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Shadowman wrote:He was getting a PhD in neuroscience, it's not like he was just some nobody.

Getting a PhD or even having a PhD doesn't make you anybody. You're just another forgettable guy with a larger debt than the average American.

Shadowman wrote:And what's even crazier is that he wasn't just some nutjob who snapped his last snap and went on a rampage, he was getting his PhD in neuroscience, that's not the kind of thing stupid crazy people get to do.

Doctoral programs don't screen for sanity. In fact, mental illness is positively correlated to educational attainment (the more highly educated you are, the more likely you are to have a mental disorder). The general stress of a doctoral program and the sometimes inhumane treatment you get in the doctoral program does nothing to facilitate good mental health, either.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I saw this crap all on the news today, all day long. It's just rediculous. The guy was strapped, how the hell didn't anyone notice a guy with big ass guns walking into the theater!? I went to the midnight show last night, and my theater has officers guarding doors and whatnot, so how did they not notice this guy?

He didn't go in through the front. And even so, most theaters don't have armed guards.

SlyTF1 wrote:It sounds some shit the Joker would pull too. Tear gas, shooting into the crowds, killing people. I think he just wanted to be someone important. He obviously planned this for a long ass time and he succeeded. I bet all he wanted to do was to be noticed, and have his name known throughout the world; and we're just giving him just what he wants. Screw this.

He was getting a PhD in neuroscience, it's not like he was just some nobody. Also, completely ignoring incidents like this isn't going to make them go away. The best thing we can do is let him know what a goddamn monster he became.

Still, I'm very interested in learning why he did this. I don't think it was something as simple as a desire for fame or infamy, or just being a nutjob.

I heard that he was possibly a disgruntled ex employee of the theater. But I want to know exactly why he did it too.

You know, I don't even want to know why he did this. Mass murderers like this idiot should just be given a lethal injection or a public hanging right away. There're allready too much of these shootings happening.

Caelus wrote:

Shadowman wrote:He was getting a PhD in neuroscience, it's not like he was just some nobody.

Getting a PhD or even having a PhD doesn't make you anybody. You're just another forgettable guy with a larger debt than the average American.

Agreed... I have a bachelors in electronics and that makes me no better than anyone else. Just because you have or are working on a high degree like that does not mean squat, he is just as much a nobody as everyone else is.

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Just said on the news that he quit school a couple weeks back then bought guns.

Chaoslock wrote:You know, I don't even want to know why he did this. Mass murderers like this idiot should just be given a lethal injection or a public hanging right away. There're allready too much of these shootings happening.

I don't know what bothers me more - that you're so quick to call for the dismissal of due process, or that you specifically want a public hanging.

Perhaps it would help if I understood your position better; when you say there are "too much of these shootings happening", are you being quasi-ironic (i.e., you're just saying that one is too many), or are you concerned that this is a frequent occurrence?

Caelus wrote:

Chaoslock wrote:You know, I don't even want to know why he did this. Mass murderers like this idiot should just be given a lethal injection or a public hanging right away. There're allready too much of these shootings happening.

I don't know what bothers me more - that you're so quick to call for the dismissal of due process, or that you specifically want a public hanging.

Perhaps it would help if I understood your position better; when you say there are "too much of these shootings happening", are you being quasi-ironic (i.e., you're just saying that one is too many), or are you concerned that this is a frequent occurrence?

Concerned. Last year there was the norwegian shooter, now this (and countless others, for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting). These nuts are getting bolder every time, and there isn't a serious threat for them not to make these mass murders.

Caelus wrote:

Chaoslock wrote:You know, I don't even want to know why he did this. Mass murderers like this idiot should just be given a lethal injection or a public hanging right away. There're allready too much of these shootings happening.

I don't know what bothers me more - that you're so quick to call for the dismissal of due process, or that you specifically want a public hanging.

Perhaps it would help if I understood your position better; when you say there are "too much of these shootings happening", are you being quasi-ironic (i.e., you're just saying that one is too many), or are you concerned that this is a frequent occurrence?

This happens, every time there's s story about a tragedy someone drops in about how we should just go back to the legal system of the dark ages. It's best to ignore them.

And figuring out the "why" is the best way to prevent the "how." Crime prevention gets easier if you can figure out the signs and patterns to look for.

Shadowman wrote:And figuring out the "why" is the best way to prevent the "how." Crime prevention gets easier if you can figure out the signs and patterns to look for.

But if there is nothing to look for, if he's a nobody like everyone seems to think, then it wouldnt be all that possible to predict this happening, now would it? Unless were all id tagged and monitored, in wich case, I would rather die.

BeastProwl wrote:

Shadowman wrote:Unless were all id tagged and monitored, in wich case, I would rather die.

And who knows... That may be next.. I will be with you dying because I refuse to be tagged like an animal.

BeastProwl wrote:But if there is nothing to look for, if he's a nobody like everyone seems to think, then it wouldnt be all that possible to predict this happening, now would it?

If he's an empty shell with the body moving of it's own accord, then yeah, probably. Otherwise, psychology always applies. Pinpoint what made him do this and you get that much closer to figuring out how to prevent future tragedies.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

BeastProwl wrote:Unless were all id tagged and monitored, in wich case, I would rather die.

And who knows... That may be next.. I will be with you dying because I refuse to be tagged like an animal.

Derailing a topic about a tragic shooting to talk about committing suicide over a conspiracy theory? I'm surprised at you two.

Chaoslock wrote:Concerned. Last year there was the norwegian shooter, now this (and countless others, for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting). These nuts are getting bolder every time, and there isn't a serious threat for them not to make these mass murders.

That list you linked to doesn't differentiate random shootings from gang-related shootings, which may be inflating your perception of how serious a problem this is.

I also don't understand, quantitatively, what you mean when you say they're getting bolder every time. It doesn't seem like much has changed in the past ten years.

And IIRC, most shooters of this nature have committed suicide or otherwise planned to die within the course of their attack, so I don't understand what sort of "serious threat" you have in mind to prevent such shootings. Are you advocating tighter gun control laws?

Cyber Bishop wrote:Just said on the news that he quit school a couple weeks back then bought guns.

"Quit school" is often a polite way of saying "forced out of school". Having seen the edge of that precipice myself, and seen others go through that too, I'd say that's a likely cause.