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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:41 pm

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Seibertron wrote:You realize what this really means, right?

On-screen movie stuff and a good chunk of non-screen Movie stuff is off-limits thanks to licensing concerns
Precisely. That's what I've been trying to say.

If it didn't come across that way in my previous posts, I apologize, but the molds of any on-screen characters and their redecos from all four Movieverse toylines, as well as any non-screen mold from the 2007-2008 Movie line (like Longarm and Incinerator), have licensing issues with Paramount that keep Fun Pub from being able to use them at their leisure.

Meaning that the only Movieverse toys they can use at their disposal are non-screen character molds from ROTF, 2010, and DOTM.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Seibertron » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:44 pm

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Seibertron wrote:You realize what this really means, right?

On-screen movie stuff and a good chunk of non-screen Movie stuff is off-limits thanks to licensing concerns
Precisely. That's what I've been trying to say.

If it didn't come across that way in my previous posts, I apologize, but the molds of any on-screen characters and their redecos from all four Movieverse toylines, as well as any non-screen mold from the 2007-2008 Movie line (like Longarm and Incinerator), have licensing issues with Paramount that keep Fun Pub from being able to use them at their leisure.

Meaning that the only Movieverse toys they can use at their disposal are non-screen character molds from ROTF, 2010, and DOTM.


I don't think you understood what I meant with my question. You realize what "thanks to licensing concerns" really means, right? Like I've been saying, it comes down to $$$$
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:38 pm

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Seibertron wrote:I don't think you understood what I meant with my question. You realize what "thanks to licensing concerns" really means, right? Like I've been saying, it comes down to $$$$
I kinda figured that went without saying.

I know there are those of us who'd be willing to pay an additional $20 to an already $365 set, but there's still many (like myself) who aren't fond of that $365 price that only gets more and more pricey each year (minus '05 to '06).
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Caelus » Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:00 am

Jhiaxus has a funny idea of cloning, and its practical application.

"Hey Optimus! Welcome back to base! I hope your mission was successful; when did you get the elaborate black and teal paint job? And the red optics?"

It's right up there with Skynet churning out thousands of infiltrators that all look exactly like Arnold Schwartzenegger.



And really, within the context of Transformers, I guess maybe you don't have to look much like someone to be their body double.

Megaplex, "Come, and face your doom at the hands of Megatron!"

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Megaplex, "Megatron? I meant Galvatron. I got blown up again last week and this is my new, super powerful body."

Autobot soldier, "Primus help us! Megatron has a new body! He's invincible until the novelty wears off!!!"
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Henry921 » Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:28 am

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Caelus wrote:"Primus help us! Megatron has a new body! He's invincible until the novelty wears off!!!"


:lol:

Same as it ever was.

The Autobots will need a bruiser to match up with Megaplex. Maybe the at-show exclusive Voyager will be a leader type? Such as UM?
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Caelus » Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:17 am

TF PRID Ultra Magnus actually has some substantial similarities to Machine Wars Prime (COE truck, no face plate, no window chest).

I'm still confused about the licensing, but I could imagine Allspark Incinerator as MW Sandstorm, which would be a shame because that paint scheme would look better on Highbrow's body, and Obsidian's design would look better on Incinerator. In my opinion.

Almost anything else means going outside of Machine Wars - which they're obviously willing to do - but opens the field so much that who could guess?

EDIT - Doh! I forgot Skyhammer. Dark of the Moon Skyhammer would be a pretty logical choice for being repainted into Machine Wars Sandstorm.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:05 am

I like Hoist, Strika and Megaplex. I could pass on Skywarp and Obsidian. Those are hideous. But "Megaplex?" Kind of a dumb name, so that pushed it to the pass option. After the awesomeness that was the Stunticon set in 2011, they have swung and missed 2 years in a row. hopefully for next year, BotCon will knock another one out of the park, as I expect the event itself to be like in 2011, due to the 4th movie coming out.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Sinnertwin » Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:01 pm

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This set to me, looks like it doesn't know what it wants to be. Call me old fashioned, but i like boxsets to at the very least share the same aesthetics..Names, repaints dont bother me, but to have 3 different lines seems a bit of a stretch
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Rated X » Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:22 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Found this. Thought is was funny.

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Somebody who's NOT going to Botcon should e-mail this to Brian Savage. (I would do it but Im going and I dont want to be purposly screwed for poking fun at their choice) Just like last years SG Soundwave Headband, Funpub can push out last minute extras if the fans call for it bad enough. I would even pay a little extra for a new head if it was an optional purchase at the club store.

And if not, Im sure Renderform, Beezleboss, or Dr. Wu will hook us up.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:31 pm

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Caelus wrote:Jhiaxus has a funny idea of cloning, and its practical application.

"Hey Optimus! Welcome back to base! I hope your mission was successful; when did you get the elaborate black and teal paint job? And the red optics?"
Only the Decepticons are clones in this Fun Pub story. So Hoist, Strika, and Obsidian are their true selves, and Optimus (if he shows up but the brochuse says he's out of commission) would likely be himself too. ;)
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Caelus » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:27 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Only the Decepticons are clones in this Fun Pub story. So Hoist, Strika, and Obsidian are their true selves, and Optimus (if he shows up but the brochuse says he's out of commission) would likely be himself too. ;)


Sorry, I was thinking of Straxus, you'll have to forgive me for confusing them, it just seems like Jhiaxus and Straxus are becoming oddly more and more similar as time goes by.

