Seibertron.com Energon Pub Forums

DISCHARGE wrote:All I know is that my sponsor child is sad. Now
he won't be able to get the set.

That is absolutely brilliant. That made my day!

DISCHARGE wrote:All I know is that my sponsor child is sad. Now
he won't be able to get the set.

That's pretty evil right there.

Counterpunch wrote:

zemper wrote:

Autobot Optimus Prime wrote:Just proves: For every serving of repainted plastic diarrhea that is produced, there are fans ready to eat it up.

QFT, and this is so sig-worthy.

No, it's not.

What I dislike in large amounts is the fact that people are free to go about saying shit like that, essentially insulting people who enjoy collecting all that Transformers has to offer while giving off an attitude of misdirected superiority.

What if I went around spouting off about how people who hate on repaints were probably too poor to afford them? Would it be cool if I went about hating on those who have to carefully choose which paint deco of a toy they were going to spend their money on?

No. It wouldn't. I don’t intend to, nor do I think like that, but if the discussion is going to go that direction, be ready for the likely response.

So unless someone can point to a way in which the repaints and retools offered up in later runs of Transformer lines are inferior, try to keep your slack-jawed, uninformed ignorance on the cuff.

Hey, if you're gonna blow $300 on toys that are obvious throwaway ideas that are only being used to rape the true fans out of money but don't have any true relevance to any line of Transformers, and think that's ok, suit yourself. I personally would rather spend my $300 on Transformer items that are more original and interesting than just repaints.

But maybe you shouldn't be calling other people ignorant. Because you're just coming off looking like a hypocrite.

Autobot Optimus Prime wrote:Hey, if you're gonna blow $300 on toys that are obvious throwaway ideas that are only being used to rape the true fans out of money but don't have any true relevance to any line of Transformers, and think that's ok, suit yourself. I personally would rather spend my $300 on Transformer items that are more original and interesting than just repaints.

But maybe you shouldn't be calling other people ignorant. Because you're just coming off looking like a hypocrite.

Been called worse. I'm obviously not worried about it.

"True fan"

You must not know who I am.

Stop eating popcorn with chopsticks for 5 minutes and articulate exactly why repaints are bad, why BotCon sets are bad, and for the sake of life, liberty, and the pursuit of not stabbing myself in the hand everytime I read one of these posts, just exactly what a true fan is.

If you start insulting people based on how they feel about the set, good or bad, you will receive warnings.

Personal attacks are not allowed. You need to distance yourself enough from the people to stick to facts, and not insults.

Well for one I hate the people out there selling the figures for both arms and legs and are not true fans! Secondly we've all seen the botcon site and now know about purple prime. I know this must be old news, but anyway. You can plainly see an outline of crosswise in the back, but I can't make out the other mold? Can anyone tell who it is?

You can see it here at the registration link
http://botcon.com/08registration.cfm

That was nearly headache fast. I guess that I will see some of you at BOTCON!!!

Autobot Optimus Prime wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

No, it's not.

What I dislike in large amounts is the fact that people are free to go about saying shit like that, essentially insulting people who enjoy collecting all that Transformers has to offer while giving off an attitude of misdirected superiority.

What if I went around spouting off about how people who hate on repaints were probably too poor to afford them? Would it be cool if I went about hating on those who have to carefully choose which paint deco of a toy they were going to spend their money on?

No. It wouldn't. I don’t intend to, nor do I think like that, but if the discussion is going to go that direction, be ready for the likely response.

So unless someone can point to a way in which the repaints and retools offered up in later runs of Transformer lines are inferior, try to keep your slack-jawed, uninformed ignorance on the cuff.

Hey, if you're gonna blow $300 on toys that are obvious throwaway ideas that are only being used to rape the true fans out of money but don't have any true relevance to any line of Transformers, and think that's ok, suit yourself. I personally would rather spend my $300 on Transformer items that are more original and interesting than just repaints.

But maybe you shouldn't be calling other people ignorant. Because you're just coming off looking like a hypocrite.

While I respect your opinion and the fact that you are against the repaint idea, I must wonder what kind of fans you think attend Botcon or would be interested in exclusive figures such as these besides "true" fans.
For the most part, people who would have casually began collecting after the release of the movie this summer are probably not interested in either convention or exclusives. Why would someone who just started collecting spend all that money for an exclusive Botcon figure when their idea of a worthwhile exclusive is the Best Buy Ratchet that you can get for $50 via eBay? Why would you spend $100+ for a Botcon scout class repaint when you could get a crummy movie toy for $20 at retail? Botcon, and it's offerings, are intended for and marketed to and purchased by "true" fans, however you want to define "true".
CP isn't being a hypocrite, he's stating his opinion on the matter, and disagreeing with your opinion.


Thank goodness we get the opportunity to get exclusives. We are nothing if not unhappy.

gee willikers, i only state my agreement on an opinionated statement and i get a permadoucheing for voicing an opinion that doesn't even begin measure to the massive whining these boards usually get.

you don't have to agree with my opinion but that doesn't give you free reign to call out my opinion and thrash it around because i don't agree with what you think.

Counterpunch wrote:No, it's not.

What I dislike in large amounts is the fact that people are free to go about saying shit like that, essentially insulting people who enjoy collecting all that Transformers has to offer

i never said that. that's your perceived implication. just because you are implying that that's what the statement meant doesn't give you the right to brand your perception as truth and advertise it to other people.

Counterpunch wrote:while giving off an attitude of misdirected superiority.

last time i checked i wasn't the one acting with misdirected superiority here, nor were my opinions the law and forced them down on other people, nor was i the one who delights in some exclusive stuff i own and calling others "whiners" just because they were unlucky or too poor (per you own words) to have one. if that isn't perceived superiority then i don't know what is.

Counterpunch wrote:What if I went around spouting off about how people who hate on repaints were probably too poor to afford them?

Counterpunch wrote:Stop whining or I'm going to break out in song with the old gospel hit ShaNaNaNa NaNa Getajob. Sung by the BBBW of the East Street Gospel Choir.

well it seems you already did, and that's just one prime example.

Counterpunch wrote:No. It wouldn't. I don’t intend to, nor do I think like that, but if the discussion is going to go that direction, be ready for the likely response.

uh, ok. i write a "QFT" and the discussion immediately heads down "that" direction? what direction are we even talking about here?

Counterpunch wrote:So unless someone can point to a way in which the repaints and retools offered up in later runs of Transformer lines are inferior,

oh okay, lemme see. howsabout Armada Cheetor having the loosest ankles of all the TM Cheetor molds?

or how about the 10th Anniversary Rattrap, after only a few poses, begins to loses ankle tightness much more faster than the original version (which i have if you want evidence in case i relied on comparative data assumption).

i don't have to state all examples here, but most if not all TF fans agree that later products from the same mold usually suffer from some degradation in quality, which makes them INFERIOR per your statement.


no offense to ya, CP and i truly enjoy your maddeningly humorous and euphemistic musings most times, but your opinions aren't the law here - and calling me a slack-jawed uninformed ignoramus just doesn't cut it. just because people here look highly to your posts and will eagerly agree and side with you at the first bit of your opinion doesn't give you the right to call me anything at all. i didn't call you nothin' so i don't see where that particular phrase came from. lemme state my opinions (which wasn't aimed at any particular person in the first place) and i'll let you state yours.

I would have already ordered this set if every Autobot figure had a goatee painted on. But alas, golden repaint opportunities pass us by.