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BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby Mindmaster » Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:45 pm

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That's what I was getting at: Micromaster homages that transform into weapons for these larger figures.

There doesn't seem to be any ports that they can plug into on their larger partners' vehicle modes.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:57 pm

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I'm pretty disappointed with Doubledealer. I was hoping he'd show up in the Generations line, but not as a repaint. Everything else looks awesome though.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby zatara1701 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:11 am

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Ok...

Overall, most look pretty good. Like most people, I can do without all the repaints, BUT we all know Hasbro has to get the most bang for their buck... I will admit, unlike many of my G1 contemporaries, that too often we forget how many repaints were thrown around back in the day :BANG_HEAD: ...Hell 90% of what's now called G2 were straight up repaints of G1 lol :lol:

Anyways, here is my ONE complaint...Why the "F" do we get a Swerve instead of Gears?!? I can only hope that Gears comes up as a repaint, but we're celebrating 30 years, lets honor the first ones to pop up!! :HEADHURTS:
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby Bounti76 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:39 am

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You know....technically, this Skids is a LOT closer to his original G1 toy incarnation. His toy altmode is a Honda City Turbo, which is a subcompact hatchback, similar in size to a Honda Fit, Ford Fiesta, etc. I've read that he was portrayed with a minivan-ish altmode in the G1 comics because more people would recognize a minivan (which were brand new then) than a subcompact hatch, which even now are far more popular in Japan. In real life, Skids' altmode is about the same size as Bumblebee's. But we all know how great G1 was with scale :lol:

But I get what you mean. I grew up reading the comics, and even now, I go a little geewun on things that are supposed homages or updated versions of characters I grew up with. Trailbreaker/Trailcutter's robot mode for his new deluxe being a good example. It has the right colors, but not in the right proportions, and he should have a red visor instead of blue goggles. [-( But I'll probably buy him anyway. :oops:
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby Dead Metal » Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:18 am

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I'm getting that Rinox and Waspinator, the rest is nice but uninteresting for me. More Beast Wars please.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby The Variable » Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:32 am

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I'm getting that Swerve, and I'm going to give him DOTM Optimus' Mechtech weapon to be the Shoomer...
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby Arctorro » Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:29 am

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Looking at the gallery of these toys that was posted in another thread my response upon seeing Skids was :KREMZEEK: Then I noticed Waspinator and :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: Then I saw Rhinox and accidentally hit myself in the head :grin:

Those three are instant buys for me, not that interested in the others.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby skidflap » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:34 am

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Was expecting flywheels but...Doubledealer...

HAPPY DANCE :DANCE: :DANCE:

Anyways these new generations look awesome. :BEAVIS: :BUTTHEAD:
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby Stormrider » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:12 am

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zatara1701 wrote:Ok...

Overall, most look pretty good. Like most people, I can do without all the repaints, BUT we all know Hasbro has to get the most bang for their buck... I will admit, unlike many of my G1 contemporaries, that too often we forget how many repaints were thrown around back in the day :BANG_HEAD: ...Hell 90% of what's now called G2 were straight up repaints of G1 lol :lol:

Anyways, here is my ONE complaint...Why the "F" do we get a Swerve instead of Gears?!? I can only hope that Gears comes up as a repaint, but we're celebrating 30 years, lets honor the first ones to pop up!! :HEADHURTS:


I am guessing Swerve was done b/c he has a lot of facetime in the IDW comics. I am sure Gears will be a repaint.

Personally, I like this Swerve 10 time better than iGear's version.


Evil_the_Nub wrote:I'm pretty disappointed with Doubledealer. I was hoping he'd show up in the Generations line, but not as a repaint. Everything else looks awesome though.


I feeling the same way about Doubledealer.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby Arctorro » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:03 pm

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Stormrider wrote:
Evil_the_Nub wrote:I'm pretty disappointed with Doubledealer. I was hoping he'd show up in the Generations line, but not as a repaint. Everything else looks awesome though.


I feeling the same way about Doubledealer.
Unless Doubledealer gets the same level of retooling as Sandstorm I'll be passing as well. They did something great with Sandstorm then dropped this half arsed thing on us shortly afterwards, typical Hasbro :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby craggy » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:57 am

I'd probably have passed on Gears if he was first out. If Swerve is good, and he looks like he will be, I'll possibly get the Gears repaint/retool (new head please?)
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby RiddlerJ » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:17 am

Arctorro wrote:
Stormrider wrote:
Evil_the_Nub wrote:I'm pretty disappointed with Doubledealer. I was hoping he'd show up in the Generations line, but not as a repaint. Everything else looks awesome though.


I feeling the same way about Doubledealer.
Unless Doubledealer gets the same level of retooling as Sandstorm I'll be passing as well. They did something great with Sandstorm then dropped this half arsed thing on us shortly afterwards, typical Hasbro :BANG_HEAD:


They should've kept the face swapping gimmick. He could've switched between a robot face and a bird face depending on which side he was working for.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby wolverinetodd » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:33 pm

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tigertracks 24 wrote:Wonder if that Cosmos is the unproduced titanium version? Old schoolers take a look.

I like the execution on DDealer. Couple wishes. Give his wings feather looking (and totally unrealistic) paint to add to the homage and make a big cannon projectile that looks like DDs cannon of old.

