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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:38 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Around the size of G1 Defensor's height.
That's about 10 inches, right?

Though, do you mean Minerva or Ginrai being that tall (Ginrai's taller than she is)?
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:45 pm

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Minerva more or less around that height. Ginrai I estimate to be maxed to Defensor's (being an adult compared to teeny booper in the anime)
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:51 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Minerva more or less around that height. Ginrai I estimate to be maxed to Defensor's (being an adult compared to teeny booper in the anime)
So, Ginrai's about a foot tall, then?
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:15 pm

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Less than that, 8 to 9 inches.
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:20 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Less than that, 8 to 9 inches.
but he's taller than Minerva.

Okay, let me clarify. Who is Defensor's height, Minerva or Ginrai?
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:57 pm

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To get this clear:

Reference G1 Defensors' height. He is more or less 10 inches.

More or less based on the reference picture, I'd say Ginrai is around the same maximum height.

Minerva more or less shorter, some extrapolation, Minerva around 8 inches while Ginrai maxed to 10 inches. That simple.

I'm sure with Minerva's range because I own 2 of CMs Gutto Kuro line so I'd give that a rough estimate.

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I'm copy pasting the specs of #46 Noriko of Gunbuster

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

Specifications

Pre-painted Action Figure
Size: Appx. 200mm Tall
Material: PVC, ABS

[Set Contents]
-Main figure
-Optional face parts x5
-Optional hand parts x 12
-Battle costume x1
-Gym uniform x 1
-Headband (blue, yellow) x 1 each
-GuColle stand set

I've placed the size in bold fonts...........around 200 mm, so Minerva should more or less be along this measurement.

So, anyone get a "rise" out of Noriko? >:oP
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby El Duque » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:00 am

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CM's Corp have posted new color images of their upcoming Ginrai figure. The figure will come with an additional head to give the figure his Hi-Q appearance from Marvel comics. Take a look at the new color images below.



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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby Rated X » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:03 am

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How many people plan to buy a male doll ??? :-B
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby Tigertrack » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:08 am

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Rated X wrote:How many people plan to buy a male doll ??? :-B


There are plenty. 12" GI JOE collectors buy lots of 'dolls'.

And there are many fans of character action figures male or female.

This is not my cup of tea, but I do like the Minerva.
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby Nemesis Destron » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:54 am

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I don't know about any dolls but I would like to see eventually a pic of what Takara Kicker would look like next this guy. I mean I know he will be much larger in size but just on looks alone :VEHI:
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:39 pm

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Rated X wrote:How many people plan to buy a male doll ??? :-B


Women would call them "dolls"
Men call them "Action Figures"

For further education I'd suggest you look into S.H. FiguArts, S.I.C., or even D-Arts figures :-B
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby fenrir72 » Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:14 pm

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@ Rated X

>:oP This is getting old with your "doll" fetish again. :roll:

But if you wanna get a "rise" from one and tick off them uptight sexually repressed idiots from Florida try this instead

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

and

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You can actually strip off their costumes.
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby Rated X » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:26 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Rated X wrote:How many people plan to buy a male doll ??? :-B


Women would call them "dolls"
Men call them "Action Figures"

For further education I'd suggest you look into S.H. FiguArts, S.I.C., or even D-Arts figures :-B


No, male collectors call them "action figures" to sugarcoat the truth.

Men call them "dolls".

It may be expensive, based off a boys cartoon, and look great in a man cave, but it's still a doll.

My name aint, Willy Wonka. I dont sugarcoat s**t. ;)
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby Rated X » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:41 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:@ Rated X

>:oP This is getting old with your "doll" fetish again. :roll:

But if you wanna get a "rise" from one and tick off them uptight sexually repressed idiots from Florida try this instead

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

and

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

You can actually strip off their costumes.



Those actually look pretty cool. But as I clearly stated before, the hispanic population in south Florida is very family oriented and protective of their daughters. Having a bunch of erotic young looking dolls in your house will just make people talk s**t about you. I know in some parts of middle America, anything goes from incest to polygamy. But not in Miami.

I am by no means saying you or anyone on this forum do such things. Im just being honest. It's kind of like putting a Jessica Rabbit doll in youre living room and saying youre an cartoon fan. :P
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby fenrir72 » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:42 pm

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Doll

A doll is a toy of a human being, often used as a toy for children. Dolls have traditionally been used in magic and religious rituals throughout the world, and traditional dolls made of materials like clay and wood are found in the Americas, Asia, Africa and Europe. The earliest documented dolls go back to the ancient civilizations of Egypt, Greece and Rome. Dolls being used as toys was documented in Greece around 100AD. They have been made as crude, rudimentary playthings as well as elaborate art. Modern doll manufacturing has its roots in Germany going back to the 15th century. With industrialization and the appearance of new materials like porcelain and plastic, dolls were increasingly mass produced. During the 20th century dolls became increasingly popular as collectibles.

