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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Strika Revealed

Postby Mindmaster » Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:40 pm

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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Strika Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:12 am

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Don't forget guys that this is set in the Wings Universe, which itself is meant to be an alternate universe take on the G1 cartoon continuity. So even if one were to think that the G1 cartoon took place in the same timeline as the BM cartoon, this story wouldn't be set in that same timeline.

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BM Stika wasn't pink, she was dark purple:

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Mkall wrote:Wait, when was it confirmed that this was retconed into G1 Strika? I've only seen it as fan justification with no real word either way.
The wings Universe text story "Flames of Yesterday" did the retcon (and the teal bot next to her was made into Glyph).

But, this is the first that I've heard of it ever being fan speculation. Did that originate from the ATT days?
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Strika Revealed

Postby reluttr » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:26 am

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reluttr wrote:That's odd, I have always associated the term "G1" to both the original toyline and the timeline set in the sunbow cartoon.

I see what you are saying though, your separating them by toyline, like how armada is a separate toyline/story from energon, but both occur in the same continuity.

Strika was in the g1 cartoon briefly though. She was a very...ahem...bulky lass, but more pink.

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Wait, when was it confirmed that this was retconed into G1 Strika? I've only seen it as fan justification with no real word either way.


Ehh... no idea, I am just going off what I read on the TFWiki page.

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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Strika Revealed

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:07 am

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reluttr wrote:That's odd, I have always associated the term "G1" to both the original toyline and the timeline set in the sunbow cartoon.

I see what you are saying though, your separating them by toyline, like how armada is a separate toyline/story from energon, but both occur in the same continuity.

Strika was in the g1 cartoon briefly though. She was a very...ahem...bulky lass, but more pink.

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Wait, when was it confirmed that this was retconed into G1 Strika? I've only seen it as fan justification with no real word either way.


Ask FunPub, they retconned this lady into Strika for their Wings Universe.
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Strika Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:08 am

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I already gave an answer to his question, guys:
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Mkall wrote:Wait, when was it confirmed that this was retconed into G1 Strika? I've only seen it as fan justification with no real word either way.
The Wings Universe text story "Flames of Yesterday" did the retcon (and the teal bot next to her was made into Glyph).

But, this is the first that I've heard of it ever being fan speculation. Did that originate from the ATT days?
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Strika Revealed

Postby Mkall » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:19 am

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Sabrblade wrote:I already gave an answer to his question, guys:
Sabrblade wrote:
Mkall wrote:Wait, when was it confirmed that this was retconed into G1 Strika? I've only seen it as fan justification with no real word either way.
The Wings Universe text story "Flames of Yesterday" did the retcon (and the teal bot next to her was made into Glyph).

But, this is the first that I've heard of it ever being fan speculation. Did that originate from the ATT days?

I call it Fan Speculation because the first I heard of it, people were posting that screenshot, pointing at the pink Fem(ish)-bot and saying "That could be G1 Strika"

I don't follow Club Fiction closely because I see it as simply Toy Justification, hence I was unaware that they had done that in canon.
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Strika Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:29 am

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Mkall wrote:I call it Fan Speculation because the first I heard of it, people were posting that screenshot, pointing at the pink Fem(ish)-bot and saying "That could be G1 Strika"
Ah okay, thanks. I asked since I thought it might have been cool if this were something that fans had been thinking of for years and finally made canon. Guess not, though.
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Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby paul053 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:05 pm

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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby GuyIncognito » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:11 pm

Ugh, ugliest one yet. Why do they insist on giving every Botcon or TFCC figure a garish eye-searing paint job? I guess the theme for 2013 is "Ugly it up".
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Bass X0 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:15 pm

Its accurate to the original toy. But maybe the actual toy will be less garish eye-searing looking.
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby GuyIncognito » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:18 pm

It IS an accurate homage, I'll give it that. But it's an homage to a crappy figure that doesn't an homage, IMO.
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:30 pm

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OK, Strika has her buddy and we have (one of) the larger figures in the set. Using the HftD Highbrow mold was a given, really. :) Can't wait for the final reveal next week.
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby mooncake623 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:35 pm

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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby LOST Cybertronian » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:38 pm

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The fourth figure reveal in the Machine Wars BotCon 2013 boxset is Obsidian. This figure follows the reveals of Hoist, Skywarp and Strika. Obsidian uses the Hunt for the Decepticons Highbrow mold with yet another new head. The image has been mirrored below for your convenience.

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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Mkall » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:40 pm

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The thing that saddens me the most is that Strika and Obsidian aren't in scale with eachother anymore. Still the homage makes sense, but I'm hoping for less brighter colours on the actual toy.
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby RAcast » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:44 pm

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Obsidian never looked so good! 8)
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Shadowstream » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:46 pm

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One by one the exclusives keep getting uglier and uglier and having to do less and less with machine wars... It's quite cleat they dun dropped the ball, but did they have to drop it so far and so hard?
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:52 pm

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Oh god, can no one get his color scheme right, it's not that hard. :HEADHURTS: Any how this ones very unimpressive in my opinion, there a lot better figures to use for Obsidian.
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Burn » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:56 pm

Shadowstream wrote:One by one the exclusives keep getting uglier and uglier and having to do less and less with machine wars... It's quite cleat they dun dropped the ball, but did they have to drop it so far and so hard?


It's FunPub. It's their specialty. >:oP
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby DrRX8 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:03 pm

ahhh UGLY! I am not buying this. I would rather save up for the new springer, blitzwing, IDW figures...and METROPLEX!

Please stop making ugly figures with crappy movie molds!
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:05 pm

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh god, can no one get his color scheme right, it's not that hard. :HEADHURTS: Any how this ones very unimpressive in my opinion, there a lot better figures to use for Obsidian.


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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby NOS » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:06 pm

That's disappointing. Strika is a win, but her counterpart is a loss.

Really poor color scheme choice. :/
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Janus Prime » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:15 pm

Oh snap dudes! I love it, look at the head sculpt! I loved Obsidian and Strika in BM, the only two characters that made any sense to me. I hope Hasbro takes note and give us new molds for them... some day.
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby TK415 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:21 pm

I know about Machine Wars. I know about Beast Machines. Did I miss some reading somewhere? Is it "Botcon Beast Machine Wars?" Is it "Machine Wars (and oh, by the way, we are including Beast Machines but not bothering to title it?)" I'm not a CC member, was it explained somewhere that I didn'read. A little help? Thanks.
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:32 pm

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TK415 wrote:I know about Machine Wars. I know about Beast Machines. Did I miss some reading somewhere? Is it "Botcon Beast Machine Wars?" Is it "Machine Wars (and oh, by the way, we are including Beast Machines but not bothering to title it?)" I'm not a CC member, was it explained somewhere that I didn'read. A little help? Thanks.


Me think we'll be digging in the origins of the two Generals, via G1/G2. After all, in Beast Machines they were described as the greatest strategic minds of history, we'll probably get to see that in action here.
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