I mean, they were both bad@$$es in their day, but Straxus was like a poor man's Dr. Doom while Jhiaxus was portrayed as so unstoppable he was more akin to Thanos.

Jhiaxus was a physically imposing war machine, and then he was... the equivalent of MODOK? No, wait, now he's definitely MODOK. An awful lot like someone else.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Axelbro » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:08 am

strika and obsidian i hope we will get thrust tankor and jetstorm for a nice shelf :-?
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby RAcast » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:17 am

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Axelbro wrote:strika and obsidian i hope we will get thrust tankor and jetstorm for a nice shelf :-?

It's Machine Wars, not Beast Machines. :BANG_HEAD: We're getting backstory for the two generals.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Mindmaster » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:18 am

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Axelbro wrote:strika and obsidian i hope we will get thrust tankor and jetstorm for a nice shelf :-?


Nope. Because Tankor, Thrust, and Jetstorm were Rhinox, Waspinator, and Silverbolt, respectively, in new bodies with shell programming hiding their true identities. We already have pre-Beast Wars toys of Waspinator and Rhinox.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Mindmaster » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:19 am

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Axelbro wrote:strika and obsidian i hope we will get thrust tankor and jetstorm for a nice shelf :-?

It's Machine Wars, not Beast Machines. :BANG_HEAD: We're getting backstory for the two generals.


Beast Machine... Wars? :P
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Anonymous. » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:49 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
Axelbro wrote:strika and obsidian i hope we will get thrust tankor and jetstorm for a nice shelf :-?


Nope. Because Tankor, Thrust, and Jetstorm were Rhinox, Waspinator, and Silverbolt, respectively, in new bodies with shell programming hiding their true identities. We already have pre-Beast Wars toys of Waspinator and Rhinox.



Who knows bud, we got a new SG Optimus Prime in '12 despite one being released in '09.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:05 pm

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Axelbro wrote:strika and obsidian i hope we will get thrust tankor and jetstorm for a nice shelf :-?


Nope. Because Tankor, Thrust, and Jetstorm were Rhinox, Waspinator, and Silverbolt, respectively, in new bodies with shell programming hiding their true identities. We already have pre-Beast Wars toys of Waspinator and Rhinox.



Who knows bud, we got a new SG Optimus Prime in '12 despite one being released in '09.
That was in case those who missed out on the '08 set could have one for the '12 set since they were doing SG again.

Here, Jetstorm, Tankor and Thrust don't have untold backstories that need fleshing out like Strika and Obsidian do.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Va'al » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:51 pm

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From the Transformers Facebook page:

BotCon has revealed all five figures for their upcoming exclusive "MACHINE WARS: TERMINATION" box set, and now we have your first look at the character art for these amazing Transformers characters! Check out Skywarp, Megaplex, Strika, Obsidian and Hoist, with art by the very talented Josh Burcham.

Check out all the toys and find out how you can order this EXCLUSIVE five-figure box set at http://www.botcon.com/BotCon2013/


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First artwork revealed of Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set

Postby Seibertron » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:01 pm

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Thanks to fellow Seibertronian Va'al for letting us know about the following information and image from the Transformers Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/transformers

BotCon has revealed all five figures for their upcoming exclusive "MACHINE WARS: TERMINATION" box set, and now we have your first look at the character art for these amazing Transformers characters! Check out Skywarp, Megaplex, Strika, Obsidian and Hoist, with art by the very talented Josh Burcham.

Check out all the toys and find out how you can order this EXCLUSIVE five-figure box set at http://www.botcon.com/BotCon2013/


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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby RAcast » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:26 pm

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That just looks FANTASTIC! I love the aesthetic!
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby RhA » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:49 pm

Motto: "BRING ME DANGER!"
Luckily, we don't have to pay 300$+ for this image, which is the best thing about this set so far.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Rated X » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:53 pm

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If they were going to draw Obsidian with propeller hands, they should have just went with the Incinerator mold. It would have been a better alt mode. And sombody please photoshop a Megatron head on that Megaplex drawing and tweet the crap out of it. If the fans give them hell, maybe by June theyll have some Megatron heads made like they did green headbands last year.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:58 pm

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Rated X wrote:If they were going to draw Obsidian with propeller hands, they should have just went with the Incinerator mold.
Not when Paramount holds (part of?) the license to that mold.

Rated X wrote:And sombody please photoshop a Megatron head on that Megaplex drawing and tweet the crap out of it. If the fans give them hell, maybe by June theyll have some Megatron heads made like they did green headbands last year.
I'd agree if this was meant to be the same guy as the 1997 Megaplex.

2013 Megaplex and 1997 Megaplex will both appear in the story as two separate individuals from each other. 1997 Megaplex is still Megatron's decoy clone, but 2013 Megaplex is... a new guy with his own purpose for existing.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Optimizzy » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:27 pm

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I dont think I know how this works. Why are they limited on what molds they can use? Which molds can they use?
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Rushie » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:32 pm

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I believe the exclusive nature of Movie molds only holds for characters whose robot modes were featured in the films and licensed vehicle modes. Thus, Bludgeon and Dirge can be used. And Incinerator is a officially licensed Osprey, Highbrow/Obsidian is merely inspired by the P-38 Lightning.
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