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Dead Metal wrote:

phase wrote:I wonder if this means that Universe Treadshot was the same character as G1 Treadshot?

No, not all SG characters are based on G1 guys.

I know, it would just make sense due to the dodgy nature of the Universe series, along with the small amount of fiction G1 Treadshot got. I mean, first Sideways was a RID Autobot, then an Armada Herald of Unicron, and then a Robot Masters Decepticon, then a former resident of Planet X in Cybertron, etc.

Razorclaw0000 wrote:The real reason this exists for Kick-Off:



That head is spot on.

GAH, you beat me to it!

I'll have to admit this was coming out of left field. Say, wasn't Kick-Off one of the rumored figures? I call Freebee on this one.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Razorclaw0000 wrote:The real reason this exists for Kick-Off:



That head is spot on.

GAH, you beat me to it!

I'll have to admit this was coming out of left field. Say, wasn't Kick-Off one of the rumored figures? I call Freebee on this one.

My thoughts too. And I suspect a third version will be the customizing class figure. Maybe G1 Kick-Off? Not sure. The mold is straightforward enough (more so that Tracks/Wheeljack)and I don't think it'll be the G2 Prime mold.

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Razorclaw0000 wrote:The real reason this exists for Kick-Off:



That head is spot on.

GAH, you beat me to it!

I'll have to admit this was coming out of left field. Say, wasn't Kick-Off one of the rumored figures? I call Freebee on this one.

My thoughts too. And I suspect a third version will be the customizing class figure. Maybe G1 Kick-Off? Not sure. The mold is straightforward enough (more so that Tracks/Wheeljack)and I don't think it'll be the G2 Prime mold.

The rumored Kick-Off is G1, well Classics. I'm calling SG Swindle for Customizing Class, since it supposedly uses a mold already used for a previous BotCon: Universe Hound. Think BotCon 2010 Scorch.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The rumored Kick-Off is G1, well Classics. I'm calling SG Swindle for Customizing Class, since it supposedly uses a mold already used for a previous BotCon: Universe Hound. Think BotCon 2010 Scorch.

I've never bought into that theory that the club uses a mold once for Botcon, then doesn't use it again. SG Thundercracker from last year is a good example.

I think that the customizing class instead piggybacks a mold that is already being used for the set, and then uses that mold again in the classroom, much like SG Thunderclash, or Animated Minerva, or SG Nightbeat, which was used with the same Nightbeat mold as the year it was released.

My theory is that this year will be SG Ironhide, much to the chagrin of every SG fan who will not be able to attend.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The rumored Kick-Off is G1, well Classics. I'm calling SG Swindle for Customizing Class, since it supposedly uses a mold already used for a previous BotCon: Universe Hound. Think BotCon 2010 Scorch.

Sorry, typing too quickly. I meant to say G1 Treadshot.

Mkall wrote:My theory is that this year will be SG Ironhide, much to the chagrin of every SG fan who will not be able to attend.

Man, I really really hope it's not that. Soundwave I understand why they used it for him vs the Perceptor mold. But I think once is enough. Now if they used RTS Jazz in the custom class...

I'm surprised noone's mentioned the rivalry between Universe Ultra Magnus and Treadshot especially since they're both in the set.

Personally, I always felt the Universe comics were primarily set in the G1/Beast Wars continuity, meaning G1 and Universe Treadshot could be the same character or else it's just like the way there's too Sky Highs and Tracers in G1.

I would love this except I hate Deluxe cars. Pity because I've wanted a new Armada Sideswipe and Kick Off for years but Scout size to fit in with the Diaclones. Ah well, money saved.

That said, I would have loved Treadshot from Classics Megatron too.

Windsweeper wrote:I'm surprised noone's mentioned the rivalry between Universe Ultra Magnus and Treadshot especially since they're both in the set.

That's near verbatim from the Universe Battle in a Box set.

Windsweeper wrote:Personally, I always felt the Universe comics were primarily set in the G1/Beast Wars continuity, meaning G1 and Universe Treadshot could be the same character or else it's just like the way there's too Sky Highs and Tracers in G1.

The setting was post-Beast Machines, yes, but the characters were those who sprang up from all sorts of alternate universes. Since there wasn't that much backstory given to Universe Treadshot (aside from "he's Ultra Magnus's rival and foe"), there's no way to identify what his universe of origin is.

Trikeboy wrote:I'm happy with this one, good mold and good paint job. For those complaining he isn't a gun, not all SG Transformers are from G1, just ask Demolisher:

Yes, but "Transhuman" just revealed that the non-G1 SG characters (Side Burn, Jetstorm, and Demolishor) are not as they seem. This also leads me to believe that Universe Treadshot is/was the same guy as G1 Treadshot, also due to the small-to-no amounts of fiction they received.

phase wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:I'm happy with this one, good mold and good paint job. For those complaining he isn't a gun, not all SG Transformers are from G1, just ask Demolisher:

Yes, but "Transhuman" just revealed that the non-G1 SG characters (Side Burn, Jetstorm, and Demolishor) are not as they seem. This also leads me to believe that Universe Treadshot is/was the same guy as G1 Treadshot, also due to the small-to-no amounts of fiction they received.

