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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby Ravage XK » Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:11 am

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Good that were getting something new but bad that its on DVD, what about Blu Ray?
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby g2grimmy64 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:49 am

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ENGLISH. SUBS. REGION. FREE.
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby mysterybutt » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:50 am

Hi everyone! Just thought I might clear a few things up-

1. This will definitely be region 2, but aren't most DVD players able to be switched to "region 0"? You just have to look up the appropriate code.
2. 99.9% positive these will not have English subtitles. This is a result of the Japanese market not caring, as well as an antiquated/conservative means of doing business.
3. The price, as high as it is, it's most certainly not a typo or inaccurate. Japanese DVD releases, especially for animation that has not yet reached the states (and even afterwards) are generally very expensive. Certain animated series can come as two episodes a disc for over 4-5000 yen (roughly $50-60, I guess), depending on "pedigree".
4. No Blu-ray for probably a long, long time, unless they have remastered these for HD, which is unlikely.

If you feel any of these are disputable, please look at the very least of the original pricing/releases of Transformers series in Japan. Japanese products are a lot more expensive for a plethora of reasons, one of the main being that they know this will have a limited market, and they want to bleed it as much as possible.

Oh and just to ruin everyone's fun even more, no chance of any kind of English dub.

Hope I've been informative!
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby Dclone Soundwave » Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:29 am

Well damn. That's certainly a kick in the balls. Oh well. At least I'll have the Japanese Collection when it comes out.
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby Counterpunch » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:03 am

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At that price?

No sir. >:oP
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby michael alex kawa » Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:04 am

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All i can say that have not been said (kind of :P ) is that i want these out on DVD maybe just maybe Shout! can look in to it .I have seen some of them on YouTube but that is not enough for me =P~ .So i will make a prayer for it like every one else :PRAY: :PRAY: :PRAY: :PRAY: :WHISTLE: :PRAY: .By the way that bunny girl is real cute ,from the series that is why i want it so much. 8-} :-$
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby Rated X » Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:22 am

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Great, more subtitles. I have downloaded every Japansese TF series ever created but I just dont have the interest to watch them because subtitles ruin a show. I just cant seem to enjoy anything I have to read and watch at the same time. You cant keep up.
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:52 am

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Ravage XK wrote:Good that were getting something new but bad that its on DVD, what about Blu Ray?
These are from 1998. There's no chance for a Blu-Ray release of this, nor even for G1. The only Transformers series that could possibly be put on Blu-Ray are Animated and Prime.

g2grimmy64 wrote:ENGLISH. SUBS. REGION. FREE.
That's asking for too much. This is not foreign release, but a domestic (to Japan) release. Domestic releases are Region 2 with no subtitles due to reasons regarding business politics. It's the same reason that American DVDs don't have that many foreign audio tracks/subtitles (aside from maybe Spanish, French, etc.), so as to prevent people from importing DVDs so they can buy their own domestic releases.

mysterybutt wrote:Hi everyone! Just thought I might clear a few things up-

1. This will definitely be region 2, but aren't most DVD players able to be switched to "region 0"? You just have to look up the appropriate code.
2. 99.9% positive these will not have English subtitles. This is a result of the Japanese market not caring, as well as an antiquated/conservative means of doing business.
3. The price, as high as it is, it's most certainly not a typo or inaccurate. Japanese DVD releases, especially for animation that has not yet reached the states (and even afterwards) are generally very expensive. Certain animated series can come as two episodes a disc for over 4-5000 yen (roughly $50-60, I guess), depending on "pedigree".
4. No Blu-ray for probably a long, long time, unless they have remastered these for HD, which is unlikely.

If you feel any of these are disputable, please look at the very least of the original pricing/releases of Transformers series in Japan. Japanese products are a lot more expensive for a plethora of reasons, one of the main being that they know this will have a limited market, and they want to bleed it as much as possible.

Oh and just to ruin everyone's fun even more, no chance of any kind of English dub.

Hope I've been informative!
Thank you very much. What with the timing of this pre-order being found during Shout! Factory's own releases of the JG1 sets, I expected some people to mistake this for another subtitled DVD release.

Counterpunch wrote:At that price?

No sir. >:oP
It's no good to you (or any non-Japanese person) anyway.

michael alex kawa wrote:All i can say that have not been said (kind of :P ) is that i want these out on DVD maybe just maybe Shout! can look in to it .I have seen some of them on YouTube but that is not enough for me =P~ .So i will make a prayer for it like every one else :PRAY: :PRAY: :PRAY: :PRAY: :WHISTLE: :PRAY: .By the way that bunny girl is real cute ,from the series that is why i want it so much. 8-} :-$
Bunny girl? I know of a bunny, and a girl, but what bunny girl? :???:

Rated X wrote:Great, more subtitles. I have downloaded every Japansese TF series ever created but I just dont have the interest to watch them because subtitles ruin a show. I just cant seem to enjoy anything I have to read and watch at the same time. You cant keep up.
There are no subtitles! This is not a set to be bought in America. It's for a domestic purchase in Japan only, just like how the new Beast Wars DVDs are for a domestic purchase in America only.

