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Re: Botcon 2012 Comic Prequel - First 2 pages

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:22 pm

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Okay... grammar lesson time:

"You" whether used in a singular or plural sense is treated as a plural with verbs:

"You were" not "You was"

For example:
Was you talking to me? No... Were you talking to me? Yes.


I agree it's a bit messed up, but:

"(The) Last (time) I saw you was in Kitakyushu"

Clearer now?
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Re: Botcon 2012 Comic Prequel - First 2 pages

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:22 pm

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Black Bumblebee wrote:Really guys?

Okay... grammar lesson time:

"You" whether used in a singular or plural sense is treated as a plural with verbs:

"You were" not "You was"

For example:
Was you talking to me? No... Were you talking to me? Yes.
No. That's not how Metalhawk is using it. Let me reword part of his line to clarify.

"The last time that I saw you was in Kitakyushu."

Or even

"The last I saw of you was in Kitakyushu."

He's not using it like how you think he's using it.
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Re: Botcon 2012 Comic Prequel - First 2 pages

Postby GetRightRobot » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:43 pm

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I am not quarreling with the maxim to prune all unnecessary verbiage..
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Re: Botcon 2012 Comic Prequel - First 2 pages

Postby Black Bumblebee » Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:48 pm

Okay, I'll dig that. The subject here isn't the assumed "you" but the "Last [time] I saw you" as a whole phrase.

Still, if it was on a student's paper, I'd probably mark it as awkward wording :-)
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Re: Botcon 2012 Comic Prequel - First 2 pages

Postby tigertracks 24 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:47 pm

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Re: Botcon 2012 Comic Prequel - First 2 pages

Postby Rated X » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:19 am

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That human face on Metalhawk makes me want to puke. Ive been told in the Japanese cartoon, that the robots shrink down to human size and actually pretend to be a humans. Here we have a 20 foot tall armored Ken doll. It looks like Mitt Romney with a helmet.
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Re: Botcon 2012 Comic Prequel - First 2 pages

Postby tigertracks 24 » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:23 am

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Rated X wrote:That human face on Metalhawk makes me want to puke. Ive been told in the Japanese cartoon, that the robots shrink down to human size and actually pretend to be a humans. Here we have a 20 foot tall armored Ken doll. It looks like Mitt Romney with a helmet.


It's actually really cool that they do it in the cartoon, and it adds a mystic/magical element to Transformers that has been hinted at even in G1, but not expounded on much in US fiction.

Plus, Megatron was a 20 foot tall robot who shrunk down to a pistol or rifle that a human could hold, and Soundwave did the same thing.

This harkens back to G1 comics with Pretenders where they did Transform into giant armored humans who fought giant armored monsters. It was cheesy then, and it's cheesy now, but it's fun cheese.

Could look like a lot of people in a helmet. :D
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Re: Botcon 2012 Comic Prequel - First 2 pages

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:42 am

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Rated X wrote:That human face on Metalhawk makes me want to puke. Ive been told in the Japanese cartoon, that the robots shrink down to human size and actually pretend to be a humans. Here we have a 20 foot tall armored Ken doll. It looks like Mitt Romney with a helmet.
This isn't the Japanese cartoon continuity. This is the Marvel Comics continuity, in which the Pretenders were used in the U.S. style of giant organic-looking armor, rather than shrunken down organic beings like the Japanese cartoons portrayed them.

And as for Metalhawk here, he's become a Mega Pretender now like Thunderwing, Crossblades, and Vroom.
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Re: Botcon 2012 Comic Prequel - First 2 pages

Postby Rated X » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:37 am

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Rated X wrote:That human face on Metalhawk makes me want to puke. Ive been told in the Japanese cartoon, that the robots shrink down to human size and actually pretend to be a humans. Here we have a 20 foot tall armored Ken doll. It looks like Mitt Romney with a helmet.
This isn't the Japanese cartoon continuity. This is the Marvel Comics continuity, in which the Pretenders were used in the U.S. style of giant organic-looking armor, rather than shrunken down organic beings like the Japanese cartoons portrayed them.

And as for Metalhawk here, he's become a Mega Pretender now like Thunderwing, Crossblades, and Vroom.


Some concepts that look really cool in a comic book dont come out as cool in the form of a plastic toy. Many transformers figures look like they could be alive if they were life sized. All animated and anime style human figures look like toys even if they were life sized. Thats what makes the robots so unique compared to other toys of the period such as He-Man, Thundercats, and Ninja Turtles.
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Re: Botcon 2012 Comic Prequel - First 2 pages

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:42 am

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Rated X wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rated X wrote:That human face on Metalhawk makes me want to puke. Ive been told in the Japanese cartoon, that the robots shrink down to human size and actually pretend to be a humans. Here we have a 20 foot tall armored Ken doll. It looks like Mitt Romney with a helmet.
This isn't the Japanese cartoon continuity. This is the Marvel Comics continuity, in which the Pretenders were used in the U.S. style of giant organic-looking armor, rather than shrunken down organic beings like the Japanese cartoons portrayed them.

And as for Metalhawk here, he's become a Mega Pretender now like Thunderwing, Crossblades, and Vroom.


Some concepts that look really cool in a comic book dont come out as cool in the form of a plastic toy. Many transformers figures look like they could be alive if they were life sized. All animated and anime style human figures look like toys even if they were life sized. Thats what makes the robots so unique compared to other toys of the period such as He-Man, Thundercats, and Ninja Turtles.
Well, from what I understand, the Pretender toys were made first, and then put into the comics (and commercials).

Plus, if ya cry foul to Metalhawk, ya gotta do the same to Octopunch and Skullgrin here too, since they too look like giant "fleshling creatures" instead of robots. ;)
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