Action figure

An action figure is a posable character figurine, made of plastic or other materials, and often based upon characters from a film, comic book, video game, or television program. These action figures are usually marketed towards boys and male collectors. Redressable action figures are sometimes called action dolls [1] to distinguish them from those with all or most of the clothes molded on.

It is argued that action figures are particularly popular with boys because they represent traditional masculine traits and are closely associated with the public sphere.[2] While most commonly marketed as a children's toy, the action figure has gained wide acceptance as an adult collector item. In such a case, the item may be produced and designed on the assumption it will be bought solely for display.

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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby Rated X » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:04 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Doll

A doll is a toy of a human being, often used as a toy for children. Dolls have traditionally been used in magic and religious rituals throughout the world, and traditional dolls made of materials like clay and wood are found in the Americas, Asia, Africa and Europe. The earliest documented dolls go back to the ancient civilizations of Egypt, Greece and Rome. Dolls being used as toys was documented in Greece around 100AD. They have been made as crude, rudimentary playthings as well as elaborate art. Modern doll manufacturing has its roots in Germany going back to the 15th century. With industrialization and the appearance of new materials like porcelain and plastic, dolls were increasingly mass produced. During the 20th century dolls became increasingly popular as collectibles.

Action figure

An action figure is a posable character figurine, made of plastic or other materials, and often based upon characters from a film, comic book, video game, or television program. These action figures are usually marketed towards boys and male collectors. Redressable action figures are sometimes called action dolls [1] to distinguish them from those with all or most of the clothes molded on.

It is argued that action figures are particularly popular with boys because they represent traditional masculine traits and are closely associated with the public sphere.[2] While most commonly marketed as a children's toy, the action figure has gained wide acceptance as an adult collector item. In such a case, the item may be produced and designed on the assumption it will be bought solely for display.

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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby fenrir72 » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:10 pm

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Read the definition from my previous post ad infinitum.
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:10 pm

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Rated X wrote:How many people plan to buy a male doll ??? :-B
That is such a narrow-minded, sexist, and offensive thing to say. :evil:

People buy toys of the characters they like. And, IMHO, Ginrai was the greatest Autobot leader of all the Autobot leaders in the entire Generation 1 era. That's right, I said it. The greatest Generation 1 Autobot commander was a "Puny Fleshling". :MR-T:

Rated X wrote:No, male collectors call them "action figures" to sugarcoat the truth.

Men call them "dolls".

It may be expensive, based off a boys cartoon, and look great in a man cave, but it's still a doll.

My name aint, Willy Wonka. I dont sugarcoat s**t. ;)
Rated X, what is your problem with human toys?

Do you really think that the term "doll" is appropriate for such human toys as G.I. Joe, Power Rangers, Action Man, DC superheros, Marvel superheroes, LEGO people, He-Man, the Simpsons, Family Guy, etc., even when they're made out of plastic and have no soft, felt material buolt into them?

Why, did you also cry "foul" when Kicker got his own toys in Energon?
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Or how about Ga'Mede, who came with e-Hobby Magnificus?
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Or even Jack, Miko, and Raf?
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In fact, as I have told you time and again, Minerva and Ginrai, in these forms, ARE. NOT! HUMAN!!!! :BOOM:

Honestly, in the words of someone on TFWiki, it's people like you who take your "manly, tough, not-at-all-nerdy, children's-toy-collecting, kid's-cartoon-watching hobby way too seriously."

Rated X wrote:Those actually look pretty cool. But as I clearly stated before, the hispanic population in south Florida is very family oriented and protective of their daughters. Having a bunch of erotic young looking dolls in your house will just make people talk s**t about you. I know in some parts of middle America, anything goes from incest to polygamy. But not in Miami.

I am by no means saying you or anyone on this forum do such things. Im just being honest. It's kind of like putting a Jessica Rabbit doll in youre living room and saying youre an cartoon fan. :P
Ask yourself good and well how any of this applies at all to Ginrai, who is the main topic that we're discussing here.

And even in regards to Minerva, there's nothing erotic about a girl whose body (minus her head) is made up entirely of robot parts and has nothing to reveal on her body.

Why, most fanmade Arcee toys look more erotic than CM Corp's Minerva figure.

Rated X wrote:Here are some posable character figurines that are all geared toward boys and male collectors. So I guess you would consider them "action figures" too ???
And not a single one of those four fall into the same category of toy as this Ginrai figure does. Nice try, but no cigar. :roll:
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby Rated X » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:29 pm

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Yall gotta understand, I may be a serious Transformer collector, but I still grew up hanging out in the hood. You cant take that mentality out of my system. It's a way of life. And you dont have to go to the hood to find sexist mentalities. Just turn on CNN and watch right wing politicians.