This is the first time this show has ever been put on DVD. We need to wait our turn for any subtitled release.
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby BeastProwl » Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:58 am

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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby cannonfodder4000 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:33 am

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BeastProwl wrote:Hey wait a minute... I have that guy on the right! That galvatron... any estimate as to what it's truly worth? It's missing 1 missile, thats all.


the Korean reissue goes for about 50 bucks, the Japanese release probably goes for more, though I was lucky enough to get it for 35 bucks. ;)
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby GetRightRobot » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:40 am

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That series is great! Come on Stampy! Man there are some horrible fan dubs out there...
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:41 am

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GetRightRobot wrote:That series is great! Come on Stampy! Man there are some horrible fan dubs out there...
Stampy's from Beast Wars Neo. :-B Oops. :oops:
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby GetRightRobot » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:03 am

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GetRightRobot wrote:That series is great! Come on Stampy! Man there are some horrible fan dubs out there...
Stampy's from Beast Wars Neo. :-B Oops. :oops:


Awh man thats right, wrong Prime too....

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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:05 am

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GetRightRobot wrote:That series is great! Come on Stampy! Man there are some horrible fan dubs out there...
Stampy's from Beast Wars Neo. :-B Oops. :oops:


BWII had characters based on 2nd year pre-Transmetal toys, plus G1/G2 repaints, plus some retools. That's the difference with Neo that had all new molds all the way.

And I surely hope an experienced studio takes up this series and either dubs it (with good vioces) or subs it. We really need to fill the gap between Beast Wars S1 and S2/3.
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:28 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
GetRightRobot wrote:That series is great! Come on Stampy! Man there are some horrible fan dubs out there...
Stampy's from Beast Wars Neo. :-B Oops. :oops:


BWII had characters based on 2nd year pre-Transmetal toys, plus G1/G2 repaints, plus some retools. That's the difference with Neo that had all new molds all the way.
Save for Randy, Rockbuster, Sharp Edge, Bump, Survive, Hydra, and Crazybolt, that is. ;)

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And I surely hope an experienced studio takes up this series and either dubs it (with good vioces) or subs it.
Since they didn't redub the JG1 series, I'd say a subbed release will be our best bet.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:We really need to fill the gap between Beast Wars S1 and S2/3.
BWII and Neo don't occur between seasons 1 and 2/3 (even though it aired during then). It takes place "tens of thousands of years" after Beast Wars Returns (Beast Machines).
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby BeastProwl » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:54 am

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BeastProwl wrote:Hey wait a minute... I have that guy on the right! That galvatron... any estimate as to what it's truly worth? It's missing 1 missile, thats all.


the Korean reissue goes for about 50 bucks, the Japanese release probably goes for more, though I was lucky enough to get it for 35 bucks. ;)

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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby GetRightRobot » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:09 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:
cannonfodder4000 wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:Hey wait a minute... I have that guy on the right! That galvatron... any estimate as to what it's truly worth? It's missing 1 missile, thats all.


the Korean reissue goes for about 50 bucks, the Japanese release probably goes for more, though I was lucky enough to get it for 35 bucks. ;)

Picked him up for $10.00 USD At a collectables shop.


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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:15 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
GetRightRobot wrote:That series is great! Come on Stampy! Man there are some horrible fan dubs out there...
Stampy's from Beast Wars Neo. :-B Oops. :oops:


BWII had characters based on 2nd year pre-Transmetal toys, plus G1/G2 repaints, plus some retools. That's the difference with Neo that had all new molds all the way.
Save for Randy, Rockbuster, Sharp Edge, Bump, Survive, Hydra, and Crazybolt, that is. ;)


Still, the majority is new, and I own half of them. On the hunt for Survive, Bump and Crazybolt are a bonus, but Randy is a GPS-hazard if I ever saw one.

Again, Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And I surely hope an experienced studio takes up this series and either dubs it (with good vioces) or subs it.
Since they didn't redub the JG1 series, I'd say a subbed release will be our best bet.


One can dream... Just keep the Japanese names and I'm happy.

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:We really need to fill the gap between Beast Wars S1 and S2/3.
BWII and Neo don't occur between seasons 1 and 2/3 (even though it aired during then). It takes place "tens of thousands of years" after Beast Wars Returns (Beast Machines).


