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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby MGrotusque » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:37 am

Great head sculpt. As ugly as it is.
Seriously though......that's a face only a mother could love.

Great choice of molds as well. I'm particularly fond of that sparkly blue plastic in the shoulders and hands.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:57 am

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby YoungPrime » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:58 am

This figure is the only saving grace to an otherwise corny Botcon lineup.

It's still a pass but Hasbro would've been wise to sell this figure at retail.

The rest I think are crap.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Mindmaster » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:04 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:if we get some figures that homage Beast Wars characters in the Thrilling 30 subline.
I wouldn't get my hopes up, since the Thrilling 30 toys are themed around IDW G1 characters. Waspinator's toy made sense since he appeared in "Spotlight: Thundercracker".


True.

But I kinda wanted a bigger Waspinator though...
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:06 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:if we get some figures that homage Beast Wars characters in the Thrilling 30 subline.
I wouldn't get my hopes up, since the Thrilling 30 toys are themed around IDW G1 characters. Waspinator's toy made sense since he appeared in "Spotlight: Thundercracker".


True.

But I kinda wanted a bigger Waspinator though...
Good thing the Waspy that appeared in the comic was basically in his BW 10th Anniversary toy body. ;)
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Mindmaster » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:13 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:if we get some figures that homage Beast Wars characters in the Thrilling 30 subline.
I wouldn't get my hopes up, since the Thrilling 30 toys are themed around IDW G1 characters. Waspinator's toy made sense since he appeared in "Spotlight: Thundercracker".


True.

But I kinda wanted a bigger Waspinator though...
Good thing the Waspy that appeared in the comic was basically in his BW 10th Anniversary toy body. ;)


Which, on the life of me, I cannot find anywhere at a reasonable price. :BANG_HEAD:

Plus, I've got other priorities, so until those are fulfilled, Waspinator, like many past figures I'd like to get, isn't on my list.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Henry921 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:27 pm

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Oh, agreed. I like her much more than before.

This set's really grown on me. I'm still disappointed overall, but I hate it slightly less each time.

Damn it, I might have to get her too. I was going to be happy with just Obsidian and the two Seekers...
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby El Duque » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:12 pm

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The official BotCon facebook page has shared production sample images of Machine Wars Skywarp from this year's convention exclusive Machine Wars: Termination box set. As you can see the figure sports a brand new head mold and a nice teleporting translucent effect on the it's wings in jet mode.

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby megatronus » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:34 pm

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The effects & new head sculpt, although very cool, are not nearly enough to save this terrible, terrible mold.

Props for trying, though.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:40 pm

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Oh god, the white plastic is so bland and unpainted that most of the details become flat, bland, unnoticeable. Although, the new headsculpt's quite nice. :D
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby DevastaTTor » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:51 pm

Thank goodness for the drop shadow effect! If not for that, I'd swear this was a photo of some missiles and blobs of paint.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby GuyIncognito » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:43 pm

So is this the worst figure in the set?
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Mindmaster » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:56 pm

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GuyIncognito wrote:So is this the worst figure in the set?


Pretty much. >:oP

I have the original Revenge of the Fallen NEST Dirge version; I think it's okay, but only as that specific character in that specific line. Using it as anyone else just doesn't look right. In my opinion, the mold they should have used for this specific character should have been Prime FE Starscream.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Henry921 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:08 pm

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GuyIncognito wrote:So is this the worst figure in the set?


Depends. I personally like it better than Hoist, but he's still far from being my favorite.

This one looks really bland. Should've guessed the white plastic would go largely unpainted...
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby gothsaurus » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:52 pm

Okay, while I have mixed emotions about the set... and mold choices... I do really like the teleporting effect. Since I don't have this mold — or any movie molds — it may be fun to mess with.

