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News Credits: 437 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:00 pm

cotss2012 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I grew up on Beast Wars, Beast Machines, and RiD, thus they hold great sentimental value for me

I... I had no idea... I'm so sorry for you.

Why, what'd you grow up on? I'm glad to have been introduced to the series by the one that holds the highest regard among the majority of the fandom (BW). :mrgreen:

Oh and, FWIW, your opinion is not Word of God.

by **cotss2012** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:37 pm

Sabrblade wrote:what'd you grow up on?

In effect, two VHS tapes, each with material that was copied from tapes that my mom rented from Blockbuster. One tape had most of Season 1, though the episodes were in the wrong order (since we had no idea what the correct order was and not every video store had every episode). The other tape had a censored version of the movie and "The Return of Optimus Prime".

Sabrblade wrote:Oh and, FWIW, your opinion is not Word of God.

Says who? God?

News Credits: 437 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:47 pm

cotss2012 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:what'd you grow up on?

In effect, two VHS tapes, each with material that was copied from tapes that my mom rented from Blockbuster. One tape had most of Season 1, though the episodes were in the wrong order (since we had no idea what the correct order was and not every video store had every episode). The other tape had a censored version of the movie and "The Return of Optimus Prime".

No offense, but that's kinda sad. |:|

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:15 am

Sabrblade wrote:
cotss2012 wrote:I'm sorry, but the correct order is as follows:
No such thing exists.

cotss2012 wrote:7. Catching AIDS from getting butt-raped in prison
Ooooh! I never saw that Transformers cartoon! When did it air? Can I watch it?! Please! Pretty please! Huh huh? PLEASE!

Did you grow up?

by **cotss2012** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:21 pm

Sabrblade wrote:No offense, but that's kinda sad.

Hardly. I got to see the good parts of G1 - "Fire in the Sky", "SOS Dinobots", "War of the Dinobots", "The Ultimate Doom", "Heavy Metal War", the movie, etc. - without suffering through stuff like "The Girl who Loved Powerglide" and "The Rebirth".

It's certainly a million times better than growing up on RID or the first season of BW.

News Credits: 437 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:02 pm

cotss2012 wrote:It's certainly a million times better than growing up on RID or the first season of BW.

...Not really.

Though, I grew up on the RiD toys more than the cartoon, since I was unable to see most of it until 2007. But I did see all of the two Beast Era cartoons, which were a blast from start to finish.

Once I did finally get to see all of RiD, however, it started off kinda slow, got more and more epic as it continued, with better characters like Scourge, Ultra Magnus, and Fortess Maximus coming into play, making the stakes higher and the scales grander.

BTW, Beast Wars season 1 was the first (and, until more than a decade later, the only) TF series to win an Emmy. Whne Prime won its two Emmys, they were just two of the exact same award Beast Wars won (only reason it won two was because of there being two people instead of one this time).

by **cotss2012** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:51 pm

BW season 1 was crap... BW didn't get any good writers until S2, and then it really got awesome. Still not as good as TFTM, though

News Credits: 437 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:50 am

cotss2012 wrote:BW season 1 was crap... BW didn't get any good writers until S2, and then it really got awesome.

Um, many of the same people who wrote for the first season wrote for the second and third.

And, like I said, season 1 won the Emmy, not season 2 or 3.

News Credits: 1 · by **RhA** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:42 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
cotss2012 wrote:BW season 1 was crap... BW didn't get any good writers until S2, and then it really got awesome.
Um, many of the same people who wrote for the first season wrote for the second and third.

And, like I said, season 1 won the Emmy, not season 2 or 3.

Yeah, but season 2 had 'the agenda'.

FWIW, I consider BW and BM a whole.

News Credits: 437 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:00 pm

RhA wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
cotss2012 wrote:BW season 1 was crap... BW didn't get any good writers until S2, and then it really got awesome.
Um, many of the same people who wrote for the first season wrote for the second and third.

And, like I said, season 1 won the Emmy, not season 2 or 3.

Yeah, but season 2 had 'the agenda'.

FWIW, I consider BW and BM a whole.

I'm not saying season 2/3 weren't great. i'm saying that season 1 wasn't awful.

by **cotss2012** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:00 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Um, many of the same people who wrote for the first season wrote for the second and third.

So? Len Wein, Patrick Barry, and Christy Marx weren't brought on board until season 2. Evan Sommers, Jules Dennis, Arthur Sellers, D.C. Fontana, Eric Torin, and oh yeah, SIMON FREAKING FURMAN weren't involved until season 3.

On a side note, Ian Weir, who wrote "Code of Hero", also gave us "Possession", which was by far the coolest season 1 episode. He should have written the whole series, if you ask me...

Sabrblade wrote:And, like I said, season 1 won the Emmy, not season 2 or 3.

And, like you said, it was for animation, not storytelling.