But don't forget that there IS a G1 Side Burn now, so SG Side Burn isn't technically a non-G1 SG character anymore.

Can someone tell me who G1 Treadshot was? Can't find him on tfu.info

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Can someone tell me who G1 Treadshot was? Can't find him on tfu.info

Action Master

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Can someone tell me who G1 Treadshot was? Can't find him on tfu.info

Action Master

Thanks. For some reason I was thinking Action Masters as G2

Blurrz wrote:Holy cripes our multiverse singularity is worse than DC.

I think you've confuzzled "Multiversal Singularity" with just "Multiverse".

Sabrblade wrote:

phase wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:I'm happy with this one, good mold and good paint job. For those complaining he isn't a gun, not all SG Transformers are from G1, just ask Demolisher:

Yes, but "Transhuman" just revealed that the non-G1 SG characters (Side Burn, Jetstorm, and Demolishor) are not as they seem. This also leads me to believe that Universe Treadshot is/was the same guy as G1 Treadshot, also due to the small-to-no amounts of fiction they received.

But don't forget that there IS a G1 Side Burn now, so SG Side Burn isn't technically a non-G1 SG character anymore.

However, SG Side Burn came before G1 Side Burn. Also, his body is a repurposing of Universe RiD Side Burn. Besides, while Jetstorm is technically a G1 character's counterpart, all them are the odd-man out in their factions. (Except for Jetstorm's lack of one.)

phase wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

phase wrote:Yes, but "Transhuman" just revealed that the non-G1 SG characters (Side Burn, Jetstorm, and Demolishor) are not as they seem. This also leads me to believe that Universe Treadshot is/was the same guy as G1 Treadshot, also due to the small-to-no amounts of fiction they received.

But don't forget that there IS a G1 Side Burn now, so SG Side Burn isn't technically a non-G1 SG character anymore.

However, SG Side Burn came before G1 Side Burn. Also, his body is a repurposing of Universe RiD Side Burn. Besides, while Jetstorm is technically a G1 character's counterpart, all them are the odd-man out in their factions. (Except for Jetstorm's lack of one.)

Retcons aren't anything new to this franchise.

Plus, technically, RiD Side Burn's Japanese counterpart (who thus also shares his body design), Speedbreaker, is a G1 character.

Sabrblade wrote:

phase wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

phase wrote:Yes, but "Transhuman" just revealed that the non-G1 SG characters (Side Burn, Jetstorm, and Demolishor) are not as they seem. This also leads me to believe that Universe Treadshot is/was the same guy as G1 Treadshot, also due to the small-to-no amounts of fiction they received.

But don't forget that there IS a G1 Side Burn now, so SG Side Burn isn't technically a non-G1 SG character anymore.

However, SG Side Burn came before G1 Side Burn. Also, his body is a repurposing of Universe RiD Side Burn. Besides, while Jetstorm is technically a G1 character's counterpart, all them are the odd-man out in their factions. (Except for Jetstorm's lack of one.)

Retcons aren't anything new to this franchise.

Plus, technically, RiD Side Burn's Japanese counterpart (who thus also shares his body design), Speedbreaker, is a G1 character.

Before, or after the great retcon aka "shoehorn-everything-into-one-single-continuity"?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

phase wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

phase wrote:Yes, but "Transhuman" just revealed that the non-G1 SG characters (Side Burn, Jetstorm, and Demolishor) are not as they seem. This also leads me to believe that Universe Treadshot is/was the same guy as G1 Treadshot, also due to the small-to-no amounts of fiction they received.

But don't forget that there IS a G1 Side Burn now, so SG Side Burn isn't technically a non-G1 SG character anymore.

However, SG Side Burn came before G1 Side Burn. Also, his body is a repurposing of Universe RiD Side Burn. Besides, while Jetstorm is technically a G1 character's counterpart, all them are the odd-man out in their factions. (Except for Jetstorm's lack of one.)

Retcons aren't anything new to this franchise.

Plus, technically, RiD Side Burn's Japanese counterpart (who thus also shares his body design), Speedbreaker, is a G1 character.

Before, or after the great retcon aka "shoehorn-everything-into-one-single-continuity"?

Before.

That color scheme looks great on the Jazz mold. If only they were releasing this in stores, I'd be all over this.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Can someone tell me who G1 Treadshot was? Can't find him on tfu.info

Action Master

So if his color scheme used to be black, grey, and pink - why is it now blue and yellow?

Stormrider wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Can someone tell me who G1 Treadshot was? Can't find him on tfu.info

Action Master

So if his color scheme used to be black, grey, and pink - why is it now blue and yellow?

See you are thinking too hard about it. Shattered Glass NOW simply means "wrong colors". The SG color wheel has been thrown out. Shattered Glass actually comes from the latin: Shate Gas. Which is when one has a bowel movement on his design work. LOL I kid.

Stormrider wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Can someone tell me who G1 Treadshot was? Can't find him on tfu.info

Action Master

So if his color scheme used to be black, grey, and pink - why is it now blue and yellow?

Because this isn't the SG verison of G1 Treadshot, but rather, it is the SG version of Universe (2003) Treadshot.


...who was a redeco of Armada Side Swipe, hence why SG Treadshot uses Armada Side Swipe's colors.