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When the WFC figs came out I was super stoked with the look, the design, everything. I remember thinking how sweet it would be to get a whole line of game characters...well now that time has arrived and it pretty much sucks. These things aren't anything like the WFC figures. They're small, hollow, shitty plastic, dumbed-down, mediocre engineering, and even the aesthetics seem different. What the hell happened? They can't seems to get anything right either. Voyager Soundwave. Okay, yeah, it looks cool enough...but what the hell's it gonna go with? I'm fine with them introducing voyager class figs, but why Soundwave? Not Prime, not Megatron....Soundwave. Can I have my wish back?

I felt the same way when Episodes 1-3 of Star Wars were made. Some things were done right but so many more things were done wrong.

Damn you, Lucas!!!

I mean, Hasbro!!!

NoooOOOOooOOoOoOOOOOooOOOooo!

Seriously, though, I agree. For the price they're listed at, I don't think they are worth it. People cite oil prices, economy, etc. for the rising toy prices, hollowing of parts, and downsizing of the figures but...what's up with the sub par engineering? That's the one factor that I will not give Hasbro any slack for because the TF toy designers have shown time and again that they can make fantastic plastic toys of transforming robots. Even though it isn't a FoC toy, letting something like Airachnid see the light of day is shameful. Poor engineering is one thing that shouldn't be forgiven when we know things could have been designed better.

To me, the FoC line looks like it was designed to be a pure filler line and thus not a lot of time or money went into them. Maybe Hasbro isn't expecting many people to buy them? Maybe Hasbro feels it's more of an obligation to make figures to go along with the video game? Or maybe Hasbro is in worse straights that they let on.

All I know is that if they do more neo-G1 figs in this crappy manner, then things are going to get tense.

Mkall wrote:To me, the FoC line looks like it was designed to be a pure filler line and thus not a lot of time or money went into them.

WFC is also a filler line and only contains four figures. And most of them are awesome besides Bee. DOTM is the main line and we all know what happened.

We need more filler lines like RTS.

paul053 wrote:

Mkall wrote:To me, the FoC line looks like it was designed to be a pure filler line and thus not a lot of time or money went into them.

WFC is also a filler line and only contains four figures. And most of them are awesome besides Bee. DOTM is the main line and we all know what happened.

We need more filler lines like RTS.

But WFC wasn't a line as opposed to figures incorperated into another line which from all appearances, had a much stronger backing than this line.

Mkall wrote:To me, the FoC line looks like it was designed to be a pure filler line and thus not a lot of time or money went into them. Maybe Hasbro isn't expecting many people to buy them? Maybe Hasbro feels it's more of an obligation to make figures to go along with the video game? Or maybe Hasbro is in worse straights that they let on.

All I know is that if they do more neo-G1 figs in this crappy manner, then things are going to get tense.

Don't forget that "Classics" was also a filler line.

They're not even doing the right characters either. No Arcee, Slipstream, or Jet Autobots. Refund on wish too, please.

I actually like them. I think someone mentioned how the Optimus has a 'cleaner' mold on another thread. These figures aren't as complicated, but they are still nice IMO. Looking forward to getting Jazz.

Geekee1 wrote:Don't forget that "Classics" was also a filler line.

The original Classics line came out in 2005, 7 years ago. There's no point in comparing the due to all the things that have changed since then.

Drift082111 wrote:I actually like them. I think someone mentioned how the Optimus has a 'cleaner' mold on another thread. These figures aren't as complicated, but they are still nice IMO. Looking forward to getting Jazz.

I don't necessarily need figs to be overly complex in my more mature collecting years (that was a great appeal to me when I came back to TFs after 15+ years,) but I do want them to be intelligently designed so you don't have floating heads, parts that don't go securely in place, or weird joints in odd spots making for wonky articulation. You typically had that kind of stuff in other lines, but it would be a figure here or there. These figs, it's like a whole line of duds thus far. I have a little hope in a couple of the upcoming figs, but the more crappy figs I get, the less faith I have any of those will actually turn out to be any good either.

Prime has wonky arm articulation and I believe something with his waist doesn't sit securely (haven't touched him in a couple weeks after messing around with him briefly) and I know the shit hanging off his elbows doesn't securely stay in place. Not to mention his alt mode is a micro machine...