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BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

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BotCon 2013 News: Beast Hunters Cyberverse Commander and Legion toys official product images

Postby Seibertron » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:41 pm

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Here are the Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Cyberverse Commander and Legion toys official product images that Hasbro were revealed at today's Transformers Brand product panel at BotCon 2013.

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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby Genocide G2.0 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:43 pm

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RHINOX!!!! :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: . DOUBLEDEALER Noooooo !!!! WASPINATOR!!!! :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK:
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BotCon 2013 News: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Deluxe and Voyager toys official product images

Postby Seibertron » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:45 pm

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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:47 pm

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Whoop! Waspinator! :KREMZEEK: :PREDACON:

Also: Why are Legion class toys labeled as Deluxe here?
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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby Genocide G2.0 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:50 pm

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OMG That Rhinox and Waspinator are F*cking AMAZING :BOOM:
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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby Mindmaster » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:51 pm

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Dreadwing, Skids, and Waspinator can't get any more perfect. They went beyond perfect. =P~ I guess I finally have my excuse for getting that Bumblebee mold. I'd much rather have it as Goldbug than Bumblebee. [-(

Swerve and Cosmos look adorably awesome! Glad I held out from third party companies and GDO Generations for these guys. But I'm not really into their partners. Do they transform into weapons? :???:

Doubledealer's new head kinda threw me off. Not sure why. But I do like the way it looks, however. So what faction will he be advertised, Autobot or Decepticon? It appears he has the Autobot badge on his tank mode.

Not too keen on Rhinox's rhino mode, but that robot mode is just too gorgeous to pass up! :BOWDOWN:

Not really into the Beast Hunters Legions and Commanders. Bluestreak doesn't look very... Bluestreak-y.

The Beast Hunters Deluxes and Voyagers... all kinds of fail. Seriously, what went through their minds, upscaling the Legends figures for Bumblebee, Smokescreen, and Optimus? :BANG_HEAD: Twinstrike and Windrazor are okay, I guess. Should have given Twinstrike some elbows. >:oP
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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby grimdragon2001 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:01 pm

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Really loving the generations reveals, and the deluxe terrorcons, hoping they will release the whole combining set. i hope they repaint that Swerve into Gears
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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby Autobot032 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:02 pm

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Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Whoop! Waspinator! :KREMZEEK: :PREDACON:

Also: Why are Legion class toys labeled as Deluxe here?


Because Hasbro is screwing us over with the Beast Hunters line. Those ARE Deluxes. They took the Legion Class figures and upsized them to Deluxe. They just gave them new paint jobs and new accessories, that's it. No added articulation like elbows, knees or a balljointed head, nope. Straight up upsizing of the Legion molds.

Same with Commander Class being turned into those new Voyagers of Optimus and Predaking.

I'm hoping this just stays with Beast Hunters and doesn't cross over into Generations. Those new "Deluxes" and "Voyagers" are a joke.

Now, onto the reveals...

Skids: BOUGHT.
Waspinator: BOUGHT.
Cosmos: BOUGHT.
Swerve: Iffy. (Maybe.)
Rhinox: BOUGHT. (But he looks more like a Deluxe, rather than a Voyager. Shows his tooling is somewhat simplified. So, perhaps the Beast Hunters planning will carry over to Generations.)

So far, I'm terribly unimpressed and saddened. I'm already missing Aaron Archer and his team. I realize these toys are aimed at kids, and that's fine, but if you make it too simplistic, they won't like them either. They're one step away from Rescue Bots, well, the Beast Hunter Deluxes, that is. Power Rangers Megazords and their components have more complexity than some of the upcoming stuff, and they're just stylized bricks!

I'm afraid to see what they do to TF4 toys. I really am. If this continues, I might quit Transformers altogether. No, I'm serious. I REFUSE to pay Deluxe pricing for a Legion figure. They look like terrible knock offs! I'd rather own a knock off!