I know, that's what I was referring to! Still, i'm gonna argue that Beast Machines is a splinter timeline thanks to Megatron's handiwork.
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:48 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Still, the majority is new, and I own half of them. On the hunt for Survive, Bump and Crazybolt are a bonus, but Randy is a GPS-hazard if I ever saw one.
They should rerelease every GPS/BPS figure with gold/brown paint instead of plastic.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:One can dream... Just keep the Japanese names and I'm happy.
Indeed! If they were to be dubbed, I'd want the Ocean Studios voice cast to provide the voices, so as to keep the entire Beast Era consistently voiced by that group. Though, I would really like for Garry Chalk to not voice either Lio Convoy or Big Convoy, as well as for David Kaye to not voice either Galvatron or Magmatron. That's a cliche I'd like to avoid, and (in Garry Chalk's case) it would kinda be redundant when Optimus Primal appears alongside Lio Convoy in "Lio Convoy Kiki Ippatsu".

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I know, that's what I was referring to! Still, i'm gonna argue that Beast Machines is a splinter timeline thanks to Megatron's handiwork.
Well, if these two shows are any indication, the whole of Beast Machines changing Cybertron gets undone at some point. ;)
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:54 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Still, the majority is new, and I own half of them. On the hunt for Survive, Bump and Crazybolt are a bonus, but Randy is a GPS-hazard if I ever saw one.
They should rerelease every GPS/BPS figure with gold/brown paint instead of plastic.


Which is what I plan with Randy. Get a spare Razorbeast and have him repainted.
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:58 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Still, the majority is new, and I own half of them. On the hunt for Survive, Bump and Crazybolt are a bonus, but Randy is a GPS-hazard if I ever saw one.
They should rerelease every GPS/BPS figure with gold/brown paint instead of plastic.


Which is what I plan with Randy. Get a spare Razorbeast and have him repainted.
Cool! I'll look forward to seeing the final results. :D
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby mysterybutt » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:20 pm

Rated X wrote:Great, more subtitles. You cant keep up.


That's a real shame. You can get a lot more from the original audio of foreign media (though in the case of Children's anime, maybe not so much. Depends on how keen you are for it/the quality of it). You can train yourself to appreciate it, though I don't find it hard because i grew up around some subtitled media. Who knows.

These are from 1998. There's no chance for a Blu-Ray release of this, nor even for G1. The only Transformers series that could possibly be put on Blu-Ray are Animated and Prime.


If they have the original film masters they can be remastered to an appropriate standard. The Transformers masters are missing, so there isn't a huge point. There are advantages to many titles, even pre-digital ones, that aren't just produced in HD.
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:34 pm

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Rated X wrote:Great, more subtitles. You cant keep up.


That's a real shame. You can get a lot more from the original audio of foreign media (though in the case of Children's anime, maybe not so much. Depends on how keen you are for it/the quality of it). You can train yourself to appreciate it, though I don't find it hard because i grew up around some subtitled media. Who knows.
The only anime I watch are children's/preteen's anime, and I get a lot out of them.

Though, yes, watching with subs isn't that hard a skill to master.
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:50 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
mysterybutt wrote:
Rated X wrote:Great, more subtitles. You cant keep up.


That's a real shame. You can get a lot more from the original audio of foreign media (though in the case of Children's anime, maybe not so much. Depends on how keen you are for it/the quality of it). You can train yourself to appreciate it, though I don't find it hard because i grew up around some subtitled media. Who knows.
The only anime I watch are children's/preteen's anime, and I get a lot out of them.

Though, yes, watching with subs isn't that hard a skill to master.


We in the Netherlands do nothing but, everything foreign on TV (even Flemish!) is subtitled, except for children's shows and cartoons. May I add that our dubbing is lame with a capital L, especially when the shows dubbed are live-action?
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Re: Beast Wars II DVD Preorder Listed on Rakuten

Postby michael alex kawa » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:02 pm

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michael alex kawa wrote:All i can say that have not been said (kind of :P ) is that i want these out on DVD maybe just maybe Shout! can look in to it .I have seen some of them on YouTube but that is not enough for me =P~ .So i will make a prayer for it like every one else :PRAY: :PRAY: :PRAY: :PRAY: :WHISTLE: :PRAY: .By the way that bunny girl is real cute ,from the series that is why i want it so much. 8-} :-$
Bunny girl? I know of a bunny, and a girl, but what bunny girl? :???:

I was talking about Artemis of course ,but i do see your point .I have always seen her like a futuristic anime "bunny girl " cause of her hair and the way her outfit in done around the belly =P~ area .Also since she hangs out with Moon .Her nose is a little bunny like too so i always saw her this way .But i can see why other would see her different . ;) .I am sorry about the confusion :KREMZEEK: . I should of used her name ,just thought "bunny girl " sounded funny :P .
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