Mind you, I hope they can avoid movie molds in the future... especially MIXING them. They don't fit with the aesthetics of the other figures, and I'd much prefer some Classics for Botcon.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Mindmaster » Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:04 pm

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gothsaurus wrote:Since I don't have this mold — or any movie molds — it may be fun to mess with.


I wouldn't get my hopes up. From my experiences with this particular mold, I'd give it a 7-7.5 out of 10. The fact he has two visible canopies (one of which is the faux part you see on the chest) is one of my main issues. You can always take it off - in fact, I've actually lost that piece - but even then, it's still meh. Especially the "shield" arm, as I call it.

Mind you, I hope they can avoid movie molds in the future... especially MIXING them. They don't fit with the aesthetics of the other figures, and I'd much prefer some Classics for Botcon.


I'm with you there. If they opt for a movie theme, I'd have no problem, 'cuz you know, movie :P . Maybe even add a couple molds from lines past here and there into said theme (they've done it before, and it didn't look too bad). But mixing movie molds in with fictions such as this aesthetically doesn't look good on the toys in my opinion. Same goes for Prime figures.

They really should have retooled Megaplex with a Megatron-esque head, but the damn budget only allows for four retoolings. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Rated X » Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:47 pm

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You gotta love the way Funpub poses his arms to make him look symmetrical. I'm no fan of the "teleporting" wings, It's just as silly as battle damage. But Ill take him, I've seen worse.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby RAcast » Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:59 pm

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There's one complaint about Skywarp that bugs me. I accept that the mold is...an acquired taste, to say the least, and that the unpainted white plastic washes out ALL of the molded detail.

But Skywarp has a mid-warp deco. How is that not a good thing? It's even pulled off quite nicely; it's subtle but effective. I mean...maybe they should have made it -less- subtle? Maybe made the entire thing translucent? But all in all it's a pretty good effect.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Bumblevivisector » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:28 pm

RAcast wrote:the unpainted white plastic washes out ALL of the molded detail.

Up until now, I'd have called insanity on anyone considering customizing a Botcon exclusive, considering you could always modify its mass-release counterpart and not destroy a limited figure. But this toy's whitewashed detail just scream at you to be be brought out with a dry-erase marker, Gundam style!

Maybe the right shade of purple could even enhance the starting-to-warp effect?
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Mindmaster » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:29 pm

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RAcast wrote:the unpainted white plastic washes out ALL of the molded detail.

Up until now, I'd have called insanity on anyone considering customizing a Botcon exclusive, considering you could always modify its mass-release counterpart and not destroy a limited figure. But this toy's whitewashed detail just scream at you to be be brought out with a dry-erase marker, Gundam style!

Maybe the right shade of purple could even enhance the starting-to-warp effect?


Even then, I wouldn't dare customize or kitbash in any way, shape, or form. =;
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby RAcast » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:34 pm

Motto: "Can't stop, so what! That's how I like it!"
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Mindmaster wrote:
Bumblevivisector wrote:
RAcast wrote:the unpainted white plastic washes out ALL of the molded detail.

Up until now, I'd have called insanity on anyone considering customizing a Botcon exclusive, considering you could always modify its mass-release counterpart and not destroy a limited figure. But this toy's whitewashed detail just scream at you to be be brought out with a dry-erase marker, Gundam style!

Maybe the right shade of purple could even enhance the starting-to-warp effect?


Even then, I wouldn't dare customize or kitbash in any way, shape, or form. =;

Yeahh, if you have any intent to sell it ever, I wouldn't touch it. You'd be better off buying a mass release one. Someone will probably recreate the head on shapeways at some point if enough people are interested.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Henry921 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:12 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:They really should have retooled Megaplex with a Megatron-esque head, but the damn budget only allows for four retoolings. :BANG_HEAD:


The head sculpt limit isn't the excuse they're using. Earlier in this thread it was mentioned that Dreadwing's mold became available very late in production. One could infer there wasn't much time to do anything but repaint it.

Still, if wishing made it so...
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