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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:49 am

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Though it may require a new head and I don't know if that's in the budget.

I wonder why FunPub has never done repaints as the E-Hobby sold characters. Detritus, Magnificus, Deep Cover and so on. There would be a good load of repaints that require no retooling and would probably make a lot collectors happy.


Animated Arcee has already been used for 2011 Drag Strip (don't laugh).

And FunPub does seem to have some form of access to eHobby characters with BotCon 2007 Bug Bite, Magnificus being repurposed as SG Perceptor, and SG Tracks/Road Rage.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby duo_maxwell_1017 » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:35 am

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby RiddlerJ » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:48 am

They have
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:I'm still betting on a Animated Arcee repaint as Nightracer G2

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Nightracer_%28G2%29

Though it may require a new head and I don't know if that's in the budget.

I wonder why FunPub has never done repaints as the E-Hobby sold characters. Detritus, Magnificus, Deep Cover and so on. There would be a good load of repaints that require no retooling and would probably make a lot collectors happy.


Animated Arcee has already been used for 2011 Drag Strip (don't laugh).

And FunPub does seem to have some form of access to eHobby characters with BotCon 2007 Bug Bite, Magnificus being repurposed as SG Perceptor, and SG Tracks/Road Rage.


They have reused molds more than once. I can't believe they redesigned Nightracer without considering a possible mold to use. If she doesn't appear this year, then I could see it down the line like they did with Thunderblast/Elita-One.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby gothsaurus » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:49 am

Agreed about making a lot of fans happy with eHobby/Diaclone versions. That could be an entire SET and I'd be happy. New characters and story, but vintage classic toy models. That's a win-win.

Same for a new Nightracer, which would go great with the G2 lineup. With that being an early signature character, I'd PRAY they'd do a custom head sculpt for that.

But yeah, any femmebots are going to get a resounding echo of "yes" from the fans, IMHO.

I still hope we get maybe one Shattered Glass character slipped in... like, one a year, if it's a good repaint option. SG Magnificus would be fantastic. (looks great in black) Still trying to think of any other major show characters that were left out of the SG universe... and one's that would have an interesting Machine Wars alter ego if repainted. Hmmm.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Henry921 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:28 am

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Despite the fact I've been blasting this set for weeks, rereading through this thread and reexamining the figures has left me feeling... interested.

Today, I almost considered buying an Iacon Package. I think it's because Megaplex is actually growing on me a bit, even if I wish he had a more traditional Megatron-y head sculpt.

I'm losing it. I need someone to remind me of FunPub's abysmal track record and poor planning. Where is Burn when you need him?
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby El Duque » Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:51 pm

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The official BotCon 2013 website has posted new images of Obsidian in his new updated color scheme. Obsidian will join Strika, Hoist, Megaplex, and Skywarp in this year's convention exclusive Machine Wars: Termination box set. Check out the images mirrored below.

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For comparison here's a side by side with the initial reveal:

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Rated X » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:01 pm

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I do like this much better. Although it is very similar to G2 Powerdive, they wont be on the same shelf.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Mkall » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:02 pm

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I like this a lot better. Finally, The Club scores some positive points.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Poyguimogul » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:23 pm

I honestly wanted the green one... I have never seen the BM show so I have no connection to those colors...
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Noideaforaname » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:23 pm

Much better.

Didn't notice it before, but the rotors are evidently translucent.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby TK415 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:46 pm

Old color scheme = hurts my eyes
New color scheme = beautiful!

Lime green can make a fun toy but it’s a bit bright on the screen, though it has been a long day at work. He looks pretty wicked in dark green. And I don't mean "wicked or wizard," I mean he looks intimidating. You don't get intimidating from lime green. Rated X is right, he is now pretty similar to Powerdive, but the purple guns on Powerdive’s hips work to diminish his wickedness.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby RAcast » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:32 pm

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I still have a soft spot for the toy's colors, but it makes more sense to do the screen-accurate colors I suppose.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Henry921 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:45 pm

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And his eyes turned green. Um, why?

While I like the new color scheme better overall, I do think the head looks a bit less menacing now.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Bumblevivisector » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:54 pm

Poyguimogul wrote:I honestly wanted the green one... I have never seen the BM show so I have no connection to those colors...

Well, I DID see all of Beast Machines, and therefore have trouble saying anything about BM that doesn't turn into some sort of incitement to violence, so I'll just leave it at that...

...but before I watched the show all the way through, Obsidian was one of the few toys I had from the line, and there was something I always liked about it, so I would've really preferred the bright green too. I guess it came out around the time he debuted on the show, but because his toy came out so long before Strika's, his blinding color scheme carries a prehistory connotation in my mind, like black Ironhide, so it would've made more sense to me in that respect if these are Obsidian and Strika's bodies back in G1-ish days. Despite how much happier I'd be if the 'toon never existed, I did sort of appreciate the later toyline's attempts at show-accuracy out of general principle, but a show-accurate color scheme on a mold that's not exactly more show-accurate isn't necessarily better...but the new head makes it work, I suppose. I don't have Power-sack yet, but I was also looking forward to an Obsidian as different from him as possible. But again, the new head compensates...is three approaching a record for the number of different official heads a mold has had? I've lost track of all the new heads Fun-Pub has done.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:56 pm

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Henry921 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:58 pm

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Henry921 wrote:And his eyes turned green. Um, why?
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Fair enough.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Mindmaster » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:01 pm

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...Now I'm even more willing to buy this (never going to happen, though), seeing Obsidian in that deco. =P~
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Heckfire » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:10 pm

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby rpetras » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:53 pm

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby g1grimlock » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:14 am

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I really like the new color. Not only is it better on the eyes but it's more accurate to the show. It' a win win! :KREMZEEK:
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby El Duque » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:19 pm

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The official BotCon 2013 website has posted the box art for this year's Machine Wars: Termination convention exclusive set, which features Obsidian, Strika, Skywarp, Megaplex, and Hoist. The box will feature a cut out window reminiscent of the original Machine Wars packaging along with General Obsidian artwork. Check out he box art below.

The five-figure boxed set, which includes General Obsidian, General Strika, Commander Megaplex, Clone Warrior Skywarp, and Autobot Hoist, will be presented in an illustrated display box but, for the first time ever for BotCon, will also feature a cut out mimicking the style of the original MACHINE WARS packaging. This set can be displayed alongside all of your previous BotCon sets and/or your classic Machine Wars toys! Also included with the set is a certificate of authenticity, tech specs and figure weapons.


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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:21 pm

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With only Obsidian as the packaging art for 5 figures? Weird move.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby rpetras » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:25 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:With only Obsidian as the packaging art for 5 figures? Weird move.



I'd showcase him too.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Seibertron » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:46 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:With only Obsidian as the packaging art for 5 figures? Weird move.


I agree. I would've preferred the "scene" artwork depicting the 5 characters in an action shot or moment similar to previous years. It would've been interesting to see a mock-up of the box done in a hybrid G1 Combiner giftset with Machine Wars styling.

What I don't like about this style is too much emphasis on one character when it should be about the set as a whole. Hopefully this point doesn't get lost on the comics like it has during the past 4 or 5 BotCons since the 2010 sets onward.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Skullcrunchberries » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:15 pm

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I get where they're going, and like it. What I don't like is the only characters/figures visible in the art aren't Machine Wars characters >____>

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