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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Mkall » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:22 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro requested the toy colors for Obsidian, but Fun Pub seemed to want to do show colors for both and were only permitted them for one.

As a result, both mediums get homaged with Strika representing the show and Obsidian the toy.

Rated X mentioned the GDO Powerdive toy as a possible reason for Hasbro making them go with Obby's toy colors since his show colors would be similar.

But honestly, would you think Strika would have been as well received as she was if she had her less-than-awesome toy colors? Those show colors on Strika are gorgeous and I'd take her even without Obsidian. =P~

I would've preferred a matched pair wither Cartoon or Toy colours. One of each just doesn't make sense really and is kind of like a shoulder-shrug really.

I was going to make a pun about you taking Strika while Obsidian's back is turned, but I really can't think of a good one which is kind of a rarity actually.
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:28 am

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Mkall wrote:I was going to make a pun about you taking Strika while Obsidian's back is turned, but I really can't think of a good one which is kind of a rarity actually.
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Seibertron » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:51 am

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Seibertron wrote:Not really ... it appears to be homaging the Animated Strika's color scheme.
Those are Strika's BM cartoon colors.

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While Animated Strika has them too, BM Strika had them first and that's who this toy is meant to evoke.

Mkall wrote:
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Mkall wrote:So Obsiduan is toy accurate in colour but Strika isn't. There's a fail there.
Not Fun Pub's fault. It was requested of them to make Obsidian in toy colors.

It is their fault. They're producing the darned thing. So why not make Strika in toy colours?
Hasbro requested the toy colors for Obsidian, but Fun Pub seemed to want to do show colors for both and were only permitted them for one.

As a result, both mediums get homaged with Strika representing the show and Obsidian the toy.

Rated X mentioned the GDO Powerdive toy as a possible reason for Hasbro making them go with Obby's toy colors since his show colors would be similar.

But honestly, would you think Strika would have been as well received as she was if she had her less-than-awesome toy colors? Those show colors on Strika are gorgeous and I'd take her even without Obsidian. =P~


I agree about Strika's colors. I keep forgetting she looked so different in BM ... been a long time since I've watched it. I've had the toy out more recently ....

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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:00 am

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Seibertron wrote:I agree about Strika's colors. I keep forgetting she looked so different in BM ... been a long time since I've watched it. I've had the toy out more recently ....

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Man, I'd kill to see that toy colored show-accurately.* It always bugged me as a kid how pale she looked compared to her awesome cartoon deco. 8)

* - The Beast Wars Returns toy was closer, but pink =/= purple, and some of the little details were bit off. :-(
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Mr_Ash » Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:29 pm

The more I look at it, the more I like it.

I think it's great they opted for Obsidian's toy-colors. FunPub have given both Strika and Obsidian their [IMO] best color palettes based on what visual information exists of them. Purple Strika and a big bright green Obsidian? Sign me up!

Curious to see what the final reveal is, that will be the decider for me between getting the Box set or going the ebay route for Strika and Obsidian. Hoist and Skywarp aren't of any real interest for me personally.
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby FracturedKoi » Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:30 pm

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I was excited when I heard this would be a Machine Wars set...until they started showing us less and less Machine Wars toys. T_T

What is this Beast Machine Wars, now? D=
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:23 pm

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FracturedKoi wrote:I was excited when I heard this would be a Machine Wars set...until they started showing us less and less Machine Wars toys. T_T

What is this Beast Machine Wars, now? D=


You probably stopped reading or listening to the news after you heard it would be a Machine Wars set from your excitement. Because, if you had been keeping up, they specifically told us that they were giving us new characters other than the existing Machine Wars toys. Why this bit of easily comprehensible detail is such a surprise to people now is beyond me. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby FracturedKoi » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:07 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:
FracturedKoi wrote:I was excited when I heard this would be a Machine Wars set...until they started showing us less and less Machine Wars toys. T_T

