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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:21 pm

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Hoitytoity wrote:I get where they're going, and like it. What I don't like is the only characters/figures visible in the art aren't Machine Wars characters >____>

Beast Machine Wars all the way, apparently.


Technically speaking, only MW Hubcap was a Machine Wars original character, the rest was a collection of returning G1 characters. Obsidian and Strika, while Beast Machines originals, had their backstory roots in pre-Beast Wars (read G1) time if we're to believe their fame in the show.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby g1grimlock » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:04 pm

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It looks good and bad, hopefully this isn't the final product because it could definitely use some or a lot of adjustments. One thing that would make it look better is some actual box art instead of just Obsidian looking silly. I do like the fact that they are showing some of the toys in the box unfortunately Obsidian steals the show again! :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Henry921 » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:50 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Hoitytoity wrote:I get where they're going, and like it. What I don't like is the only characters/figures visible in the art aren't Machine Wars characters >____>

Beast Machine Wars all the way, apparently.


Technically speaking, only MW Hubcap was a Machine Wars original character, the rest was a collection of returning G1 characters. Obsidian and Strika, while Beast Machines originals, had their backstory roots in pre-Beast Wars (read G1) time if we're to believe their fame in the show.



What about Megaplex?

While Obsidian is probably the best figure of the set, I'd argue that Megaplex is the one they should be highlighting, as in this storyline, he's the guy leading all the carnage and throwing Cybertron into conflict.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Seibertron » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:15 pm

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Henry921 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Hoitytoity wrote:I get where they're going, and like it. What I don't like is the only characters/figures visible in the art aren't Machine Wars characters >____>

Beast Machine Wars all the way, apparently.


Technically speaking, only MW Hubcap was a Machine Wars original character, the rest was a collection of returning G1 characters. Obsidian and Strika, while Beast Machines originals, had their backstory roots in pre-Beast Wars (read G1) time if we're to believe their fame in the show.



What about Megaplex?

While Obsidian is probably the best figure of the set, I'd argue that Megaplex is the one they should be highlighting, as in this storyline, he's the guy leading all the carnage and throwing Cybertron into conflict.


Megaplex with a new Megatron head should've been the showcased figure.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Henry921 » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:23 pm

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Seibertron wrote:
Megaplex with a new Megatron head should've been the showcased figure.


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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby ILL-Star » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:28 pm

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I think Obsidian's vehicle mode over Megaplex's typical jet mode is a more interesting look. Plus it has a more steam punk kind of appearence which in my opinion says Machine more than the smooth stream lined jet.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Henry921 » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:35 pm

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All this talk of Obsidian... I just noticed something.

It isn't visible in the stock photography, but in the box in vehicle mode, it looks like he's got faction symbols on his frame. Kinda hard to tell what... it looks almost like a G2 Decepticon sign.

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:09 am

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Henry921 wrote:All this talk of Obsidian... I just noticed something.

It isn't visible in the stock photography, but in the box in vehicle mode, it looks like he's got faction symbols on his frame. Kinda hard to tell what... it looks almost like a G2 Decepticon sign.

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That wouldn't make sense as Obsidian and Strika are Autobots in this case, in charge of the protection of Cybertron (something that's carried to the extreme in Beast Machines).

And I did forget Megaplex, stupid me #-o And supposedly he's a new clone made by Jhiaxus, separate from the original Megaplex (original clone? Oxymoron central right here). That would explain away his new noggin, as his G2 Go-Bot clones (the G1-named ones) looked nothing like the originals.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby gothsaurus » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:52 am

Oh... I bet they used his pic because he's the one you can see thru the window. It's always a bit of a puzzle to cram them into the box. Could have just ended up that layout? Who knows... Still looks pretty good, though I miss the big battle scene. I hope they do a litho.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Henry921 » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:24 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
That wouldn't make sense as Obsidian and Strika are Autobots in this case, in charge of the protection of Cybertron (something that's carried to the extreme in Beast Machines).

