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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby njb902 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:52 pm

I see he was useing an ar-15, for such a small caliber gun they do make some nasty wounds.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby Shadowman » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:54 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:And I didnt read it anywere, he was dressed up like the joker, or something, so I just threw that part in there.


He was wearing a gas mask and body armor, and people pointed out Bane also wears those things in the movie.


Well, I didnt read about it all that much, I just heard about it on the radio a while ago. They said "a crazed man in costume attacked a colorado movie audience and killed 12 people, during the airing of the latest batman movie."

But yes, a bane costume makes a bit more sense I suppose. The question still remains though. Why a batman movie? Dressed as the villain? I mean, why not do it in a mall or a street (Not saying these would be better) Just sayin, it's an odd choice of when and where.


It wasn't a costume. He was wearing an actual gas mask and actual body armor, and an actual riot helmet. He wasn't in costume like going to Comic-Con, he was in costume like going into war.

njb902 wrote:I see he was useing an ar-15, for such a small caliber gun they do make some nasty wounds.


AR-15 can use just about anything from 9mm to .50 cal. Then again, there is no caliber of bullet that doesn't leave a wound.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:35 pm

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huh. Wonder were he got it O.o Seriously, this guy must have known some people.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby Shadowman » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:02 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:huh. Wonder were he got it O.o Seriously, this guy must have known some people.


Military surplus store, probably. You can buy just about anything there for preventing someone from killing you. Which, all things considered, is a shame in this case.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby Dead Metal » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:31 pm

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The news outlets over here are using this as propaganda against video games again, they do this every time someone shoots someone- every time.

Some awesome gems from news reports on this:

The shooter shot people at random. There is a Batman video game in that also features a gun fight. The police don't know his name yet.


Yea, that's how they reported that, they just dropped the video game line into something completely unrelated. Also, they didn't say shooting but actual gun fight as in Batman returned fire.

According to the police the shooter coloured his hair red and called himself Joker just like the villain from the Batman movies.

another parallel to the Batman movies: the protagonist Bruce Wayne evolves into his alter-ego Batman after his parents where shot dead by a small time criminal after visiting a movie cinema.


Seriously, I'm not lying here, this is just disgusting. Those poor people.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby njb902 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:48 pm

Shadowman wrote:
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BeastProwl wrote:And I didnt read it anywere, he was dressed up like the joker, or something, so I just threw that part in there.


He was wearing a gas mask and body armor, and people pointed out Bane also wears those things in the movie.


Well, I didnt read about it all that much, I just heard about it on the radio a while ago. They said "a crazed man in costume attacked a colorado movie audience and killed 12 people, during the airing of the latest batman movie."

But yes, a bane costume makes a bit more sense I suppose. The question still remains though. Why a batman movie? Dressed as the villain? I mean, why not do it in a mall or a street (Not saying these would be better) Just sayin, it's an odd choice of when and where.


It wasn't a costume. He was wearing an actual gas mask and actual body armor, and an actual riot helmet. He wasn't in costume like going to Comic-Con, he was in costume like going into war.

njb902 wrote:I see he was useing an ar-15, for such a small caliber gun they do make some nasty wounds.


AR-15 can use just about anything from 9mm to .50 cal. Then again, there is no caliber of bullet that doesn't leave a wound.



most ar-15's are .223(or 5.56mm if you prefer), and the ammunition they use is some of the most damaging in the world(at least as far as assault rifles go). what I can't belive is the media saying it was an ak style weapon, what are they afraid to piss of the army or our military industrial complex....hell maybe the nra. I've been a member of the nra since I was 18, but i never saw the point in a civilian being able to have an assult rifle or smg. spent to much time in Afghanistan to ever think anyone needs the damned things. sorry to sound preachy.

anyways at least they have a good case against this guy. only thing that I question is if he is convicted how will he be sentinced.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby Cyber Bishop » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:01 am

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Another thing that stinks about this is I have been reading comments about people being scared to go to the movies now...
So when they have a big shooting at a diner why are people not scared to go and eat?