P.S. I forgot to mention... Not only did they upsize the Legions, but they stripped the combining functionality from Windrazor and Twinstrike. Their combiner pegs are missing from their legs/feet. Yeah. WTF, Hasbro? Are you serious? Are you trolling us with this ****?! I'm so angry I'm swearing.
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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby Noideaforaname » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:03 pm

Generations = Amazing!
Prime = :SICK:

Seriously, they literally upscaled Legion figures into Deluxes! WAT?!
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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby NovaSentinel » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:09 pm

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Whoever Hasbro's marketing guy is, FIRE THEM. Seriously. There is no freaking way I am going to be forking out £13-£14 for a figure with 4 POINTS OF ARTICULATION. The only good thing to take away from this is that the Predacons will more than likely be able to combine into a deluxe scaled Abominus.

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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby Mindmaster » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:18 pm

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NovaSentinel wrote:Whoever Hasbro's marketing guy is, FIRE THEM. Seriously. There is no freaking way I am going to be forking out £13-£14 for a figure with 4 POINTS OF ARTICULATION. The only good thing to take away from this is that the Predacons will more than likely be able to combine into a deluxe scaled Abominus.


It was okay back in the Generation One days, where toy technology was beginning to progress. But I agree: if they make the other Predacon Terrorcons, and they all feature the combining gimmick, I'll get those. But as for Smokescreen, Bumblebee, Optimus, and Predaking...

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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby Genocide G2.0 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:22 pm

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I never realised those terrorcons were the legion size up scaled please say these are place holders hasbro please :shock: .
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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby ILL-Star » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:22 pm

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This line is glorious. Finally Voyager Rhinox and it looks for Waspinator that all they did was replace all the parts of the original with brand new updated ones. Which is excellent! While Doubledealer may not be a vulture/falcon and artillery carrier, I am very happy to see him. But boy do we need a Tarantulas more than ever. The Thrilling 30 is very thrilling.
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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby King Kuuga » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:24 pm

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Monkey see, monkey do. :D I love the 'Hasbro observing people' bit. Seriously, I WOULD LOVE to observe Hasbro marketing board meetings. Do these people live in closets, or did the brand testing on a bunch of kitbashers take a while to perfect?

Please try and take my post lightly. I'm aware of restrictions and what not. Shelf space allocation, stores' unwillingness dictating products, aiming things at kids who have the attention span of a goldfish to make sure they don't wander to the Ben 10 aisle and all that. But really, this just sounds like a bunch of people stepped out of a cave one day and said 'wow, this is how people play with our toys?' then frantically and excitedly makes notes :D ahhh, business men never change. :lol:

You nailed it.


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Generations. AMAZING. Definitely getting Cosmos, Waspinator, and RHINOX! *drools* (side note: I could have sworn there was a "drool" emote, but I can't find it) Might get Goldbug and Swerve. Probably not getting Doubledealer, although I like what they did with him. The shark face on the jet nosecone is a nice homage both to a real military practice and Doubledealer's original Decepticon beast mode.
Beast Hunters: *cries* :BANG_HEAD: Bludgeon from Commander Shockwave is bloody amazing, and that's about the best I can say. Megatron redeco is Megatron redeco. Ultra Magnus from Commander Prime...well, they tried. Should've just had the shoulder pauldrons stick out behind the windvane like on the Voyager. 5/10 for the attempt. The upscaled "Deluxe" legions make me weep. They could, at the very least, have tweaked the molds and added some more articulation with the bigger size. They could still keep the old engineering and add in a few ball joints and hinges, damn it. I'm looking at you, Upscaled Twinstrike especially. Also, looks like you can't even combine the giant Terrorpreds into an Abominus, because the combiner pegs are missing from Twinstrike and Windrazor. I will get the redecos of all the proper legion-sized Terrorpreds because those are cool for the size, but these upscales are abominable. No pun intended.

So clearly, Hasbro just padding out the Prime line at this point while they focus on Generations and develop the movie 4 toys, probably launching next Spring. IT'S OKAY TO JUST END THE LINE, GUYS. It's gonna take a few months to clear out the old stuff anyway, so ship the last waves in time for Christmas, let the residual stock be picked at over the next few months, and let Generations carry the line until TF4. BAM. I think I just out-business'd Hasbro. This is what happens when you fire your senior marketing director.
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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby Mindmaster » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:25 pm

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Autobot Genocide wrote:I never realised those terrorcons were the legion size up scaled please say these are place holders hasbro please :shock: .


