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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:00 pm

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Shadowman wrote:If he's an empty shell with the body moving of it's own accord, then yeah, probably. Otherwise, psychology always applies. Pinpoint what made him do this and you get that much closer to figuring out how to prevent future tragedies.

I guess I should clarify. Yes, you could find the signs and hints towards certain things like this happening. BUT if the person was never actually labeled as having a mental illness, and wasnt observed, then it's hard to pick up on said hints and act on them. You would need to observe such a person, closely, if they dont outwardly show their psychotic side. Those who do show it are usually hospitalized and observed.

A person can be normal all their life, and one day snap, without even realising it. Without an in depth psychological study on that one person (Out of millions of people, might I add) then stuff like this will keep on happening, because its too outright un-predictable, unless you know what is going on with each and every person's brain, each and every hour of each and every day.

Seeing as how that would be impossible without, say, some sort of chip or card or daily scan or something of that nature, it would be impossible to moniter every one single human being on this planet. Their brains, at least.

Thats why crap like this happens. It was unpredictable, because he was a normal person like you and me. Then he went ape-shit and decided he was Batman's worst enemy.

Now, if he has some sort of pre-mentioned disorder or something, then all I just said can be thrown out the window. :P I was just trying to explain my point a bit better.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby Shadowman » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:20 pm

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Shadowman wrote:If he's an empty shell with the body moving of it's own accord, then yeah, probably. Otherwise, psychology always applies. Pinpoint what made him do this and you get that much closer to figuring out how to prevent future tragedies.

I guess I should clarify. Yes, you could find the signs and hints towards certain things like this happening. BUT if the person was never actually labeled as having a mental illness, and wasnt observed, then it's hard to pick up on said hints and act on them. You would need to observe such a person, closely, if they dont outwardly show their psychotic side. Those who do show it are usually hospitalized and observed.


Oh, there are signs. Like, for instance, if your best friend was collecting a bunch of guns and wiring his apartment to explode at the moment of an intrusion, that should probably give you the idea to call the police.

BeastProwl wrote:A person can be normal all their life, and one day snap, without even realising it. Without an in depth psychological study on that one person (Out of millions of people, might I add) then stuff like this will keep on happening, because its too outright un-predictable, unless you know what is going on with each and every person's brain, each and every hour of each and every day.

Seeing as how that would be impossible without, say, some sort of chip or card or daily scan or something of that nature, it would be impossible to moniter every one single human being on this planet. Their brains, at least.


Once again, you jump right on the "conspiracy theory" bandwagon that has nothing to do with what anyone is talking about.

I'm not saying "monitor everyone everywhere forever" and I don't recall ever even implying that. No matter how insane you are, no matter how badly you've snapped, you still have to interact with people before you actually make a move like this. Informing people, ordinary people, about psychological signs that someone is about to do something really awful, can help.

BeastProwl wrote:Thats why crap like this happens. It was unpredictable, because he was a normal person like you and me. Then he went ape-shit and decided he was Batman's worst enemy.


Where did you read that?
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:06 pm

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Ok, valid points.

The point I'm trying to make is, if you try hard enough, or are a total recluse (All of this is hypothetical, BTW) you could pass off as being a normal guy, and not give off any clues. I mean, if he didnt have any friends who were close enough to see him wiring his house/apartment, or maybe they didnt visit him, then I can see that going under the radar.

As for the guns, well, how many did he buy? If he bought quite a few all at once, then I would like to know why he wasnt investigated.

But if he bought them from different people in different places, then no one would really question him, now would they? Or maybe he just tried to pass off as a collector of sorts.

I dont know the details here, I'm just trying to say, keeping tabs on a guy that no one really knows is psychotic would be difficult.

I'm sure SOMEONE picked up on it, and I'm sure once this is all said and done, someone will come forward and say so, or records will come up, or something.

And your right, no one was talking about conspiracies until I brought up Tags, and that was a loose example, at best, of what would need to happen to do something like that.(Monitor people) and wasnt meant to be taken so seriously. I'm sure that wont happen, or already has, A or B, you choose.

And I didnt read it anywere, he was dressed up like the joker, or something, so I just threw that part in there.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby Shadowman » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:33 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:And I didnt read it anywere, he was dressed up like the joker, or something, so I just threw that part in there.


He was wearing a gas mask and body armor, and people pointed out Bane also wears those things in the movie.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:51 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:And I didnt read it anywere, he was dressed up like the joker, or something, so I just threw that part in there.


He was wearing a gas mask and body armor, and people pointed out Bane also wears those things in the movie.


Well, I didnt read about it all that much, I just heard about it on the radio a while ago. They said "a crazed man in costume attacked a colorado movie audience and killed 12 people, during the airing of the latest batman movie."

But yes, a bane costume makes a bit more sense I suppose. The question still remains though. Why a batman movie? Dressed as the villain? I mean, why not do it in a mall or a street (Not saying these would be better) Just sayin, it's an odd choice of when and where.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby njb902 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:52 pm

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I see he was useing an ar-15, for such a small caliber gun they do make some nasty wounds.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby Shadowman » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:54 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:And I didnt read it anywere, he was dressed up like the joker, or something, so I just threw that part in there.


He was wearing a gas mask and body armor, and people pointed out Bane also wears those things in the movie.


Well, I didnt read about it all that much, I just heard about it on the radio a while ago. They said "a crazed man in costume attacked a colorado movie audience and killed 12 people, during the airing of the latest batman movie."

But yes, a bane costume makes a bit more sense I suppose. The question still remains though. Why a batman movie? Dressed as the villain? I mean, why not do it in a mall or a street (Not saying these would be better) Just sayin, it's an odd choice of when and where.


It wasn't a costume. He was wearing an actual gas mask and actual body armor, and an actual riot helmet. He wasn't in costume like going to Comic-Con, he was in costume like going into war.

njb902 wrote:I see he was useing an ar-15, for such a small caliber gun they do make some nasty wounds.


AR-15 can use just about anything from 9mm to .50 cal. Then again, there is no caliber of bullet that doesn't leave a wound.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:35 pm

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huh. Wonder were he got it O.o Seriously, this guy must have known some people.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby Shadowman » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:02 am

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BeastProwl wrote:huh. Wonder were he got it O.o Seriously, this guy must have known some people.


Military surplus store, probably. You can buy just about anything there for preventing someone from killing you. Which, all things considered, is a shame in this case.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby Dead Metal » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:31 am

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The news outlets over here are using this as propaganda against video games again, they do this every time someone shoots someone- every time.

Some awesome gems from news reports on this:

The shooter shot people at random. There is a Batman video game in that also features a gun fight. The police don't know his name yet.


Yea, that's how they reported that, they just dropped the video game line into something completely unrelated. Also, they didn't say shooting but actual gun fight as in Batman returned fire.

According to the police the shooter coloured his hair red and called himself Joker just like the villain from the Batman movies.

another parallel to the Batman movies: the protagonist Bruce Wayne evolves into his alter-ego Batman after his parents where shot dead by a small time criminal after visiting a movie cinema.


Seriously, I'm not lying here, this is just disgusting. Those poor people.
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