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Rated X wrote:It doesnt get any more G1 cartoon than this.

I hated the G1 head

Rated X wrote:The current Hercules head sucks.

Not to me. It matches the asthetics perfectly.

Rated X wrote:Now you get a chance to own a head that is cartoon accurate. Whats the problem ???

The fact that it's cartoon accurate is the problem.

Rated X wrote:And if it is too small, whats wrong with getting a little head ???

i like hercs head just the way it is. think i will pass on this head.

Rated X wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I WAS all over this until I noticed it site way too far back in their promo photo. Screw that. I want a toon accurate visored head, but I want it to be as perfect as possible. Getting that, but having it sit at the back of "Hook" is just trading one problem for another. So, until I see a review showing me that this can sit on "Hook's" ball joint AND work, I won't pick it up.

The picture looks decieving, but the narrative clearly states "can be fully hidden inside of Dr. Crank's body". You cant fit the new head without removing the old one right ? So obviously the new head attaches to Dr. Crank. We can only speculate if they included new joint system to attach it. But I cant see why they would waste money to create a new joint system when they could just KO the old one or just give us the head which fits the current ball joint. I bet if they created a new joint system the price would be $40. So Im guessing this photo is an early test shot without the head being attached. Just my take on it.

That's what they say, but not what they show. With these guys I'll wait until I actually see this in action. I want a G1 toon head, but I want one that goes in the right place.

I also have to admit that their take on Devy's head takes a bit of getting used to. Not the G1 toon look, but more like the look of the chin and the flat surfaces. I'd actually be extatic if someone took the existing head and merely repainted it so it's "bald" (like the G1 toon), take away the center forehead crest, and gave it a visor, all with clear plastic in the right places.

With their stuff, I REALLY want to see the whole finished deal before taking the plunge. They don't exactly give you a good idea of context.

I was actually hoping Renderform would have taken on Devy's head. That guy does great work.

Counterpunch wrote:Looks mad-shitty on Herc.

Ageed. Easy pass.

The more I look at it, the more I believe this is just an inflated version of their G1 Dev head, with the same amount of detail. It also fits this body about as good as Animated Arcee fits in with g1 toys.

I would wait for someone else to announce a cooler head, one that looks like the toon, just more updated like the rest of Herc.

LOL you dudes trip me out.

Tell you what, Ill take one for the team and post pics up on a thread. Hopefully all this talk of the head being "too far back" is just over-reacting over a bad test shot.

And I love the caroon accurate head. It makes Devi look big, strong, and dumb which is what I want. The TFC head makes him look too smart. Almost like if he is going to say more than 3 words in one sentence. No thanks...

Mkall wrote:

Rated X wrote:It doesnt get any more G1 cartoon than this.

I hated the G1 head

Rated X wrote:The current Hercules head sucks.

Not to me. It matches the asthetics perfectly.

Rated X wrote:Now you get a chance to own a head that is cartoon accurate. Whats the problem ???

The fact that it's cartoon accurate is the problem.

Rated X wrote:And if it is too small, whats wrong with getting a little head ???

I'll second ALL of that.

Rated X wrote:This is actually more like a 3rd party "fix" than an upgrade. TFC went all out with a fairly cartoon accurate Neo Devastator.

It's not like the rest of him is taken straight out of the cartoon: digger and crane kibble, green mixing drum and the fact Exgraver's and Neck Breaker's treads become the forearms are all contrary to the animation. But people get hung up on the lack of visor even though he was without it half the time anyway. THAT makes no sense.

Rated X wrote:This new head gives the fans what we really wanted to begin with.

Apparently not all of us....

Gotta disagree with all of you guys. I havent even built Hercules yet (waiting for video tutorial on Heavy Labor hip installation) and Im ready for a cartoon accurate head !!!

I guess if you guys like your Devi looking all smart and educated, the TFC head is for you. I like that "big dumb gorilla" look the cartoon head employs. Devastator is a robot of few words.

Hey, I want a toon accurate head too, but ... I want to spend my money on QUALITY. I'm not ready to buy from Crazy Devy on faith this time. Especially not with such a glaringly obvuious flag in their own promo picture.

Rated X wrote:This is actually more like a 3rd party "fix" than an upgrade. TFC went all out with a fairly cartoon accurate Neo Devastator. But some rocket scientist at TFC decided to give him a more toy accurate head. This new head gives the fans what we really wanted to begin with. Not some cheap clip on visor. Hopefully more will follow such as:

KO purple Mixmaster barrel

Toy accurate guns for the individual bots (cartoon accurate guns would all look the same)

Toy accurate Devastator gun with the bananna clip (last on my list, but would be cool)

You know, your statement actually is a real good display of the current sad state of affairs that is the 3rd party market and the collector's thought process.

When pics of Herc were released, I was disappointed with the garbage head he came with along with some of the color flaws, such as his not purple mixing barrel and the general over-use of black. With the hefty price tag, I decided that the flaws, while admittedly minor, were a deal breaker. Because for 600 bucks, the figure should be perfect. That price tag represents a small investment.

But you, by your own words, and I'm sure many, many others, happily gave away $600 of your money for a figure that, while awesome, you weren't 100% satisfied with. Simply because you are a "collector" and this figure was a "must-have." Thusly, by spending the money, you gave a pass to the company for their outlandish pricing and poor QC process. And by spending even more money with additional 3rd party "fixes", you give a pass for the first company for not getting it quite right the first time and opening the door for more 3rd party profit with the upgrades.

Now, I'm not telling anybody how to spend their money. If you've got the cash to spend then so be it. I've made my choices on 3rd party products and I have no regrets. My point is that the 3rd party market is so broken right now and the collectors are making it worse. Because they are feeding into the overgrown monster.

Collectors justify the existence of 3rd party by saying that it gives collectors what they want, that they know they won't get from Has/Tak. Fine. And I say that the 3rd parties are screwing you and collectors are happily bending over for it.

I mean c'mon man! You just spent 600 bucks on a figure that needed "fixes" and your happily getting back in line to dump even more money into that same figure. Wake up! You got screwed over. Some of the collectors are just as out of control as the 3rd party to makers.