As far as my hate for "human" toys, I always saw robots as the "cool" alternitve. 1980's GI joe was cool too because they were small unlike the 60's versions that could go side by side with your sisters Barbies.
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:44 pm

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As far as my hate for "human" toys, I always saw robots as the "cool" alternitve. 1980's GI joe was cool too because they were small unlike the 60's versions that could go side by side with your sisters Barbies.
Well, what's it gonna take for you to realize that not all "action figures" are of "non-human beings"? Because that's a very foolish way to think.
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby Rated X » Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:23 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
Rated X wrote:Yall gotta understand, I may be a serious Transformer collector, but I still grew up hanging out in the hood. You cant take that mentality out of my system. It's a way of life. And you dont have to go to the hood to find sexist mentalities. Just turn on CNN and watch right wing politicians.

As far as my hate for "human" toys, I always saw robots as the "cool" alternitve. 1980's GI joe was cool too because they were small unlike the 60's versions that could go side by side with your sisters Barbies.
Well, what's it gonna take for you to realize that not all "action figures" are of "non-human beings"? Because that's a very foolish way to think.


I never said they were. I just believe any human figure the size of a Barbie or larger is a doll no matter how many points of articulation it has. Call it ignorant, but you gotta draw the line somewhere between the two. From a childs perspective, the bigger it is, the more cuddly it becomes. Just for kicks, if the Ginrai toy was the size of a small infant, would you still classify it as an action figure ???
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:32 am

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Rated X wrote:I never said they were. I just believe any human figure the size of a Barbie or larger is a doll no matter how many points of articulation it has. Call it ignorant, but you gotta draw the line somewhere between the two.
Not if it doesn't have any soft material or removable clothing like a doll usually has.

Rated X wrote:From a childs perspective, the bigger it is, the more cuddly it becomes.
That would hurt with these figures. What with all thier rough edging and sharp, pointy, robotic body builds. ;)

Rated X wrote:Just for kicks, if the Ginrai toy was the size of a small infant, would you still classify it as an action figure ???
As a generalizing term? Yes. But for a more specific term, for something that large, I'd call it a "statue", or a "display piece". An articulated statue, but a statue nonetheless.

And just for kicks, suppose they gave a human Pretender Shell to the G1 Fortress Maximus toy. Not a shell for the head robot like what they did for Grand Maximus, but a shell for the full 2-foot tall citybot. :-B
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby Rated X » Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:48 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
Rated X wrote:I never said they were. I just believe any human figure the size of a Barbie or larger is a doll no matter how many points of articulation it has. Call it ignorant, but you gotta draw the line somewhere between the two.
Not if it doesn't have any soft material or removable clothing like a doll usually has.

Rated X wrote:From a childs perspective, the bigger it is, the more cuddly it becomes.
That would hurt with these figures. What with all thier rough edging and sharp, pointy, robotic body builds. ;)

Rated X wrote:Just for kicks, if the Ginrai toy was the size of a small infant, would you still classify it as an action figure ???
As a generalizing term? Yes. But for a more specific term, for something that large, I'd call it a "statue", or a "display piece". An articulated statue, but a statue nonetheless.

And just for kicks, suppose they gave a human Pretender Shell to the G1 Fortress Maximus toy. Not a shell for the head robot like what they did for Grand Maximus, but a shell for the full 2-foot tall citybot. :-B



Not sure what I would call it. If it was a giant alien shell with claws or a dragon tail, I would probally love it. If it was a shell that looked like Sergant Slaughter, I would be horrorfied. As a kid, the last thing I wanted to play with were humans because I was a human. Didnt seem that exciting to me. I wanted to play with things that are out of this world. (but thats just me)
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:59 am

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Rated X wrote:As a kid, the last thing I wanted to play with were humans because I was a human. Didnt seem that exciting to me. I wanted to play with things that are out of this world. (but thats just me)
Not even superhumans, metahumans, or warriors/soldiers/fighters/etc. (like knights/pirates/cowboys/commandos/ninjas/samurai/Rambo/etc.)?
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Re: CM's Corp HeadMaster Minerva and Ginrai Images

Postby DISCHARGE » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:05 am

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Rated X wrote: As a kid, the last thing I wanted to play with were humans because I was a human. Didnt seem that exciting to me. I wanted to play with things that are out of this world. (but thats just me)


Wow, no G.I. Joe, Centurians, Ghostbusters, Visionaries, Spiral Zone, Inhumanoids,
He-Man, Warlord, C.O.P.S., WWF, Super Powers... All had human figures. You missed out.

Going back to your first comment in this thread, I would imagine most men who collect toys into adulthood could care less about shallow women and their thoughts of their collections. It works for you to be self conscious about what women think belongs in your(?) collection. Calling these dolls is humorous at best.
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