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zemper wrote:

Autobot Optimus Prime wrote:Just proves: For every serving of repainted plastic diarrhea that is produced, there are fans ready to eat it up.

QFT, and this is so sig-worthy.

Thanks!

They only offered 200 loose sets last year too. Although I think they raised that eventually. Still I did not expect to see this years set sell out so fast, especially with the so farm luke-warm reactions from people.

Why does everyone assume its scalpers when something like this happens?

They had over 400 registrations the first 24 hours. Chances are those are committed folks trying to get in a class, etc. I picked up an extra set to have an extra set. If 199 of the other first 400 applicants did the same, then what's wrong with that?

I'm not expecting high resale value or to even resell mine. And for those calling this 'plastic diarrhea', you may be eating your words if the rest of the repaints/remolds look good.

I am not a fan of scalpers either, but to assume they are the reason these were bought so quickly seems a bit rash. Scaplers are not dumb, they know that this set is not a set that everyone will want to complete their G1 CLASSICs set--so it will not be selling for 3 to 4 times its normal price like last years set.

Geekee1 wrote:They only offered 200 loose sets last year too. Although I think they raised that eventually. Still I did not expect to see this years set sell out so fast, especially with the so farm luke-warm reactions from people.

Yeah, I think the limit is BS. Last year was 200 as well. I didn't fax my order in till the end of May and I still got the bagged set. I'm sure I wasn't one of the first 200...

emeraldbeacon wrote:I think it's speculation on resale values, given the rather high prices for 2007 pieces. Last year's set, though, presented an opportunity to finish off the set of Decepticon Jets (something that wasn't available outside of ebay since the mid eighties). That fact alone, IMHO, is what drove last year's prices through the roof... and that is what is going to make this year's set sell out very, very quickly.

The problem (or good thing, depending on your perspective) is, if this year's figures aren't as well-received, then all of the speculators will find themselves eventually selling for a loss... although the bargain hunters might get the set for far less than usual.

Dude, nothing with the words 'Transformers', 'BotCon', and 'Exclusive' all together, EVER sells for a loss.

zemper wrote:

Autobot Optimus Prime wrote:Just proves: For every serving of repainted plastic diarrhea that is produced, there are fans ready to eat it up.

QFT, and this is so sig-worthy.

No, it's not.

What I dislike in large amounts is the fact that people are free to go about saying shit like that, essentially insulting people who enjoy collecting all that Transformers has to offer while giving off an attitude of misdirected superiority.

What if I went around spouting off about how people who hate on repaints were probably too poor to afford them? Would it be cool if I went about hating on those who have to carefully choose which paint deco of a toy they were going to spend their money on?

No. It wouldn't. I don’t intend to, nor do I think like that, but if the discussion is going to go that direction, be ready for the likely response.

So unless someone can point to a way in which the repaints and retools offered up in later runs of Transformer lines are inferior, try to keep your slack-jawed, uninformed ignorance on the cuff.

Counterpunch wrote:

emeraldbeacon wrote:I think it's speculation on resale values, given the rather high prices for 2007 pieces. Last year's set, though, presented an opportunity to finish off the set of Decepticon Jets (something that wasn't available outside of ebay since the mid eighties). That fact alone, IMHO, is what drove last year's prices through the roof... and that is what is going to make this year's set sell out very, very quickly.

The problem (or good thing, depending on your perspective) is, if this year's figures aren't as well-received, then all of the speculators will find themselves eventually selling for a loss... although the bargain hunters might get the set for far less than usual.

Dude, nothing with the words 'Transformers', 'BotCon', and 'Exclusive' all together, EVER sells for a loss.

zemper wrote:

Autobot Optimus Prime wrote:Just proves: For every serving of repainted plastic diarrhea that is produced, there are fans ready to eat it up.

QFT, and this is so sig-worthy.

No, it's not.

What I dislike in large amounts is the fact that people are free to go about saying shit like that, essentially insulting people who enjoy collecting all that Transformers has to offer while giving off an attitude of misdirected superiority.

What if I went around spouting off about how people who hate on repaints were probably too poor to afford them? Would it be cool if I went about hating on those who have to carefully choose which paint deco of a toy they were going to spend their money on?

No. It wouldn't. I don’t intend to, nor do I think like that, but if the discussion is going to go that direction, be ready for the likely response.

So unless someone can point to a way in which the repaints and retools offered up in later runs of Transformer lines are inferior, try to keep your slack-jawed, uninformed ignorance on the cuff.

I will be right next to him saying it in a little more PC way, but yeah, I agree with CP's thoughts here.

Stop degrading people for buying a loose set too.

i really hate the fact that they ask you to commit to paying $300 for a set of toys we havent seen yet. They really should show us the set BEFORE putting up the registration forms. (not that they should put up the registration forms later). $300 is alot of money to put out on blind faith for figures i may not actually want. I mean i could buy 4-5 video games or 1-2 months of groceries, actually you could probably buy most of the movie line of figures for that price! last year was the only year i bought a set and i jumped when i heard it because we all knew what each figure was going to look like. It just seems like alot to ask of the fandom.

*edit - don't get me wrong, i dont mind the high price tag, i get that this is a specially made set for the fans. i just want to be able to see all the figures in the set before i have to commit to buying it.

King Henrik wrote:i really hate the fact that they ask you to commit to paying $300 for a set of toys we havent seen yet. They really should show us the set BEFORE putting up the registration forms. (not that they should put up the registration forms later). $300 is alot of money to put out on blind faith for figures i may not actually want.

I'm with you here bro. FP is asking for a LOT of faith on our part.

I'm with Counterpunch. Sometimes it seems that we don't even like Transformers around here because all we seem to do is complain about everything. I'm not a fan of the movie line. People don't like Animated. Fine, really. Didn't like the A/E/C line ups? Great. Say what you will about quality and characters and appearance and whatever else you please. But gee whiz (yeah, I said it...), Botcon and its offerings are the top of the line as far as collectibles are concerned for Transformers. There isn't a single movie 'premium' figure or hard to find repaint or Allspark Power figure that can hold a candle to the exclusive and collectible nature of Botcon figures.
This seems to be a continuation of last years convention set argument. If you don't like them don't buy them. If you don't want them don't buy them. If they cost too much or the Club membership is a scam or whatever, fine dudes, but do we always need to devolve into always complaining against each other?

All I know is that my sponsor child is sad. Now
he won't be able to get the set.