What is this Beast Machine Wars, now? D=


You probably stopped reading or listening to the news after you heard it would be a Machine Wars set from your excitement. Because, if you had been keeping up, they specifically told us that they were giving us new characters other than the existing Machine Wars toys. Why this bit of easily comprehensible detail is such a surprise to people now is beyond me. :BANG_HEAD:


Sarcasm duly noted and ignored, but I digress. I did hear that news and was intrigued by it at first, assuming they'd take existing G1 characters and give them a 'what if so-and-so were released as a MW toy,' treatment. I'm not, nor have I ever been, a fan of Beast Wars/Machines. Yes, yes, I know, 'GEEWUN,' but shoehorning BM characters into MW just doesn't do much for me.

Besides...BM is too easily mistaken for standing for something else altogether =D.

(At any rate, I can't wait to see if they do a MW Optimus/Megatron and what those look like!)
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby LOST Cybertronian » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:11 pm

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In the last bit of BotCon 2013 news today, they have posted an alt mode image for Obsidian on the official BotCon website. The robot mode for Obsidian posted last week can be seen here.

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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby RAcast » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:19 pm

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Obsidian...where's your faction symbol, bro?
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby PrymeStriker » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:19 pm

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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby #Sideways# » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:19 pm

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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby RAcast » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:24 pm

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#Sideways# wrote:Wow. Why am I liking this so much?!

Because that color scheme is GLORIOUS! :VEHI:
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Henry921 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:27 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:Still no faction symbol. :-(


Obsidian and Strika are loyal only to Cybertron itself. They ally with whoever's in power, whoever that is.


I like his vehicle mode, but I still have no idea why a propeller driven aircraft fits in with the Machine Wars aesthetic.
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby RAcast » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:30 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:Still no faction symbol. :-(


Obsidian and Strika are loyal only to Cybertron itself. They ally with whoever's in power, whoever that is.


I like his vehicle mode, but I still have no idea why a propeller driven aircraft fits in with the Machine Wars aesthetic.

Obsidian isn't just a propeller driven aircraft. He's a propeller driven aircraft enthusiast! :P
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:34 pm

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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:42 pm

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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Manterax Prime » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:46 pm

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If only 3H hadn't tanked, we would still be getting AWESOME botcon figures, but no.....FunPub wants screw us over for crap.

But overall, it's Hasbro's fault for revoking 3H's rights to the TF line in the first place.
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Mindmaster » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:59 pm

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It looks decent. But honestly, I think that they should have worked with the first Movie Incinerator. Highbrow just doesn't shout "Obsidian" to me.
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:01 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:It looks decent. But honestly, I think that they should have worked with the first Movie Incinerator. Highbrow just doesn't shout "Obsidian" to me.
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Mindmaster » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:14 pm

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Really? Never knew that.

Plus, this was his body before he became a helicopter.


Technically speaking, the V-22 Osprey isn't a helicopter. It is, however, designed with the functionality of both a helicopter and a plane. So it's kinda a neener-neener.

(And what I love about the Osprey aircraft is that only United States Marines and a tee-wee bit of the Air Force uses them. As an aspiring Marine, this amuses me :P )
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Henry921 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:18 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:It looks decent. But honestly, I think that they should have worked with the first Movie Incinerator. Highbrow just doesn't shout "Obsidian" to me.


I don't particularly care for his alt mode either, but I'd rather he have hands in robot mode. :lol:
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Re: Botcon 2013 Machine Wars Obsidian Revealed

Postby Manterax Prime » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:32 pm

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Really? Never knew that.

Plus, this was his body before he became a helicopter.


Technically speaking, the V-22 Osprey isn't a helicopter. It is, however, designed with the functionality of both a helicopter and a plane. So it's kinda a neener-neener.

(And what I love about the Osprey aircraft is that only United States Marines and a tee-wee bit of the Air Force uses them. As an aspiring Marine, this amuses me :P )


Ah, but he wasn't an Osprey in Beast Machines. He was a Cybertronian helicopter. Now, Megaplex better be good, or it's no BotCon for me.
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