Makes no sense to me.. All I know is I will not let fear win! I will go see this movie and all the other movies I intended on seeing.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby Nemesis Destron » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:11 am

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njb902 wrote:anyways at least they have a good case against this guy. only thing that I question is if he is convicted how will he be sentinced.


This is such a horrible tragedy that has struck the state of Colorado again! My sincerest thoughts go out to those lost or wounded in this awful mess. Now because of this disturbed f*ck a simple freedom we enjoy, going to movie theatres will be altered in some way shape or form.

I hope you're right njb902, I hope the prosecution has a ironclad case on this guy who apparently is calling himself the joker...unfortunately. Let's all hope that the evidence and victims alive and dead shows his purest of intentions with no hopes of insanity plea's...the voices made him do it, or the neighbor's dog made him do it, or least of all the Joker made me do it. :VEHI:
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby njb902 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:32 am

Cyber Bishop wrote:Another thing that stinks about this is I have been reading comments about people being scared to go to the movies now...
So when they have a big shooting at a diner why are people not scared to go and eat?

Makes no sense to me.. All I know is I will not let fear win! I will go see this movie and all the other movies I intended on seeing.


I could not agree with ya more CB.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby Shadowman » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:11 pm

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Cyber Bishop wrote:Another thing that stinks about this is I have been reading comments about people being scared to go to the movies now...
So when they have a big shooting at a diner why are people not scared to go and eat?

Makes no sense to me.. All I know is I will not let fear win! I will go see this movie and all the other movies I intended on seeing.


I got tickets for Sunday night. I'm not going to let some nutjob with a gun stop me from enjoying some quality Batman.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby Pontimax 01 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:52 pm

Cyber Bishop wrote:Another thing that stinks about this is I have been reading comments about people being scared to go to the movies now...
So when they have a big shooting at a diner why are people not scared to go and eat?

Makes no sense to me.. All I know is I will not let fear win! I will go see this movie and all the other movies I intended on seeing.



I'll admit that I had been hotly anticipating the release of the movie. But after this act, I'm not going this weekend. I simply feel I won't be able to enjoy this one now as I'll have it in my mind that people were killed just because they were looking for a good time. I'm sure I'll see movies again in theaters, but right now I have a pretty bad taste in my mouth about this. It's sucked any fun for me right out of it. It's just so disgusting to me at the moment. One of the killed was a graduate from my town here in Ohio - Vandalia Butler High School. It's hit right home to my community as a result. It's been a hot topic on the local news stations, interviews with teachers, friends, community leaders.

I however do not blame Hollywood or video games or guns/gun control.

I'm just not in the mood to be entertained right now.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby SlyTF1 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:23 pm

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Cyber Bishop wrote:Another thing that stinks about this is I have been reading comments about people being scared to go to the movies now...
So when they have a big shooting at a diner why are people not scared to go and eat?

Makes no sense to me.. All I know is I will not let fear win! I will go see this movie and all the other movies I intended on seeing.


I got tickets for Sunday night. I'm not going to let some nutjob with a gun stop me from enjoying some quality Batman.


Exactly. I saw it opening night, but I'm probably going to see it again with the rest of my family. It's not good to dwell on things beyond your control or let one moron ruin your life experiences. This could have happened anywhere and just because one effed up lunatic decides to identify himself with a character from this series and go out and kill people people shouldn't be afraid or ashamed to watch the damn movie. Like I said, that's probably what he wants.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:54 pm

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Cyber Bishop wrote:Another thing that stinks about this is I have been reading comments about people being scared to go to the movies now...
So when they have a big shooting at a diner why are people not scared to go and eat?

Makes no sense to me.. All I know is I will not let fear win! I will go see this movie and all the other movies I intended on seeing.



