can't he just move the darn visor a couple mm higher and not make it look like he has an unusually high forehead?

Not matter, since I really love the icy face. He'll probably be displayed in that face 90% of the time. 8)

Just had another look at the normal face, can see what you mean. Still kinda like it though :D

I'll probably use the icy face most of the time as well!
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