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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:00 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And it looks like El Duque needs more coffee, as it's Skywarp, not Dirge.


You have no idea, just got into NYC for Toy Fair.


I'm sorry :( Hope you'll make it out there alive.

I have RotF Dirge and Gen. Sergeant Kup right here next to eachother, and Dirge is short! I don't think he's the worst jet mold out there, mind you. Makes me wonder who they'll pick for Megatron/Megaplex.

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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby Nemesis Destron » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:15 pm

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Okay that's 2 for 2 not so impressive Botcon releases so far, but there is still hope says I! :VEHI:
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby MightyMagnus78 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:17 pm

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With that paint scheme he looks very G1 Jetfire-esque?
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:20 pm

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MightyMagnus78 wrote:With that paint scheme he looks very Jetfire-esque?


Just a bit, even the original looked like that:

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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby DevconSupreme » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:35 pm

:-x Complete garbarge man! None of the fan-club exclusives are ever breath taking let alone worth the price they ask. Machine Wars was a terrible line like G2 was in my opinion.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby Megatron Wolf » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:39 pm

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could've picked a better mold, dont get me wrong ROTF dirge is a great figure but out of all the jet molds we've had over the years there are far better ones to use.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby osubreeze » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:40 pm

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Wow. Very shiny.

With 2 figures out now, what I thought would happen might be. The "Machine Wars" having Movie style robots versus "Classics" style.

I'm quickly becoming less impressed with this set.

However, per the Botcon and TFCC Twitter feed, they said this one may not impress. Look for the 3 - 5 molds.

So they say.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby dedcat » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:35 pm

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MW Skywarp was repainted to BWII Dirge, now Movie Dirge gets made into MW Skywarp. clever.

I remember this being one of the more enjoyable movie molds play-wise, so I'm not terribly upset.

I would have liked some retooling to make it a bit less 'movie-esque.' At the very least, some normal hands.

I'm holding out hope that Thundercracker gets his own unique mold, even though the original was a Skywarp repaint.

Overall, it is a good looking toy and I really dig the head sculpt. But please, no more retooled movie as classics figures. (Especially Breakaway!)
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby Flux Convoy » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:35 pm

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Looks fine to me. It's a mold I don't have too. He might not spend his time in bot bode but I bet his jet mode is nice. I'm actually surprised at the mold choices so far. I kinda like that.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby Blurrz » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:46 pm

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That is one mold that does not deserve to be in a box set
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby STngAR » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:48 pm

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osubreeze wrote:Wow. Very shiny.

With 2 figures out now, what I thought would happen might be. The "Machine Wars" having Movie style robots versus "Classics" style.

I'm quickly becoming less impressed with this set.

However, per the Botcon and TFCC Twitter feed, they said this one may not impress. Look for the 3 - 5 molds.

So they say.




Really?? That statement raises all kinds of questions in my mind


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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby Overcracker » Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:45 pm

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Definitely not impressed. But I'm calling it: Souvenir sets with Megaplex and Thundercracker Repaints of this.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby Counterpunch » Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:19 pm

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Ugh...this is not very good. Not very good...

I don't hate it but it does nothing at all for me. Thing was, I thought movie molds might make for interesting MW figures.

It isn't a bad figure but it is by no means a "good" toy either.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby DISCHARGE » Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:22 pm

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Blurrz wrote:That is one mold that does not deserve to be in a box set



Thank you.

I love the original Machine wars stuff.
I avoided this toy originally. This was a weak choice. I would have preferred a ROTF Thrust(I actually like that toy) repaint over this.

Honestly I would really have preferred Animated Activators Starscream etc..
That toy does the automorph so...

Whatever, I only get one or none most of the time anyway.
This would not be the one :lol:
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby ShadowGinrai » Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:49 pm

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I don't know about you guys, but I loved that mold when I got it as ROTF Dirge. I like it just as much now. Honestly, this one impresses me more than the first reveal. :CON: :KREMZEEK: :CON: :G2CON: :MR-T: :G2CON: :TRANSCON: :RENEGADE: :TRANSCON:
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby Cyber Bishop » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:55 pm

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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby Blurrz » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:59 pm

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Its funny that my first experience for this toy was from someone who posted on this page, as I think Counterpunch just threw this into one of our deals when he was selling off his movie figures. Same thing essentially happened to me as I only have a few remaining, and it took awhile for me to realize why I'm off put by the Dirge mold, and it's more or less because the main three seekers are always about symmetry. Obviously it sucks when there's only one gun, but overall the majority of seeker molds have body symmetry, such as Energon (which would make for a great Machine Wars Skywarp... but that mold is probably dead in the water).

Out of movie molds ROTF Breakaway would have been a better choice I think. That's probably hindsight bias because atm this MW Skywarp is a big turnoff from getting anything else in this set.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby Flashwave » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:35 pm

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Shoddy photoshop job is sh... Wait, is he supposed to Bepaintedlikethat?

I love the Dirge mold, perhaps because I love the Harrier jumpjets, of which the mokd is based on. I am Not sold by is toy thouh, and I think, looking at pictures, the breakaway mold would've looked more better. On the plusside, if the club now has access to the Harrier alt, maybe its high past time we poke them with a stick to get a G1 Slingshot (yes, i know, this is a machine wars set, i thinking down the road) out of it, because he too turned into a harrier jump jet, or something different enough to avoid the licsencing for one, anywat
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby rpetras » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:22 am

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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby Counterpunch » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:41 am

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Blurrz wrote:Its funny that my first experience for this toy was from someone who posted on this page, as I think Counterpunch just threw this into one of our deals when he was selling off his movie figures. Same thing essentially happened to me as I only have a few remaining, and it took awhile for me to realize why I'm off put by the Dirge mold, and it's more or less because the main three seekers are always about symmetry. Obviously it sucks when there's only one gun, but overall the majority of seeker molds have body symmetry, such as Energon (which would make for a great Machine Wars Skywarp... but that mold is probably dead in the water).

Out of movie molds ROTF Breakaway would have been a better choice I think. That's probably hindsight bias because atm this MW Skywarp is a big turnoff from getting anything else in this set.


I remember that...

Also, agree on Breakaway, would have been much better.

With the Dirge mold, the jet is great.

Any one of his problems could be overlooked. However...they start to compound.

Asymmetrical, lousy arm kibble, too much clutter all over the legs...

This is the type of toy I buy to explore new designs and engineering. It isn't the kind of toy that I want out of a Botcon set.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby Bowspearer » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:55 am

Suddenly the missing crane on MW Hoist isn't the biggest letdown for the set. The mould choice is terrible. Botcon is a massive letdown this year. I was really looking forward to Machine Wars being the theme (I've been waiting for someone to do something with MW since 1997). But honestly, articulation aside, these actually seem like a downgrade on the original figures.

Pity, this would have been the first Botcon set I would have moved heaven and Earth to get had it been done right...
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby Burn » Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:05 am

It's stuff like this that makes me really miss the originality 3H had.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby Henry921 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:21 am

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I think we can all agree we like the head sculpt. Aaaaand that's it.

Seems I was optimistic thinking the three Seekers would be the army building 3-pack this year... :BANG_HEAD:

I'm guessing we'll probably get Thundercracker either in the box or as the attendee freebie, and as both of the announced molds are new variations on existing MW characters, I'll bet there will be very few new characters in whatever the club's story ends up being.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby Sinnertwin » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:59 am

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I don't mind that. Never got into MW, so the history behind it isn't a factor for me.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Skywarp Revealed

Postby RhA » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:14 am

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This one does nothing for me. But then again, the spectacular ones have yet to be shown.
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