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Shockwave is a MUST!!!!! Anyone who doesn't want Shockwave is not a Transformers fan.

Also, seems I'm part of the group that wants all 3 versions of Magnus (Platinum being the 3rd). I love that we're gatting a new voyager, but I must ask, why his shoulders hurt?

Manterax Prime wrote:Shockwave is a MUST!!!!! Anyone who doesn't want Shockwave is not a Transformers fan.

don't tell me what makes me a transformers fan.

craggy wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:Shockwave is a MUST!!!!! Anyone who doesn't want Shockwave is not a Transformers fan.

don't tell me what makes me a transformers fan.

I'm joking....

I'm honestly not sure why they made this version of Ultra Magnus, really. The PRID version was more than enough. I don't want a remold with a bunch of junk on it. The PRID version works just fine being a brand new mold, all to itself.

I don't understand Hasbro one bit.

They cut Breakdown out (and don't listen to their excuses or "reasons" why, it's bull), they make TWO versions of all the major players (First Edition, then PRID), and now they're doing it again.

Optimus, I get. He's going to be redesigned in the show, he's THE major character, okay. A new Bulkhead and Starscream as well? That's the 3rd mold for those characters, so far. In the same toyline. (I don't care if it's considered a subline or has a tagline or whatever, it's all Prime.)

Hasbro wants to save money, cut costs, etc. Well, uh...doing things this way? Waste. An absolute waste.

I just don't get it. WTH?

I'm not sure BH Starscream or Bulkhead are cutting costs. Maybe if they were slight remolds of previously released figures, but they're not. At least Magnus I can understand, sort of. He's a retool, which presumably is cheaper than making a new mold (lets ignore the fact that there's already a unique mold for Magnus) but screamer and bulk are pretty much brand new. I think the BH SS does use a similar transformation scheme to FE Screamer, but doesn't look like they share any parts.

I don't think many of the characters in the show will end up looking like their revamped BH toy designs anyway (Prime seems likely, but dunno about the rest that aren't new) but I suppose Hasbro reckons a new toy with a name kids are already familiar with will sell better than one with a brand new name (like Autobot RoadBuster for Double-BH for example) so have kept the new toys designs vaguely familiar as well.

craggy wrote:I'm not sure BH Starscream or Bulkhead are cutting costs. Maybe if they were slight remolds of previously released figures, but they're not.

That's my point.

Autobot032 wrote:I'm honestly not sure why they made this version of Ultra Magnus, really. The PRID version was more than enough. I don't want a remold with a bunch of junk on it. The PRID version works just fine being a brand new mold, all to itself.

I don't understand Hasbro one bit.

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Hasbro wants to save money, cut costs, etc. Well, uh...doing things this way? Waste. An absolute waste.

I just don't get it. WTH?

If Ultra Magnus shows up in season 3, giving him his own CGI model would mean more money to spend when it could go to another new character. Recoloring and modifying the old Optimus model for Ultra Magnus doesn't stretch their budget to infinity and beyond, and they can give us another character.

Autobot032 wrote:I'm honestly not sure why they made this version of Ultra Magnus, really. The PRID version was more than enough. I don't want a remold with a bunch of junk on it. The PRID version works just fine being a brand new mold, all to itself.

I don't understand Hasbro one bit.

They cut Breakdown out (and don't listen to their excuses or "reasons" why, it's bull), they make TWO versions of all the major players (First Edition, then PRID), and now they're doing it again.

Optimus, I get. He's going to be redesigned in the show, he's THE major character, okay. A new Bulkhead and Starscream as well? That's the 3rd mold for those characters, so far. In the same toyline. (I don't care if it's considered a subline or has a tagline or whatever, it's all Prime.)

Hasbro wants to save money, cut costs, etc. Well, uh...doing things this way? Waste. An absolute waste.

I just don't get it. WTH?

With the excetion of RID, Animated, Energon and PRID, Ultra Magnus has ALWAYS been a repaint/retool of an existing Prime mold.

Why start complaining now?

Manterax Prime wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I'm honestly not sure why they made this version of Ultra Magnus, really. The PRID version was more than enough. I don't want a remold with a bunch of junk on it. The PRID version works just fine being a brand new mold, all to itself.

I don't understand Hasbro one bit.

They cut Breakdown out (and don't listen to their excuses or "reasons" why, it's bull), they make TWO versions of all the major players (First Edition, then PRID), and now they're doing it again.

Optimus, I get. He's going to be redesigned in the show, he's THE major character, okay. A new Bulkhead and Starscream as well? That's the 3rd mold for those characters, so far. In the same toyline. (I don't care if it's considered a subline or has a tagline or whatever, it's all Prime.)

Hasbro wants to save money, cut costs, etc. Well, uh...doing things this way? Waste. An absolute waste.

I just don't get it. WTH?

With the excetion of RID, Animated, Energon and PRID, Ultra Magnus has ALWAYS been a repaint/retool of an existing Prime mold.

Why start complaining now?

I'm not complaining about Magnus, specifically. I'm complaining about the need to make multiples when they needn't do so.

Autobot032 wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I'm honestly not sure why they made this version of Ultra Magnus, really. The PRID version was more than enough. I don't want a remold with a bunch of junk on it. The PRID version works just fine being a brand new mold, all to itself.

I don't understand Hasbro one bit.

They cut Breakdown out (and don't listen to their excuses or "reasons" why, it's bull), they make TWO versions of all the major players (First Edition, then PRID), and now they're doing it again.

Optimus, I get. He's going to be redesigned in the show, he's THE major character, okay. A new Bulkhead and Starscream as well? That's the 3rd mold for those characters, so far. In the same toyline. (I don't care if it's considered a subline or has a tagline or whatever, it's all Prime.)

Hasbro wants to save money, cut costs, etc. Well, uh...doing things this way? Waste. An absolute waste.

I just don't get it. WTH?

With the excetion of RID, Animated, Energon and PRID, Ultra Magnus has ALWAYS been a repaint/retool of an existing Prime mold.

Why start complaining now?

I'm not complaining about Magnus, specifically. I'm complaining about the need to make multiples when they needn't do so.

Becuase there IS a need to do so.

PrymeStriker wrote:
If Ultra Magnus shows up in season 3, giving him his own CGI model would mean more money to spend when it could go to another new character. Recoloring and modifying the old Optimus model for Ultra Magnus doesn't stretch their budget to infinity and beyond, and they can give us another character.