I'll admit that I had been hotly anticipating the release of the movie. But after this act, I'm not going this weekend. I simply feel I won't be able to enjoy this one now as I'll have it in my mind that people were killed just because they were looking for a good time. I'm sure I'll see movies again in theaters, but right now I have a pretty bad taste in my mouth about this. It's sucked any fun for me right out of it. It's just so disgusting to me at the moment. One of the killed was a graduate from my town here in Ohio - Vandalia Butler High School. It's hit right home to my community as a result. It's been a hot topic on the local news stations, interviews with teachers, friends, community leaders.

I however do not blame Hollywood or video games or guns/gun control.

I'm just not in the mood to be entertained right now.


I truly hope you get over this mentality as it just doesn't make sense. As CB asked,..
If tomorrow there is a shooting in a dinner, are you gonna stop going out to eat?
If a drunk driver strikes and kills several people on the highway, are you gonna stop driving for month?

So much bad in this world happens on a daily basis that if you let all of it affect you to a point were it prevents you from going about your daily life, you might has well just live in a basement with the lights shut off.

I understand that this story hits close to home for you, but not seeing a movie isn't going to help the case any. This guy can claim all he want that he was mimicking the Joker, but in the end it comes down to that he was just a very disturbed individual. NO one is to blame but him.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby Burn » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:50 am

Cyber Bishop wrote:Another thing that stinks about this is I have been reading comments about people being scared to go to the movies now...
So when they have a big shooting at a diner why are people not scared to go and eat?

Makes no sense to me.. All I know is I will not let fear win! I will go see this movie and all the other movies I intended on seeing.


If people are going to have that attitude, then they should probably not leave the house.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby Shadowman » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:10 am

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You know, the whole "Joker" thing is kind of weird to me. For starters, it was said by the New York City Police Commissioner, is there any reason the NYPD would even be involved in a case in Colorado?
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby Wigglez » Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:05 am

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A very tragic event. To be honest, this makes me disgusted in the human-kind. And I really want to know why he did it also, but he's just probably going to say some s*** like "some men just want to watch the world burn" or "you can't spell slaughter without laughter". You know, just to go with his "Joker" identity. But to go long with this, we do need tighter gun regulations. You don't need a semi-auto to go hunting with. And I'm pretty sure he could've done this with a regular hunting rifle, but there would've been less deaths and injuries probably.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby MGrotusque » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:23 am

Wigglez wrote: To be honest, this makes me disgusted in the human-kind.


This is the definition of a Misanthropist. That may very well be the motivation......if not at least the catalyst.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

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This is the definition of a Misanthropist. That is the motivation......at least the catalyst.

Yeah, but it doesn't mean I'm just going to go and shoot people at random. What makes me sick is how people can just do this.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

Postby MGrotusque » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:41 am

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Wigglez wrote: To be honest, this makes me disgusted in the human-kind.


This is the definition of a Misanthropist. That is the motivation......at least the catalyst.

Yeah, but it doesn't mean I'm just going to go and shoot people at random. What makes me sick is how people can just do this.


That may be true to you, and irrational as the concept is, that doesn't negate the fact that the mind set exists and is rational to some.
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Re: Colorado Batman movie shootings

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Wigglez wrote:A very But to go long with this, we do need tighter gun regulations. You don't need a semi-auto to go hunting with. And I'm pretty sure he could've done this with a regular hunting rifle, but there would've been less deaths and injuries probably.


While I agree we don't need semi auto's to hunt with, your reasoning that there would have been less deaths and injuries with a hunting rifle or other firearms is provably untrue. Most of the damage done at the Columbine high school shooting was done with single fire shot guns.
The Virgina Tech shooting (second biggest in U.S. history, and twice the victims than the Colorado shooting) was done with hand guns only.

Stricter gun laws aren't going to prevent these from happening. There are still more gang related shootings every year than there are massacre shootings or accidents. And 90% of the weapons in gang and other criminal shootings are bought illegally.

This guy was off his rocker for sure. Whatever his "reasoning" might be is pretty much irrlevelent as i don't see any reason he could give that would make any sence anyhow.
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