Love the idea from above that he would keep the face changing gimmick go Blitzwing. Too bad it probably isn't happening.

The mistransformations are BAD. And yet I think it's an inside joke now, possibly.


I can understand why they wouldn't make Double Dealers' flight mode more raptor-like, more bird-of-prey-like, as it was in G1, because they already have the mold like this and they aren't going to change it. However, I agree, giving the wings a feathery appearance and instead of a shark face on the nose, go with a bird-of-prey's hooked beak. Of course, this just opens the door for www.Reprolabels.com to step in and give us the bird labels it will surely need.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby wolverinetodd » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:37 pm

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skidflap wrote:Was expecting flywheels but...Doubledealer...

HAPPY DANCE :DANCE: :DANCE:

Anyways these new generations look awesome. :BEAVIS: :BUTTHEAD:


I'm still holding out for a repaint of this mold into Flywheels. If not, I can always buy Blitzwing and repaint him myself.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby wolverinetodd » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:40 pm

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craggy wrote:guess I can skip that Legends Starscream now, awesome deluxe Waspinator it is!

Skids is pretty cool too. Don't mess with him, he's a theoretician, man!

I'd really have preferred them give that repaint to Beast Hunters Predaking, so we could have had a Goldar lookalike be a bit more accurate, without the faceplate, he's not Goldbug to me, although I suspect it will at least be comic accurate, given events in the last issue.

Doubledealer is no Flywheels, but he'll do probably. If I hear that they've fixed the issues with the Blizwing mold (same as they did with Sandstorm locking together in alt mode much better than Springer).

Cosmos and Swerve will be getting bought. I hope they repaint Swerve's wee buddy to be the Groundshaker plane as well. He's perfect for that.


I'm liking Double Dealer, but I was hoping for Flywheels as well. And like you, I'm curious if the shoulder locking/not locking issue has been corrected on Double Dealer. That's a question that should've been asked on the toy panel.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby wolverinetodd » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:44 pm

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necr0blivion wrote:Awesome galleries! I think Skids and Rhinox are the best looking figures out of these sets, and glad that Cosmos and Swerve are also getting a place.

Doubledealer was a surprise, but from these pictures it looks like the mold still suffers the problems with Blitzwing: nose-cone doesn't fit in properly in jet mode and shoulder doesn't pop in all the way in robot-mode. Is it too late to tell Hasbro about these issues, or do they even care?


When has Hasbro ever listened to us commoners on such issues? :-? But surely by now they are aware of the shoulders-not-locking-into-place issue and have addressed it before they release Double Dealer. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby Stormrider » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:45 pm

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I am not digging this mold for Double Dealer and the coloring is off. I think a missle launching vehicle fits him better than a tank and a plane.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby Arctorro » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:18 pm

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Arctorro wrote:
Stormrider wrote:
Evil_the_Nub wrote:I'm pretty disappointed with Doubledealer. I was hoping he'd show up in the Generations line, but not as a repaint. Everything else looks awesome though.


I feeling the same way about Doubledealer.
Unless Doubledealer gets the same level of retooling as Sandstorm I'll be passing as well. They did something great with Sandstorm then dropped this half arsed thing on us shortly afterwards, typical Hasbro :BANG_HEAD:


They should've kept the face swapping gimmick. He could've switched between a robot face and a bird face depending on which side he was working for.
Doubledealer is the one that really needs that gimmick, shame =;
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby Agamemnon » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:12 pm

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Arctorro wrote:
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Evil_the_Nub wrote:I'm pretty disappointed with Doubledealer. I was hoping he'd show up in the Generations line, but not as a repaint. Everything else looks awesome though.


I feeling the same way about Doubledealer.
Unless Doubledealer gets the same level of retooling as Sandstorm I'll be passing as well. They did something great with Sandstorm then dropped this half arsed thing on us shortly afterwards, typical Hasbro :BANG_HEAD:


They should've kept the face swapping gimmick. He could've switched between a robot face and a bird face depending on which side he was working for.
Doubledealer is the one that really needs that gimmick, shame =;
And maybe Punch/Counterpunch. Or Sideways.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby Wh33l Jck » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:24 pm

THis is kinda the wrong forum, but why is Takara Hoist up for preorder, but Hasbro Hoist isn't up yet?
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby stevescustoms » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:07 pm

I love the Beast Wars molds. Rhinox ans Waspinator look awesome.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby synapse » Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:04 am

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I never thought I would ever feel like buying any BW related figures (well, except Lio Convoy if there was a REALLY good one for him, as I love his design), but I'm really digging both Waspinator and Rhinox.

Skids looks great, comic-accurate enough, I just hope it's not so tiny and "full of hollow" as recent Generations/FoC releases. I didn't buy a single official figure this year because of that :(

Doubledealer looks nice, just... not Doubledealer.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:34 pm

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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby Mindmaster » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:35 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Really think they should have made Blitzwing into Flywheels instead of Doubledealer.


I thought the same. But Doubledealer does look appetizing...
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Re: BotCon 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations on Display

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:10 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Really think they should have made Blitzwing into Flywheels instead of Doubledealer.


I thought the same. But Doubledealer does look appetizing...


And G1 Doubledealer happens to be be one of my favourite toys. :x
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