And I did forget Megaplex, stupid me #-o And supposedly he's a new clone made by Jhiaxus, separate from the original Megaplex (original clone? Oxymoron central right here). That would explain away his new noggin, as his G2 Go-Bot clones (the G1-named ones) looked nothing like the originals.


Perhaps this story will fill in that blank. Maybe Obsidian started out on the wrong side before Strika showed him the path of justice?

It may just be an unrelated sigil, but it looks like a G2 Decepticon logo to me.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Dagon » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:33 am

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Henry921 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
That wouldn't make sense as Obsidian and Strika are Autobots in this case, in charge of the protection of Cybertron (something that's carried to the extreme in Beast Machines).


Perhaps this story will fill in that blank. Maybe Obsidian started out on the wrong side before Strika showed him the path of justice?

It may just be an unrelated sigil, but it looks like a G2 Decepticon logo to me.


That's a good point. Maybe they were the greatest generals on opposite sides of the conflict, before joining up together. They could both be loyal to Cybertron before any faction loyalties, but just took different routes in order to serve Cybertron.

Could Strika and OBsidian be the warring machines of the title, seeing as they are the two figures shown and are facing each other on the boxart? Perhaps this story is about them fighting each other before teaming up to repel a greater threat?

I know, JelZe, I know the Jihaxus thing for the storyline this year. I don't need any clarification or whatever.It's just an idea.

I also really like the box design.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:20 pm

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If you look really close, those symbols on Obsidian's tail fins are Highbrow's pretzel thingies, not G2 decepticon symbols. he even has the "P+10" tampo

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby RAcast » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:39 pm

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:If you look really close, those symbols on Obsidian's tail fins are Highbrow's pretzel thingies, not G2 decepticon symbols. he even has the "P+10" tampo

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That explains why the art on the box looks NOTHING like Obsidian's actual colors. It's presumably just a mock-up at this point?
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Henry921 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:25 am

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Ah, pretzel things. Of course! :lol:

Shows what I know, I never owned the mold.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Mindmaster » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:29 am

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Henry921 wrote:Ah, pretzel things. Of course! :lol:

Shows what I know, I never owned the mold.


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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby El Duque » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:25 pm

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The Official Transformers Collectors' Club has received a final sample of this year's BotCon convention Machine Wars: Termination box set. The set features Obsidian, Strika, Skywarp, Megaplex, and Hoist. Check out the image mirrored below.

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:29 pm

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Mkall » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:37 pm

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My lack of interest notwithstanding, that's a nice looking box. I much prefer Obsidian in this colouration than that hideous neon green we saw at the start.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Seibertron » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:16 pm

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Mindmaster » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:00 pm

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I like them, but I'm still not thrilled with Skywarp's mold.

Shame I can't afford this. :-(
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:14 pm

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Henry921 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:46 pm

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Mkall wrote:My lack of interest notwithstanding, that's a nice looking box. I much prefer Obsidian in this colouration than that hideous neon green we saw at the start.


Looks like Obsidian's final deco has removed the numbering and "pretzels" from the Highbrow mold.

I'm amazed they managed to fit all the figures in that box, given how much space Obsidian takes up...
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Flux Convoy » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:34 pm

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The comments on Facebook confirm the "sticker" IS actually a sticker. Pretty neat touch. I dig it. Can't wait to be there. :)
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby El Duque » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:27 am

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Thanks to the facebook page of the official Transformers Collectors' Club we a look at Strika from this year's BotCon exclusive Machine Wars: Termination box set. The figure is a redeco of Generations Warpath with a brand new head mold. Take a look below.

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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Mindmaster » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:30 am

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Much better head design than the first one we saw when she was first teased.

If this set had been available at regular retail, I would pick this up with out a doubt, along with Obsidian, to start building a neo-Beast Wars/Machines shelf, if we get some figures that homage Beast Wars characters in the Thrilling 30 subline.
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