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Megatron Wolf wrote:im sure hes in it but itll only be for less than a second and it wont be his robot mod thats for sure.If you want to get the mindless moron (main demographic) excited about this movie you show a **** ton of explosions and a giant t-rex stomping something.

I like how you casually insult all the fans of the movies (myself included)

Please stop doing that.

If he's in it, I imagine it'll be to the same extent that Blackout was in the first film.

If he's in it, I imagine it'll be to the same extent that Blackout was in the first film.

As far as premier trailers, that is.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:If he's in it, I imagine it'll be to the same extent that Blackout was in the first film.

As far as premier trailers, that is.

So like 7 minutes of him thrashing a army base?

Megatron Wolf wrote:im sure hes in it but itll only be for less than a second and it wont be his robot mod thats for sure.If you want to get the mindless moron (main demographic) excited about this movie you show a **** ton of explosions and a giant t-rex stomping something.

As opposed to what? All the autobots and decpeticons sitting around a table with Dr. Phil talking about feelings? Or maybe you'd prefer a two hour movie of them protesting there exile. A nice picket line in front of Washington. Or instead of fighting they could occupy and squat in a building. Now that's the TF movie I know everyone wants to see!

All things aside, looking forward to the trailer. This year promises to be a good one for movie trailers. Tf's, Godzilla, Planet of the Apes, spider man 2, Robocop, Expendables 3, captain America 2. Should be cool.

Blackout didn't get 7 minutes thrashing an army base, Jesse. He spent like 3 minutes just flying there, a minute or so of actual fighting, with even less time of blackout actually being in the shot, and he pretty much did little to nothing for the rest of the movie. 7 minutes, hah. That's more like the collective screen time of all robot mode tfs in the entire first movie. So yeah, I do expect about the same this time round with grimlock.

Megatron Wolf wrote:im sure hes in it but itll only be for less than a second and it wont be his robot mod thats for sure.If you want to get the mindless moron (main demographic) excited about this movie you show a **** ton of explosions and a giant t-rex stomping something.

they showed his robot mode for the dotm teaser.. why wouldn't they for TF4? .. i'm sure they want to show the off some of the different "transmorphed" robot modes.

TimothyR wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:im sure hes in it but itll only be for less than a second and it wont be his robot mod thats for sure.If you want to get the mindless moron (main demographic) excited about this movie you show a **** ton of explosions and a giant t-rex stomping something.

they showed his robot mode for the dotm teaser.. why wouldn't they for TF4?

Grimlock wasn't in DOTM. How could they show his robot mode?

It's Megatron Wolf, guys. He's become like the next griftimus prime.

MINDVVIPE wrote:Blackout didn't get 7 minutes thrashing an army base, Jesse. He spent like 3 minutes just flying there, a minute or so of actual fighting, with even less time of blackout actually being in the shot, and he pretty much did little to nothing for the rest of the movie. 7 minutes, hah. That's more like the collective screen time of all robot mode tfs in the entire first movie. So yeah, I do expect about the same this time round with grimlock.

You're still stuck on the flaws of the first movie? A flaw surrounding a character who doesn't even have that big of a name or fan base? Ok. Sure.

I've been burned by Bay and his insectoid nightmares too many times to not be skeptical. It may sound churlish, but so far every movie toy I've seen in stores has been a big letdown. They're never as flexible, poseable or as fun as they are portrayed. Indeed, most of them are kibble-laden bricks that don't yield nearly enough reward for all the effort it takes to transform them. You'd think toys that complicated would.... just LOOK better. Take Ravage for example. In the movie - lithe, flexible and agile. The toy? Stiff and brittle. All those spiky joints, and 99% of them turned out to be immovable plastic molded into solid pieces. Same with Scorponok. You wanted to be able to bend and flex them at least PARTIALLY like they could in the films without them snapping in two.

So sadly, I don't expect any degree of real articulation for the Dinobots. All these teaser images portray the figures as limber, fleet-footed and intricate. Ten to one, the forearms and the legs of each figure in alt mode will have only ONE joint and it will only bend 90 degrees. The heads probably won't move or rotate either, nor will there be any neck, back or waist articulation. And good luck if there are ANY joints on the tails.

Gonna take this news like I take my Fanboy tears; Refreshing with subtle hint of flamewar



I say bring on the Dinobots!! At least they'll be shown in the trailer, most things were kept secret in Dark of the Moon that it barely phased my interest during the commercials. Let's see some Robot-Dinos!

Shockwave7 wrote:I've been burned by Bay and his insectoid nightmares too many times to not be skeptical. It may sound churlish, but so far every movie toy I've seen in stores has been a big letdown. They're never as flexible, poseable or as fun as they are portrayed. Indeed, most of them are kibble-laden bricks that don't yield nearly enough reward for all the effort it takes to transform them. You'd think toys that complicated would.... just LOOK better. Take Ravage for example. In the movie - lithe, flexible and agile. The toy? Stiff and brittle. All those spiky joints, and 99% of them turned out to be immovable plastic molded into solid pieces. Same with Scorponok. You wanted to be able to bend and flex them at least PARTIALLY like they could in the films without them snapping in two.

So sadly, I don't expect any degree of real articulation for the Dinobots. All these teaser images portray the figures as limber, fleet-footed and intricate. Ten to one, the forearms and the legs of each figure in alt mode will have only ONE joint and it will only bend 90 degrees. The heads probably won't move or rotate either, nor will there be any neck, back or waist articulation. And good luck if there are ANY joints on the tails.

Let's not go assuming too much. The non-screen time movie toys had some great ones, as well as probably one of the greatest TF's (at least in regards to show accuracy/engineering), ROTF Prime. But the prime in this one is definitely crap.

SlyTF1 wrote:You're still stuck on the flaws of the first movie? A flaw surrounding a character who doesn't even have that big of a name or fan base? Ok. Sure.

I was responding to another poster's comment about Blackout, and the gross exageration of his screen time. I'm not stuck on anything simply because I choose to remember it accurately. Blackout having a big name or fanbase is subjective and doesn't matter. I could pick out flaws with a million things about all the other characters. But Blackout was brought up.

Megatron Wolf, stop insulting the fandom...

otherwise I am interested to see the trailer. I am a g1 hardcore fan, but I can appreciate the movies as an entertainment medium, and for the sake of argument I look at these movies as their own series not using or depending on g1 to exist.


and to whoever ragged on beast wars (I think megatron wolf) we loved them as their own story and the direct tie in to G1.