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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby njb902 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:29 pm

I'm surprised we don't have a thread with our communities best guesses on figure worth/value/retail price, or do we and I just haven't stumbled upon it.
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby Arctorro » Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:32 pm

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njb902 wrote:I'm surprised we don't have a thread with our communities best guesses on figure worth/value/retail price, or do we and I just haven't stumbled upon it.

No idea, would there be one in the Buy, Sell or Trade forum?
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby VioMeTriX » Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:54 pm

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I have long wanted to start a comprehensive pricing guide for transformers... but making it work for all countries and cover all the figures in their homeland and imported value is just too much of an undertaking for me to do alone... if i could get 7 - 10 people to help out, i may do it.
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby Arctorro » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:09 pm

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VioMeTriX wrote:I have long wanted to start a comprehensive pricing guide for transformers... but making it work for all countries and cover all the figures in their homeland and imported value is just too much of an undertaking for me to do alone... if i could get 7 - 10 people to help out, i may do it.

I'd be happy to help where I can, but not really that up to date on the subject. I just buy things at a price that seems okay at the time.
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby njb902 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:18 pm

Arctorro wrote:
VioMeTriX wrote:I have long wanted to start a comprehensive pricing guide for transformers... but making it work for all countries and cover all the figures in their homeland and imported value is just too much of an undertaking for me to do alone... if i could get 7 - 10 people to help out, i may do it.

I'd be happy to help where I can, but not really that up to date on the subject. I just buy things at a price that seems okay at the time.


That about sums up my experience as well.
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby VioMeTriX » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:30 pm

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anyone that wants to help pm or email me... experience or not i can show you how to look these things up and be a to formulate what i call the expected price. one step at a time, this project will take more than a year to do correctly.

i will be starting a new thread in the coming weeks about this... i have to do some work up front to make it easy for everyone to contribute.
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby Arctorro » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:39 pm

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I'll be studying full-time soon, so my time will be limited. I'll keep an eye out for the thread and help any way I can.
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby Burn » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:55 pm

Arctorro wrote:
Burn wrote:
Arctorro wrote:How about we stop posting here, wait for Burn to kick our butts and have some happier chats in other threads :D


PM robofreak. I'm on lunch!

For once we might've grown up and sorted it ourselves :shock:


So my plan worked. I don't do anything, and either they keep going and we let "The Bishop" loose on them, or they get it out of their system.

Either way, I win by doing nothing.

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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby Arctorro » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:58 pm

Motto: ""A beast form is the right of all sentient beings.""
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VioMeTriX wrote:
Sinnertwin wrote:
Arctorro wrote:
Burn wrote:
Arctorro wrote:How about we stop posting here, wait for Burn to kick our butts and have some happier chats in other threads :D


PM robofreak. I'm on lunch!

For once we might've grown up and sorted it ourselves :shock:


You're all so grown up now, *wipes tear* ;)



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No... wait... I meant they, they have grown up!

Me no grow up! Me no grow up!!! :WHISTLE:
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby VioMeTriX » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:41 pm

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Man I have to grow old, theres no doubt about that. But I will never grow up!!! This is my mancave... well one corner of it

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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby RhA » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:22 am

Motto: "BRING ME DANGER!"
A priceguise is a pile of doggydoo-doo. What if people start to take it seriously? Say goodbye to all our nice GEEWUN bagains.
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby Sinnertwin » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:52 am

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I'm curious too see how we'd be able to keep track of it all
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby njb902 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:24 am

Sinnertwin wrote:I'm curious too see how we'd be able to keep track of it all


The only really hard part,after we have an initial base line , will be keeping track of the price swings of recent and semi recent figures. The further back we go the more consistent the changes in value should be.
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby Sinnertwin » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:41 am

Motto: "Take the foolish path, it's much more fun."
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njb902 wrote:
Sinnertwin wrote:I'm curious too see how we'd be able to keep track of it all


The only really hard part,after we have an initial base line , will be keeping track of the price swings of recent and semi recent figures. The further back we go the more consistent the changes in value should be.


Valid points. I'd like to be able to access a database as such. Difficult, but not impossible
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby Kibble » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:00 pm

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Problem with a price guide is the market fluctuates too much and too quickly. You want to know what your figure is 'probably worth', check the recent completed eBay listings to get an idea.

PS, was the '**** you' a site censor or an intentional censor?
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby Burn » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:38 pm

Seeing as some people get their knickers in a knot because they don't like it when I lock threads when a flamewar is either ready to erupt or well in progress, and because I'm sick and tired of waking up to find numerous pm's from people complaining about the people that are complaining about them, I have decided to waste my time (did I mention I'm on a three day weekend and have lots of personal stuff to do? hmmm ...) and split this topic up and removed the crap off-topic attacks from the last few pages (I'm not going back to the start).

In other words, I've spent a lot of time cleaning up a mess.

So this is what's going to happen.