Quoted from the initial BotCon coverage from this afternoon:

Talked about going back to basics, demonstrated how easy it was to transform G1 Optimus Prime


I'm afraid that these are, indeed, 2014's Beast Hunters toys.
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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby MasterSoundBlaster » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:44 pm

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WASPINATOR!!!! Finally a classics Waspy that won't cost me an arm and a leg!!

It's a shame about the upsizing in the prime line, but I'm surprised they didn't boot Hardshell up and label him as just an Insecticon warrior.

Skids? It's not a bad choose, but I was hoping for Chromedome to get a figure first...oh well. We're getting Whirl so it's not too bad!
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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby Mkall » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:45 pm

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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby G1 Legacy » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:45 pm

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Well I can go ahead and tell you now that the gun Skids is holding in his left hand will be going to my Classics Prowl. I never liked the little fold-out pee shooter that came with that mold (even IF it fit in the undercarriage of the alt mode). Seems like weapons overkill for Skids anyway.

And Dreadwing looks like just another Sweep thanks to the stealth bomber update we got with Scourge a few years back, and that Goldbug is kinda hideous in my opinion.

As usual I was expecting a little more (especially this year with the impending anniversary looming), but I can't complain much considering the impending Hasbro Masterpiece line coming down the pipe. Those alone should be enough to keep my wallet busy for the next year or so.
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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby hinomars19 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:48 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:
Autobot Genocide wrote:I never realised those terrorcons were the legion size up scaled please say these are place holders hasbro please :shock: .


Quoted from the initial BotCon coverage from this afternoon:

Talked about going back to basics, demonstrated how easy it was to transform G1 Optimus Prime


I'm afraid that these are, indeed, 2014's Beast Hunters toys.


This is shocking, and utterly ludicrous. Children are children. They are not stupid. They are simply smaller and younger than us. Going back to basics? To anyone who was there, was the guy who said that particularly smug with himself? I bet he was. Another amazing brainstorm session that confirmed to them all wholeheartedly that this was the way to go. Sad thing is, they believe this shtick. :HEADHURTS:
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Minus the trailer, he has no more than 5! 5 transformation steps, and looks a million times better than this idiocy.
Again, to the good people at Botcon right now, if it is at all possible (which I doubt since they are probably now back in their containment suits analyzing the brainwaves of children via mind flight over the astral plane) could you please PLEASE show this post and the battle convoy link to somebody at Hasbro. Please? PLEASE??

Oh, and now we all know why Takara are padding out the line with those combiners. And knowing is half the battle. :BOT:
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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby Manterax Prime » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:49 pm

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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby ldsam01 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:51 pm

I want the Ultra magnus for the forge and to give hi regular optimus primes guns. :D :grin: :grin:
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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby waaaaghlord » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:59 pm

I've liked the legends/legion figures ever since they were introduced in the Cybertron lines. Excepting the movie figures I've not missed many Hasbro releases in that time, and that's with the price tag seeing a 66% increase in that time. The size has always been part of the attraction. I don't want deluxe sized figures with legion simplicity and articulation. Hopefully this will be a short lived experiment.
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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby RAcast » Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:03 pm

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Er...Upscaled Legions...Not sure that I like this. Depends on whether or not the TerrorPreds combine I suppose.

Kinda dig the new voyager molds for Optimus and Predaking, they're definitely better than the last ones.
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Re: BotCon 2013 News: Hasbro's Transformers Brand Panel

Postby hinomars19 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:07 pm

Motto: "never forget what you don't know"
Weapon: Blunt Force Battle Clubs
'Brand panel'
God I hate business men. Yes I know I'm getting snarky all over the boards and I apologize for the broken negative record, but for fudges' sakes, when will these people drop the 'we business men you common folk who buy anything' circus and actually realize that, at the end of the day we are all just intelligent adults sitting in a room together.
It DOES NOT require super powers, special abilities, degrees, fancy letters after our names or any other elitist label to design a TF toy. Kitbashers have been doing it for years. Fan artists have been doing it for years. Yes, yes, the business element is there, as I said in a previous post I DO KNOW of all the twaddle of getting 'into the market' Been there, done that. It's hard, realists are needed, not just the dreamers (artists, designers)
But honestly, is there a need for the pedestals? That separation between those who love this 'franchise'(ugh) and those that see it as nothing BUT a franchise?

I'll leave you all alone now.
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