RhA wrote:Yeah, but season 2 had 'the agenda'.

More importantly, it had "Code of Hero" and "Transmutate".

RhA wrote:FWIW, I consider BW and BM a whole.

That's how I feel about Star Trek TOS and TAS.

Sabrblade wrote:i'm saying that season 1 wasn't awful

Go watch the first two episodes again. They're even more painful to watch than the RID recap episode >.<

by **Ravenous Nightwind** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:13 pm

You gotta love how they try to take over and attempt to kill the humans and then boom dinobot turns on him! As for the "autobot bible", that was just merely a prophesy. I'm not sure I would consider it a religion even though they might have one. How can you not believe something your creator told you would happen anyway? lol I wouldn't really call it a religion that they believe in primus because primus really is their creator..so I guess yeah he is a god but I don't think they exactly worship him, just respect him. Then again..they never really talked about it so we don't really know. I do know that it wasn't a bible lol.

News Credits: 437 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:19 pm

Ravenous Nightwind wrote:You gotta love how they try to take over and attempt to kill the humans and then boom dinobot turns on him! As for the "autobot bible", that was just merely a prophesy. I'm not sure I would consider it a religion even though they might have one. How can you not believe something your creator told you would happen anyway? lol I wouldn't really call it a religion that they believe in primus because primus really is their creator..so I guess yeah he is a god but I don't think they exactly worship him, just respect him. Then again..they never really talked about it so we don't really know. I do know that it wasn't a bible lol.

The "Covenant of Primus".

by **Ravenous Nightwind** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:21 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Ravenous Nightwind wrote:You gotta love how they try to take over and attempt to kill the humans and then boom dinobot turns on him! As for the "autobot bible", that was just merely a prophesy. I'm not sure I would consider it a religion even though they might have one. How can you not believe something your creator told you would happen anyway? lol I wouldn't really call it a religion that they believe in primus because primus really is their creator..so I guess yeah he is a god but I don't think they exactly worship him, just respect him. Then again..they never really talked about it so we don't really know. I do know that it wasn't a bible lol.
The "Covenant of Primus".

I know lol. It's to bad they never elaborated on where it came from and if there was anything else. It would of caused less misconception.

News Credits: 437 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:30 pm

Ravenous Nightwind wrote:I know lol. It's to bad they never elaborated on where it came from and if there was anything else. It would of caused less misconception.

More info on it here.

by **Ravenous Nightwind** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:42 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Ravenous Nightwind wrote:I know lol. It's to bad they never elaborated on where it came from and if there was anything else. It would of caused less misconception.
More info on it here.

Yeah but I mean like make something of it. You know what I mean? Like a different volumes sorta thing. Idk, just would be interesting to find more about that "religious" side of the maximals.

News Credits: 437 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:01 pm

Ravenous Nightwind wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ravenous Nightwind wrote:I know lol. It's to bad they never elaborated on where it came from and if there was anything else. It would of caused less misconception.
More info on it here.
Yeah but I mean like make something of it. You know what I mean? Like a different volumes sorta thing. Idk, just would be interesting to find more about that "religious" side of the maximals.

Exodus and Exiles go into more detail about it.

by **Ravenous Nightwind** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:15 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Ravenous Nightwind wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ravenous Nightwind wrote:I know lol. It's to bad they never elaborated on where it came from and if there was anything else. It would of caused less misconception.
More info on it here.
Yeah but I mean like make something of it. You know what I mean? Like a different volumes sorta thing. Idk, just would be interesting to find more about that "religious" side of the maximals.
Exodus and Exiles go into more detail about it.

Really? I'm gonna have to look into that. =o

News Credits: 437 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:24 pm

Ravenous Nightwind wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ravenous Nightwind wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ravenous Nightwind wrote:I know lol. It's to bad they never elaborated on where it came from and if there was anything else. It would of caused less misconception.
More info on it here.
Yeah but I mean like make something of it. You know what I mean? Like a different volumes sorta thing. Idk, just would be interesting to find more about that "religious" side of the maximals.
Exodus and Exiles go into more detail about it.
Really? I'm gonna have to look into that. =o

Exodus alone has a 21-page excerpt of it between chapters 15 and 16 written by Alpha Trion himself.

News Credits: 6 · by **BeastProwl** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:36 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Ravenous Nightwind wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ravenous Nightwind wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ravenous Nightwind wrote:I know lol. It's to bad they never elaborated on where it came from and if there was anything else. It would of caused less misconception.
More info on it here.
Yeah but I mean like make something of it. You know what I mean? Like a different volumes sorta thing. Idk, just would be interesting to find more about that "religious" side of the maximals.
Exodus and Exiles go into more detail about it.
Really? I'm gonna have to look into that. =o
Exodus alone has a 21-page excerpt of it between chapters 15 and 16 written by Alpha Trion himself.