There's a very good discussion going on in this thread. Keep it going. If I see ONE post, JUST ONE where someone is attacking someone else. This thread WILL be locked again and warnings issued to anyone who attacks another member.
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby RhA » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:52 pm

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Kibble wrote:Problem with a price guide is the market fluctuates too much and too quickly. You want to know what your figure is 'probably worth', check the recent completed eBay listings to get an idea.

PS, was the '**** you' a site censor or an intentional censor?


eBay is filled with crazy people.
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby VioMeTriX » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:02 pm

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too bad i cant wear this in public anymore, i almost got shot for it once.

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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby njb902 » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:44 pm

Another question I think that needs to be raised is what kind of support could we expect from the website itself? Would we need to bug the mods every time we need to make a change because this list will be long, so I don't think posting the entire thing again and again will be feasible. If we could get a dedicated mod for this project(if it moves forward) It would make some of the work easier.
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby Sinnertwin » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:23 am

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njb902 wrote:Another question I think that needs to be raised is what kind of support could we expect from the website itself? Would we need to bug the mods every time we need to make a change because this list will be long, so I don't think posting the entire thing again and again will be feasible. If we could get a dedicated mod for this project(if it moves forward) It would make some of the work easier.


I agree. Baby steps, perhaps start with everything from the last movie onwards? It would be a worthy addition to the website
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby VioMeTriX » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:41 am

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i have taken great pains to try and outline how this will take place. one of my managers at my company who also collects suggested a what it should be price based on logical apreciation and market demand... then a what it is column due to ebay inflation. this gives you a gray area of a safe realm to sell in. again i will be starting a thread asking for help once a real direction to go is figured out... and im still reading alll your suggestions, all good ones that will find their way in...
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby RhA » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:54 am

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It's impossible to determine, even if you account for age and whatnot.

The best I can figure is the highest price someone had ever paid for a figure and the lowest. That gives you an extremely rough estimate and ONLY accounts for a figure in the exact same state.

So what's the highest amount ever paid for a MISB Twintist and what's the lowest? For the same figure you're going to have to do a similar grading for loose and complete, loose, packaging variants.

Good luck.
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby Bowspearer » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:22 am

Megs for pres wrote:Im wondering what you think this collection is worth roughly. ALL FIGS ARE LOOSE.
Here we go.....

CLASSICS HENKEI-voyager optimus prime and megatron

GENERATIONS/UNIVERSE-white star scream,grey star scream x2,thunder cracker,sky warp dirge,thrust,ramjet,kup,grimlock,red alert,sun streaker,prowl,iron hide, ratchet,hound with ravage,drift,wheel jack,mirage,warpath,white astrotrain,octane,thunder wing,sky shadow,scrapheap,skull grin,dark mount,blurr,
galvatron,scourge x3. ALSO optimus prime/megatron classics two pack.

R.T.S.- jazz,wreckgar,rodimus prime,cyclonus,turbo tracks,percepter,bumble bee.

W.F.C/F.O.C.-megatron,optimus prime,sound wave,shockwave,bumble bee,cliff jumper.

ENERGON-barricade.


Well tahts my collection. Again all are loose and in perfect condition. So what do you guys think that would be worth? Just wondering if I got a good deal here as most of my older figures came from ebay lol.
Thanks!!


As others have said, it's a tricky one. Unfortunately the classics line have essentially become scalper fodder with many of the figures so I can totally understand your wanting to know if you got a good deal- especially when you're new/returned to the hobby (welcome to the insanity btw ;) :P ).

My advice would honestly be to check ebay, including completed listings.

Ultimately though what it comes down to is, are you happy with the figures and are you glad you own them despite what you paid. Some of us pay $10 for something at one point. Others pay exponential amounts more than that (how many of us wish we had a time machine so we could buy things like Liokaiser sealed at retail ;) ).

Ultimately what matters is that you're happy with your collection and hey, if it turns out it wasn't as good of a bargain as you'd like, there's always the next time right (and trust me - now you're hooked, so there WILL be a next time :P ).
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby njb902 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:43 am

RhA wrote:It's impossible to determine, even if you account for age and whatnot.

The best I can figure is the highest price someone had ever paid for a figure and the lowest. That gives you an extremely rough estimate and ONLY accounts for a figure in the exact same state.

So what's the highest amount ever paid for a MISB Twintist and what's the lowest? For the same figure you're going to have to do a similar grading for loose and complete, loose, packaging variants.

Good luck.


Yeah this is going to be a beast, I still think the older a figure is the easier this will be though. We won't know until we try however.
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Re: Can you guys tell me what you think this is worth?

Postby Sinnertwin » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:18 am

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My guide would be a simple one:
MIB: 80% of new
Loose & Complete: 60% of new
Loose & Incomplete: 30- 40% of new
I would list packaging/toy variants as +2.5% (consideration to the more obscure toy variants)
Aprreciation % for older figures to be determined
AFA: I wouldn't bother, the whole things a scam with no academic credentials reinforcing the service that they offer.
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